Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley

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Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley

Legg inn av Gjest » 10 des 2004 19:01:01

Friday, 10 December, 2004


Hello All,

In a related thread yesterday, I noted the marriage of
Margaret Bosvile, daughter of Thomas Bosvile 'of Edderthorpe',
to William Symmes 'senior' of Barnsley (d. bef 7 Oct 1483) as
documented by William Brown [1]. The identification of Thomas
Bosvile was not detailed, but it appeared likely that he was of
or closely related to the Ardesley (or Gunthwaite) family.

Two pieces of evidence provide the linkage of Edderthorpe to
the Bosviles of Ardsley, and further the close connection of
Richard Symmes of Barnsley to Thomas Bosvile of Ardsley and his
wife, Isabel or Isabella Hastings, his neighbors in Silkstone
parish. First is the following settlement in 1462 re: certain
lands including Edderthorpe, mentioning William Boswell (Bosvile)
of Ardsley (father of Thomas) and John Boswell(Bosvile), rector
of Darfield (brother of Thomas). This represents the settlement
of lands as dower for Isabel Cresacre, 2nd wife of John Bosvile
of Ardsley (d. 1441) who m. 2ndly Henry Langton, Esq. before
1448:


Sheffield Archives: Title Deeds
Deeds relating to Cawthorne : SY293/Z/4/1
Settlement

Creation dates: 20 August 1462

By William Norton of Bylburgh (Bilbrough, W.Yk.) to Nicholas
Wortlay, Robert Nevill, John Wodrove, Thomas Everingam, esqs.,
and John Nevill of Leversege (Liversedge, W.Yk.) of his manor of
Newhall (p. Darfield) with all his lands etc in Derfeld
(Darfield), Wombuelhill (Wombwell), Edyrthorp (Edderthorpe),
Mylnhous (Millhouses) and Midylwood (Middlewood) formerly the
property of John Bosewell father of William Bosewell, with a
piece of land called Elyntreflatt at Ederslay (Ardsley), for the
lives of Henry Langton and Isabella his wife, and after their
deaths, the manor etc. to go to Edward fitz William, Robert
Roclyff, John Dawnay and John Bosewell, clerk, in fee simple.

Witnesses; John Sotell, esq., Adamer Burdhed, Thomas Ann, Richard
Syms, William Taillor, etc.


The second document is for the grant of dower to Isabella
Bosvile (nee Hastings), 'late wife of Thomas Bosevile, knight'
in 1490. Note that the document above was witnessed by Richard
Symmes of Barnesley: in the 1490 document below, Richard Symmes
was one of the feoffees.


Sheffield Archives: Spencer Stanhope Muniments [SpSt/1 - SpSt/172]
Deeds concerning Cannon Hall : SpSt/140/1
Grant of dower

Creation dates: 10 Jun 1490

Isabella Bosevile, widow, late wife of Thomas Bosevile, knight,
dec'd., of the first part.

Richard Keresford, Richard Symmes of Barnesley and John Slakk,
feoffees of Thomas Bosevile of all his lands and tenements
in Yorkshire, of the second part.

With the consent of the kinsfolk of John Bosevile, son and heir
of John Bosevile, son and heir of Thomas Bosevile, the feoffees
grant to Isabella, as her dower, 1 messuage in Calthorn, now
called Canonhall, and all lands and other appurtenances, in the
tenure of John Cowden; 2 cottages in Calthorn; a tenement built
on the Cliffhyll, in the tenure of Elizabeth Burnley, widow;
annual rent of 3/10, from a messuage in Ardesley, called
Dawrodes als Wodehede. For life.


Thomas Bosevile, called 'of Edderthorpe' by W. Brown as
previously discussed, was in fact better known as Thomas Bosevile
of Ardsley (d. before 10 Jun 1490). Richard Symmes of Barnsley,
as father in law of Isabel (Hastings) Bosevile's daughter
Margaret and grandfather of their mutual grandchildren William,
Alice, Isabel and Joan, was a natural choice as a feoffee; so to
was Richard Keresford, whose son was evidently the John
Keresford who was married to Isabel's daughter Elizabeth Bosvile.

