Can anyone add biographical details to :
Nest of South Wales, daughter of Rhys ap Tewdr, Prince of Deheubarth and his wife Gwladus. Nest married Gerald of Windsor but her amorous exploits rendered her notorious and she bore a son to King Henry I of England.
Any additional information is most welcome.
Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
Nest of South Wales
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Theresa Opel
Re: Nest of South Wales
Hi Leo, I was looking through the Welsh Biographies on line through the
National Library of Wales and found this information:
NEST (fl. 1120), a princess of Deheubarth, daughter of Rhys ap Tewdwr
(q.v.) by Gwladus, daughter of Rhiwallon ap Cynfyn. About 1100 she m. Gerald
of Pembroke; there were at least three sons of the union-William, Maurice,
and David Fitz-Gerald (qq.v.)-and a daughter, Angharad, wife of William of
Manorbier and mother of Giraldus Cambrensis (q.v.). Clearly a woman of great
charm and beauty, she became the mistress of many lovers. Her romantic
abduction (almost in her husband's presence) by her kinsman, Owain ap
Cadwgan (q.v.), in 1109, has earned her notoriety as the 'Helen of Wales.'
Her numerous offspring included Robert Fitz-Stephen (q.v.) and Henry 'filius
regis'-her child by king Henry I. The date of her death is unknown, but she
lived until well after 1136. There were others of the same name less famous
than the subject of this notice: Nest, daughter of Gruffudd ap Llywelyn
(q.v.), Nest, the wife of Bernard Newmarch, and Nest, daughter of Gruffydd
ap Rhys (q.v.).
Hist. W.; D.N.B.; Gir. Camb..
T.J.P.
Hope this helps you out.
Best Regards,
Theresa
""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
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National Library of Wales and found this information:
NEST (fl. 1120), a princess of Deheubarth, daughter of Rhys ap Tewdwr
(q.v.) by Gwladus, daughter of Rhiwallon ap Cynfyn. About 1100 she m. Gerald
of Pembroke; there were at least three sons of the union-William, Maurice,
and David Fitz-Gerald (qq.v.)-and a daughter, Angharad, wife of William of
Manorbier and mother of Giraldus Cambrensis (q.v.). Clearly a woman of great
charm and beauty, she became the mistress of many lovers. Her romantic
abduction (almost in her husband's presence) by her kinsman, Owain ap
Cadwgan (q.v.), in 1109, has earned her notoriety as the 'Helen of Wales.'
Her numerous offspring included Robert Fitz-Stephen (q.v.) and Henry 'filius
regis'-her child by king Henry I. The date of her death is unknown, but she
lived until well after 1136. There were others of the same name less famous
than the subject of this notice: Nest, daughter of Gruffudd ap Llywelyn
(q.v.), Nest, the wife of Bernard Newmarch, and Nest, daughter of Gruffydd
ap Rhys (q.v.).
Hist. W.; D.N.B.; Gir. Camb..
T.J.P.
Hope this helps you out.
Best Regards,
Theresa
""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
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Can anyone add biographical details to :
Nest of South Wales, daughter of Rhys ap Tewdr, Prince of Deheubarth and
his wife Gwladus. Nest married Gerald of Windsor but her amorous exploits
rendered her notorious and she bore a son to King Henry I of England.
Any additional information is most welcome.
Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
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Theresa Opel
Re: Nest of South Wales
Hi Leo, Here is another bit of information I found on Nest, sister of the
Lord Rhys. Hope it helps. It also came from the Welsh Biographies Online.
IFOR BACH (fl. 1158)-(IFOR MEURIG in the Bruts, IFOR AP CADIFOR in 16th and
17th cent. genealogies); lord of Senghenydd, a 'dependant barony' of the
lordship of Glamorgan and the hilly district bounded by Brecknock on the
north, Cefn Onn ridge on the south, the river Taff on the west and the river
Rhymney on the east. In 1158 he attacked and slew Morgan ab Owain (see under
Morgan ap Hywel) of Gwynllwg and Caerleon, together with 'the best poet,'
Gwrgant ap Rhys. He is noteworthy also for his attack on Cardiff castle the
same year, when at dead of night he removed William, earl of Gloucester,
Hawise his wife, and Robert their son to his wooded fastnesses, refusing to
release them until William had restored the lands filched from him and had
bestowed upon him additional territory by way of compensation. He m. Nest,
sister says 'Brut y Saeson,' to the 'lord' Rhys. He was succeeded (before
1170) by his son Gruffydd. Gir. Camb., Opera, vi, 63; 'Brut y Tywysogion,'
sub anno 1157; 'Brut y Saeson,' sub anno 1175; Myv. Arch., 682; 'Annales
Margam,' sub anno 1158; Clark, Cartae, i, 159; Hist. W., 507-8; E. L.
Chappell, Old Whitchurch, 9, 17; Rice Merricke (ed. Corbett), 54-5, 107;
Dwnn, i, 245; Ford MSS. (Cardiff MS. 5, 6) 270, 491; Tonn MS. (Cardiff MS.
2, 136), 175, 216; Wilkins MSS. (Cardiff MS. 3, 464) 103.
Best Regards,
Theresa
""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
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Lord Rhys. Hope it helps. It also came from the Welsh Biographies Online.
IFOR BACH (fl. 1158)-(IFOR MEURIG in the Bruts, IFOR AP CADIFOR in 16th and
17th cent. genealogies); lord of Senghenydd, a 'dependant barony' of the
lordship of Glamorgan and the hilly district bounded by Brecknock on the
north, Cefn Onn ridge on the south, the river Taff on the west and the river
Rhymney on the east. In 1158 he attacked and slew Morgan ab Owain (see under
Morgan ap Hywel) of Gwynllwg and Caerleon, together with 'the best poet,'
Gwrgant ap Rhys. He is noteworthy also for his attack on Cardiff castle the
same year, when at dead of night he removed William, earl of Gloucester,
Hawise his wife, and Robert their son to his wooded fastnesses, refusing to
release them until William had restored the lands filched from him and had
bestowed upon him additional territory by way of compensation. He m. Nest,
sister says 'Brut y Saeson,' to the 'lord' Rhys. He was succeeded (before
1170) by his son Gruffydd. Gir. Camb., Opera, vi, 63; 'Brut y Tywysogion,'
sub anno 1157; 'Brut y Saeson,' sub anno 1175; Myv. Arch., 682; 'Annales
Margam,' sub anno 1158; Clark, Cartae, i, 159; Hist. W., 507-8; E. L.
Chappell, Old Whitchurch, 9, 17; Rice Merricke (ed. Corbett), 54-5, 107;
Dwnn, i, 245; Ford MSS. (Cardiff MS. 5, 6) 270, 491; Tonn MS. (Cardiff MS.
2, 136), 175, 216; Wilkins MSS. (Cardiff MS. 3, 464) 103.
Best Regards,
Theresa
""Leo van de Pas"" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
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Can anyone add biographical details to :
Nest of South Wales, daughter of Rhys ap Tewdr, Prince of Deheubarth and
his wife Gwladus. Nest married Gerald of Windsor but her amorous exploits
rendered her notorious and she bore a son to King Henry I of England.
Any additional information is most welcome.
Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia