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Hotchkis family

Legg inn av starbuck95@hotmail.com » 01 jan 2005 20:20:05

My crap home computer won't let me respond to this thread through
Google (for some reason).
However, I remembered that Gary Boyd Roberts had something to say about
the Hotchkisses of
Connecticut in one of his columns on the NEHGS website. After
considerable searching, I found
it-- column #49 of his "Genealogical Thoughts," in which he states, "I
have since rejected the
proposed descents for the Carys of New England, ... Samuel Hotchkiss of
Conn., ... [and others]."

Was the proposed royal descent the one you mention through Constantine
and Lucy?


Please check out Thomas Nevett on my website at:
http://home.comcast.net/~rexjhotchkiss/
His daughter Margaret Nevett married John Hotchkiss of Whitechurch.
For
more fun check out the Benyon line.

Steven Perkins wrote:
John Insly Coddington wrote an article in the Connecticut
Nutmegger
where he stated that the Hotchkiss family of New Haven Colony was
descended from John Hotchkiss and Margaret Nevett of Dodington,
Whitchurch Parish, Shropshire, England. He also said that the family
was
related to the Barons Cotton. I have tried to find the connection by
looking at the references in the article, but I have been unable to
do so.
Has anyone investigated this connection of either the Hotchkiss or
Nevett
families to the Barons Cotton? Does anyone know if the Coddington
paper

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: Hotchkis[s] family

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 02 jan 2005 02:23:49

In article <1104607205.808520.119150@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"starbuck95@hotmail.com" <starbuck95@hotmail.com> wrote:

However, I remembered that Gary Boyd Roberts had something to say about
the Hotchkisses of Connecticut in one of his columns on the
NEHGS website. After considerable searching, I found
it-- column #49 of his "Genealogical Thoughts," in which he states, "I
have since rejected the proposed descents for the Carys of New England,
... Samuel Hotchkiss of Conn., ... [and others]."

My children descend from Samuel Hotchkiss of Connecticut, as did Emma
Hale, number-one wife of ur-Mormon Joseph Smith, hence the Connecticut
Hotchkiss ancestry is all over the net (e.g., hundreds of hits for
Samuel on WorldConnect).

Now, I have not seen the Coddington piece referred to by Steven Perkins,
but is Samuel Hotchkiss's parentage really proved (and there is
uncertainty in the earlier alleged connection to a Cotton family), or is
there in fact only conjecture about his parentage in the first place?
Many of the entries I find for him list no parentage, and I can't seem
to find a complete citation to the Coddington piece on his ancestry
online.

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

Steven C. Perkins

Re: Hotchkis[s] family

Legg inn av Steven C. Perkins » 02 jan 2005 07:21:02

Nathaniel and Rex:

The Hotchkis article is "The Hotchkis Family (unedited transcript of a
lecture)", Connecticut Nutmegger, vol 12, pp218-221 (1979). Coddington's
MSS at NEHGS show that he worked on the family over a number of years. I
believe the wills he found and had abstracted do prove Samuel Hotchkis'
parentcy and the connection to the Cotton family (later Cotton of
Cumbermere). What is not proven, and was doubted by Coddington, is the
alleged connection between Allan Hotchkis, with a descent from the Cotton
and Mainwaring families, and the father of Samuel Hotchkis. Coddington
believed there had to be a missing generation between them. Otherwise,
the seems to have been a large time between them, not impossible, but
improbable and it bothered Coddington.

I had hoped to be able to give a detailed account of both Cotton
descents, but I lost the notes from examining the Coddington MSS in Feb
due to a burst water pipe which flooded my office and destroyed many of
my files. It will now have to await another trip to NEHGS to view the
MSS again.

What is also not proven is the connection between the Thomas Constantine
of Doddington and the Constantine family connected to the Lucy family.
In researching the link through a William Constantine, I have found that
there are 4 contemporary William Constantines with or mentioned in wills,
and I am trying to determine, which, if any of them, is the one
mentioned in relation to the Lucy family.

I do believe the Hotchkis to Cotton connection is sound. Please see
several posts in the archives under Cotton, Hotchkis and Constantine.

Regards,

Steven C. Perkins





On 2 Jan 2005 at 1:23, Nathaniel Taylor wrote:

Date forwarded: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:26:38 -0700
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From: Nathaniel Taylor <nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Hotchkis[s] family
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In article <1104607205.808520.119150@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"starbuck95@hotmail.com" <starbuck95@hotmail.com> wrote:

However, I remembered that Gary Boyd Roberts had something to say about
the Hotchkisses of Connecticut in one of his columns on the NEHGS
website. After considerable searching, I found it-- column #49 of his
"Genealogical Thoughts," in which he states, "I have since rejected the
proposed descents for the Carys of New England, ... Samuel Hotchkiss of
Conn., ... [and others]."

My children descend from Samuel Hotchkiss of Connecticut, as did Emma
Hale, number-one wife of ur-Mormon Joseph Smith, hence the Connecticut
Hotchkiss ancestry is all over the net (e.g., hundreds of hits for Samuel
on WorldConnect).

Now, I have not seen the Coddington piece referred to by Steven Perkins,
but is Samuel Hotchkiss's parentage really proved (and there is
uncertainty in the earlier alleged connection to a Cotton family), or is
there in fact only conjecture about his parentage in the first place?
Many of the entries I find for him list no parentage, and I can't seem to
find a complete citation to the Coddington piece on his ancestry online.

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

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