The family of Thomas Bosvile of Ardsley and his wife Isabel
Hastings is sketched as part of a pedigree of Bosvile in Alice
MacDonald's work on the family [2]. As the followup detailed
pedigree will show, their issue included John Bosvile of
Ardsley, son and heir; Muriel, wife of Sir John Burton of
Kinsley; Elizabeth, wife of John Keresforth (or Keresford);
Hugh Bosvile, rector of Darfield; and other. Ms. MacDonald
did not identify a daughter Margaret; however, we can thank
Mr. Brown for having done so.

I hope the above and the followup pedigree post will be
of interest.

Cheers,

John *




NOTES

[1] W. Brown, Yorkshire Deeds (Yorks. Arch. Soc.) II:20-22

[2] Alice Edith Middleton MacDonald, The Fortunes of a Family:
Bosville of New Hall, Gunthwaite and Thorpe through Nine
Centuries (Edinburgh: privately printed by T. and A.
Constable, 1927), pp. 228-9.

Gjest

Re: Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley

Legg inn av Gjest » 10 des 2004 19:31:01

Friday, 10 December, 2004



Hello All,

Following is the detailed pedigree as promised. Note that
this traces the Bosvile-Symmes descent only from John Hastings,
Esq. of Elsing and Gressenhall and his wife Anne Morley, whose
descents from Edward I of England (multiple descents for John
Hastings) have been discussed in detail before.

I have traced the descent to the emigrant William Farrar
of Amwell and Hoddesdon, Herts. and of Virginia (d. ca. 1637),
who is known to descend from John Hastings and Anne Morley
through his mother Cecily Kelke. Hopefully other descents
through the Bosvile and Symmes families will be developed.

Cheers,

John

____________________________


1 John Hastings[1]
----------------------------------------
Birth: bef 6 Jan 1411[2]
Death: 9 Apr 1477, Elsing, Norfolk[3],[2]
Burial: Gressenhall Church, Norfolk[2]
Occ: Lord Hastings
Father: Edward Hastings (<1382-1437)
Mother: Muriel Dinham

esquire, of Gressenhall, Elsing, East Lexham and Weasenham,
Norfok, Fenwick, Norton and Moseley, co. York, and Monewden,
Suffolk *

'John Hastynges of Fenwyke nigh Ardesley. = Anne doughter to
William Lord Morley.' -[HSP 16:154-156, Vis. of Yorkshire:
pedigree of Hastynges[1]]

9th Lord Hastings[2]

dispensation for his marriage to Anne Morley approved - see Papal
mandate dated 21 Apr 1434:
' Papal mandate to the Bishop of Norwich to grant a dispensation
for the marriage of John Hastinges and Anne Morley, although
they were related in the 3rd-4th degree of consanguinity: xi
kal. Maii 4 Eugenius IV [21 Apr. 1434].' [ CP Vol. VI
(Hastings), p. 360, note f[2]]

Deed of Release, 28 Feb 13 Hen VI [ 1434/5 ]:
' John son of Edward Lord of Hastyngg' and de Stotvyle, Kt
to Sir Robert Clifton, Kt and Robert Edymon, clerk.
Manors of Gressenhale and Estlexham and property in other
counties.' - PRO, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of
Gressenhall [ MR 90 241 x 3 ], [ MR 91 241 x 3 ][4]

Grantor of a charter dated 5 Apr 16 Edw IV [1476]:
' John Hastyngges of Elsyng, Esq son and heir of Lord Edward
Hastyngges Kt & Mirielle his wife daughter of Sir John Denham,
Kt. to John Heydon, Henry Suthyll, Richard Southwell, Henry
Heydon, and Henry Spelman.
Capital messuage called Lady Morley Place in parish of St Peter
Mamcroft, Norwich next the church of Blessed Mary in the Fields
and a water mill called le Gryn' alias Grynmylle in Northelmeham
lands and tenements belonging in the same and Byllyngford. '
- PRO, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of
Gressenhall [ MR 268 242 x 3 ][4]

Constable of castle and gaol of Norwich, June 11, 1441; Sheriff of
Norfolk, 1474-1475[2]

* land holdings per his Inquisition post mortem, 20 Sept - 4 Oct
1477 (CP, Hastings)[2]

Will of John Hastynges of Elsyng, squyer. 8 Apr. 1477 - PRO,
Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall [ MR 320
242 x 5 ][4]

Spouse: Anne Morley
Death: 1471[2]
Father: Thomas Morley, Lord Morley (<1393-1435)
Mother: Isabel de la Pole (-1466)
Marr: ca 21 Apr 1434[2]

Children: Elizabeth
Sir Hugh Hastings of Elsing and Gressenhall(-1488)
Robert
Edmund
John
Charles
Muriel
Isabel (->1490)


1.1 Isabel Hastings
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 10 Jun 1490[4]


' Isabel (wife of Thomas Bosvile)', daughter of John Hastings and
Anne Morley [Richardson p. 290[4]]

grant of dower, 10 Jun 1490:
' Isabella Bosevile, widow, late wife of Thomas Bosevile,
knight, dec'd., of the first part.
Richard Keresford, Richard Symmes of Barnesley and John
Slakk, feoffees of Thomas Bosevile of all his lands and
tenements in Yorkshire, of the second part.
With the consent of the kinsfolk of John Bosevile, son and heir of
John Bosevile, son and heir of Thomas Bosevile, the feoffees
grant to Isabella, as her dower, 1 messuage in Calthorn, now
called Canonhall, and all lands and other appurtenances, in the
tenure of John Cowden; 2 cottages in Calthorn; a tenement built
on the Cliffhyll, in the tenure of Elizabeth Burnley, widow;
annual rent of 3/10, from a messuage in Ardesley, called Dawrodes
als Wodehede.
For life. ' A2A, Sheffield Archives: Spencer Stanhope
Muniments [SpSt/1 - SpSt/172], Deeds concerning Cannon Hall :
SpSt/140/1[4]

Spouse: Thomas Bosvile of Ardsley and Newhall, co. Yorks.
Death: bef 10 Jun 1490[4]
Father: William Bosvile (ca1401-)
Mother: Matilda FitzWilliam

Children: Margaret
John Bosvile of Ardsley and Newhall, co. Yorks.
Hugh Bosvile, rector of Darfield
Richard
James
Muriel, m. Sir John Burton of Kinsley
Elizabeth, m. John Keresforth
Isabel
NN, m. Ralph de la Hagh
NN, m. NN Dodsworth


1.1.1 Margaret Bosvile
----------------------------------------

' Margaret, daughter and coheiress of Thomas Bosvile of
Edderthorpe ' [Yorks. Deeds II:20[5]]
Note: she was not a coheiress; her father Thomas Bosvile was
lord of Edderthorpe, but was better known as Thomas Bosvile
of Ardsley.

cf. Yorks. Deeds II:20-22[5]

Spouse: William Symmes
Death: bef 7 Oct 1483, d.v.p.[5]
Father: Richard Symmes of Barnsley, co. Yorks.

Children: William, d.s.p. 1501
Alice
Isabel, m. John Saint Paul
Joan, m. Robert Burton


1.1.1.1 William Symmes
----------------------------------------

1.1.1.2 Alice Symmes
----------------------------------------

' Alice wife of Gerrard Lacy, esq.', one of the coheirs of William
Symmes, who
' paid 15s. heriot for the Hipperholme property, as his heirs,
William being described as brother of Alice and Isabel, and uncle
of Joan. (Wakefield Court Roll.) ' [Yorks. Deeds II:21[5]]

cf. Holmes pp. 79-80 (called Joan in error, possibly confused with
her sister)[6]

Spouse: Gerard Lacy of Brearley Hall, co. Yorks.
Death: aft 2 Jul 1503[7]
Father: Gilbert Lacy (-<1492)
Mother: Johanna Soothill (->1492)

Children: Hugh (-<1573)
Dunstan
William
Edward
Richard


1.1.1.2.1 Hugh Lacy[8]
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 31 Jul 1573[6]
Occ: lord of Midgely and Brearley Hall

Esq., of Brearley Hall, Halifax, co. York. [6]
beneficiary of 'a dagger with a gilt haft' in will of uncle
Christopher Lacy, dated 13 Apr 1518[9]

mentioned in records of Star Chamber proceedings as 'being Lord
and owner of the Manor of Midgley', 1527 [Sutcliffe, cited by A.
Holmes][6]

called 'Hughe Lacie, esquier' in the will of John Savile of New
Hall, his brother-in-law, dated 1 April 1540 (proven 30 Jul 1545)
- Halifax Wills Vol. II, pp.. 4-5[9]

his will dated 20 Sept 1570, proven 31 July 1573 includes
provision for payment
' To Margaret, my daughter, now wife of William Farrer;..' and
her siblings;
' The rest of the 50 lb. and also Her Majesty's Privie Seale for
the same, with residue of all my goods, to my youngest son,
Gilbert my sole executor. I make William Farrer, of the Ewoods,
and John Deane, of Deanhouse, my son-in-law, Overseers.'[6]

identified as father of Margaret Lacy, wife of William Farrar in
Visitation of Hertfordshire, 1634 (states 'John Lacy of
Brearley', correction to '[Hugh]')[10] and Visitation of Surrey,
1623 (states erroneously 'Margerett d. of John Lacy of Brerely in
com. York')[11]

Spouse: Agnes Savile
Father: Nicholas Savile of New Hall in Eland, co. Yorks.(-<1527)
Mother: Margery Wilkinson

Children: Margaret (->1571)
John Lacy of Brearley Hall(-<1585)
Alice
Agnes
Elizabeth
Ellen
Gilbert (->1573)


1.1.1.2.1.1 Margaret Lacy[6],[10],[11]
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 28 Dec 1571[12]

'Margaret, my daughter, now wife of William Farrer', will of Hugh
Lacy [proven 31 July 1573: text in Holmes[6]]

GENEALOGICS #I00387129[13]

identified as 'Margaret, daughter of Hugh Lacy, of Brearley, co.
York' [pedigree of Farrer, of Ingleborough, co. York, County
Families Vol. I - West Riding[8]]

Spouse: William Farrar of Ewood in Midgely, co. Yorks.
Death: bef 3 Apr 1573[12]
Father: Henry Ferror (-<1549)
Mother: Agnes (->1548)

Children: Henry Farrar of Ewood(-<1610)
John (-<1628)
Hugh
Ellen
Mary
Margaret
Agnes


1.1.1.2.1.1.1 John Farrar
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 26 May 1628[3],[6]

Esquire, of Croxton, co. Lincoln., and St. Mary, Aldermanbury,
London
2nd son (elder brother died d.s.p.)

armorial bearings of 'John Ferrar of Croxton' confirmed as
appertaining to him by William Camden, Clarenceux King of Arms
in 1609[14]

inherited lands of Ewood and Midgley from brother Henry on his
death, July 1610[6]

will dated Nov 14, 1627, proven May 28, 1628 [The Pedigree of
Farrar[12], and A. Holmes, p. 51[6], citing PCC 50, the will of
' John Farrer the elder of London, Esquire, of Aldermanbury
Parish ' ]

NOTE: identified erroneously in pedigree of Farrer, of
Ingleborough, co. York (County Pedigrees) as 'John Farrer,
of Elfaburgh Hall [ca 1537]'[8] based on said John Farrer
being named one of the supervisors of Henry Farrer's will,
25 June 1548[9]

see also pedigrees in Visitations of Surrey, 1623[10] and
Hertfordshire, 1634[11]

cf. Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 303[15],
Holmes, pp. 49-52[6]

Spouse: Cecily Kelke[16]
Birth: bef 1552[17]
Father: William Kelke, mercer, of London (~1520-<1552)
Mother: Thomasine Skerne (-<1566)
Marr: 25 Aug 1574, St. Sepulchre's without Newgate, London[16]

Children: Henry Farrar of Ewood(->1644)
John Farrar of Hanroyd (later of Ewood) (<1581-<1649)
William (<1583-<1637)
Humfrey


1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 William Farrar[3]
----------------------------------------
Birth: bef 28 Apr 1583, Croxton, Lincolnshire[3]
Death: bef 11 Jun 1637[6]
Occ: planter; member, Council for Virginia 1626 -[18]

of Hoddesdon, Bloxborne and Amwell, co. Herts., and 'Farrar's
Island', Henrico Co., Virginia

' William Kelke 1623 ', 3rd son - Visitations of Surrey, 1623
[pedigree of Farrar] [10]

arrived in Virginia on the Neptune with Lord de la Warr, August
1618[3]

' Willliam fferrar ', res. at 'Jordans Journey', 16 Feb 1623/24 :
appointed as attorney resident there with family of Cecily, widow
of Samuel Jordan, muster of 23 Jan 1623/24[18] :
' The MUSTER of m' WILLIAM FERRAR & m's JORDAN
WILLIAM FERRAR aged 31 yeares in the Neptune in August 1618
SISLEY JORDAN aged 24 yeres in the Swan in August 1610
Jordans Jorney. Charles Cittie
MARY JORDAN her daughter aged 3 yeares ttt borne heare.
MARGRETT JORDAN aged 1 yeare
TEMPERANCE BALEY aged 7 yeares
Servant's
WILLIAM DAWSON aged 25 yeres in the Discouery March 1621
ROBERT TURNER aged 26 yeres in the Tryall June 1619
JOHN HELY aged 24 yeares in the Charles November 1621
ROGER PRESTON aged 21 yeares in the Discouerie March 1621
ROBERT MANUELL aged 25 yeres in the Charles November 1621
THOMAS WILLIAMS aged 24 yeares in the Dutic May 1618
RICHARD JOHNSON aged 22 yeares in the Southampton 1622
WILLIAM HATFEILD aged in the Southampton 1622
JOHN PEAD 35 yeares old in the same Shipp
JOHN FREAME aged 16 yeares in the
same Shipp ' [ Muster of 21 Jan 1624/5[19],[20] ]

The records of the Virginia Company of London record, 4 June
1623, record the examination concerning the disavowal of Cecily
Jordan's previous marriage contract and her contract to marry
William Farrar [Ref. State Papers, Colonial, James I, Vol. II,
No. 30] [21]

married Cecily, before 14 Nov 1627 (date of father's will) and
probably before 1626.[6]

inherited lands in Hoddesdon, Bloxborne and Amwell, co. Herts. per
father's will, dated 14 Nov 1627, proven May 28, 1628[12],[6]

'William Farrar', identified as third son in pedigree of Farrar,
Visitations of Surrey, 1623[10] and Hertfordshire, 1634[11]

Sold English lands in Hertfordshire, September 6, 1631 [6];
returned to Virginia

d. before 11 June 1637:
'Willm. Farrar', "sonn and heire of Willm. Farrar late of Henrico,
decd.", had grant dated 11 June 1637 of '..2000 acres eastly.
upon the Gleab land of Varina, &c. westerly to the bottom of
---- island.' [Virginia State Land Office, Land Office Patents
No. 1, 1623-1643 (v.1 & 2), p. 437 (Reel 1)][22]

3rd husband of Cecily _____ Jordan.[18]

cf. Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 303[15],
Holmes, pp. 49-52, 111-125[6]

Spouse: Cecily Reynolds (?)[18]
Birth: ca 1599[18],[6]
Death: aft 1629
Marr: bef Jun 1627[6]

Children: William (~1627->1676)
John (->1684)
Cecily



1. "The Visitation of Yorkshire," Harleian Soc., William Flower,
Esquire, Norroy King of Arms, Harleian Series, Vol. 16,
Mitchell and Hughes, Printers, London, 1881, pp. 154-156:
pedigree of Hastings of Elsing ('Hastynges..' of Fenwick, co.
Yorks.), 'The Visitation of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and
1564'.
2. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage,"
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain
and the United Kingdom.
3. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists,"
Baltimore: the Genealogical Pub. Company, 1st ed.
4. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
Hastings: from Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of
Gressenhall, charters and other documents re: Hastings of
Elsing, from FILE - Charter - Grant - ref. MR 72 241 x 3,
also, Norfolk Record Office: Collecton of Manorial Documents
relating to Gressenhall and Hunstanton, (includes COLLECTION
of MANORIAL DOCUMENTS relating to GRESSENHALL and HUNSTANTON).
5. William Brown, F.S.A., ed., "Yorkshire Deeds, Vol. II," The
Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series, Record series
vol. L - 1914.
6. Alvahn Holmes, "The Farrar's Island Family and its English
Ancestry," Baltimore: Gateway Press, Inc., 1972, reprinted
1986, cites Rev. C. V. Collier, 'Documents at "Burton Agnes"',
East Riding Society, vols. 18-19 (1911-1912), providing
abstracts of 6 deeds relating to Kelke and identifying members
of the Kelke family.
7. "Some Early Lacys," E. Lacey, Rootsweb World Connect Project
(www. rootsweb.com), extracted 23 Aug 2000,
homepages.rootsweb.com/~elacey/delacy_wbg/.
8. "Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire," compiled by
Joseph Foster, W. Wilfred Head, London, 1874.
9. J. W. Clay, F.S.A., and E. W. Crossley, editors, "Halifax
Wills," (privately printed for the editor), Vol. I (1389 to
1544); Vol II (1545-1559).
10. Samuel Thompson and Augustin Vincent, Marshals and Deputies to
William Camden, Clarenceux King of Arms, "The Visitation of
the County of Surrey," W. Bruce Bannerman, F.S.A. Scot.,
Editor, 1899, Harleian Series, Vol. 43.
11. Sir Richard St. George, Kt., Clarencieux, in 1634, "The
Visitations of Hertfordshire," Walter C. Metcalfe, F.S.A.,
Editor, 1886, Harleian Series, Vol. 22.
12. "The Pedigree of Farrar," Chester Herald, The College of Arms,
London, 1900, The Descent of Dr. Lillian Farrar of New York.
13. "Genealogics," website by Leo van de Pas, http://www.genealogics.com
cites Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg.,
Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, [ES], and other sources, ES VII
81, for Arnoul III, comte de Guines.
14. "The Descent of Dr. Lillian K. Farrar, M.D.," Chester Herald,
College of Arms, London, N/A (MSS from College of Arms),
obtained from Library of Congress.
15. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial
and Medieval Families," Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing
Company, 2004.
16. "The Visitation of Lincolnshire," Harleian Society, Harleian
Series, Vols. 50-52 (Lincolnshire, Vols. I-III), II:555-557,
Kelke of Barnetby, III: 884-886, Skerne of Bonby and Waltham.
17. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003, email
royalancestry@msn.com.
18. V.Meyer and John F. Dorman, FASG, "Adventurers of Purse and
Person, 1607-1624/5," Order of First Families of Virginia, 3rd
ed. 1987, (Farrar, pp. 273 et seq.; Royall, pp. 517 et seq.).
19. "Jamestown Muster, 21 January 1624/5," Virtual Jamestown,
http://www.iath.virginia.edu/vcdh/james ... ction.html
gives details of households in the Virginia colony, 21 January
1624/5, Jordan's Journey: household of Cecily Jordan; also
William 'fferrar'.
20. "Ancestry.com," Ancestry.com,
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/
21. "Records of the Virginia Company of London, Vol. I,"
http://www.ancestry.com, p. 56 (citation re: William Farrar, ref.
Brown, The First Republic. Also, see A. Holmes, The Farrar's
Island Family, pp. 115-6.
22. State of Virginia, "Land Office Patents and Grants,"
http://eagle.vsla.edu/lonn/virtua-basic.html
extracted 10 October 2001, Land Office patents No. 17,
1735-1738 (Amelia Co. grants), VTLS-Web Gateway.


* John P. Ravilious

Gjest

Re: Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley

Legg inn av Gjest » 24 mar 2005 13:11:01

Thursday, 24 March, 2005


Dear Brom, Richard, Dave, Doug, Leo, Ian, Rosie, Tim, et al.,

In connection with the descent previously given from Edward I
of England, via Bosvile, Symmes and Lacy of Brearley to the
emigrant William Farrar, I recently noted the following derived
from the IPM of Hugh Lacy, Esq. of Brearley, co. Yorks. :

' Sutcliffe lists among other property of Hugh Lacy
given in his Inquisition Post Mortem, in 1573, besides
Brearley Hall, a number of other estates, messuages,
etc., part of the Manor of Midgley, messuages in
Brearley, the Manor of Cromwell Bottom and other lands
in Southowram, one-sixth of the Manor of Ethesthorpe,
lands in Northowram and Stanfield; also the Manor of
Wakefield in Socage. ' [1]

Most of the above holdings can be traced to earlier marriages
of the Lacys (incl. Brearley, from Soothill) or from Hugh Lacy's
own marriage to Agnes Savile (the lands cited in Stanfield likely
from her maritagium). "Ethesthorpe" is clearly a slight mispelling
of 'Etherthorpe', the rendering ca. 1822 of Edderthorpe [2].

The reference to Hugh Lacy's tenure in 1573 of "one-sixth
of the Manor of Ethesthorpe" supports the earlier descent given
from Bosvile of Ardsley, and (while not conclusive proof in
itself) supports the notion that Margaret Bosvile brought a moiety
- likely half - of the manor of Edderthorpe to her marriage with
William Symmes, ca. 1475-1480.


Sir Thomas Bosvile = Isabel Hastings
of Ardsley, Edderthorpe I
& c. [d. bef 10 Jun 1490] I
_______________________________I_________
I I I I
John <siblings> William = Margaret Bosvile
(dvp) Symmes I ? maritagium:
dvp 1483 I 1/2 of Edderthorpe ?
I
__________________________________I_________________
I I I I
William Alice Isabel Joan
Symmes (1/3 coheir) (1/3 coheir) (1/3 coheir)
dsp bef = Gerard = John St. = Robert
3 Nov 1501 Lacy Paul Burton
I I I
I I I
I I I
Hugh Lacy V V
Esq., of Brearley descendant descendant
(held 1/6 of - held/sold - held/sold
Edderthorpe, 1573) 1/6 of 1/6 of
Edderthorpe ? Edderthorpe ?



Should anyone have access to the text of Hugh Lacy's IPM of
1573, or a reference as to where this has been published (assuming
in fact that it has been published previously), that information
would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

John *



NOTES:

[1] A. Holmes, The Farrar's Island Family and Its English
Ancestry (Baltimore: Gateway Press, 1986), pp. 90-91.
Miss Holmes cited Tom Sutcliffe, The Brearley Halls,
Upper and Lower, in Transactions of the Halifax Antiquarian
Society (Sept. 1922), IV:131.

[2] Baine's Directory and Gazetteer Vol II (West Riding) (1822),
for Darfield parish, West Riding, co. Yorks. as transcribed
by Colin Hinson (URL:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WR ... eld22.html

"ETHERTHORPE, in the parish of Darfield, and wapentake of
Strafforth and Tickhill; 4 miles E. of Barnsley."



* John P. Ravilious

Gjest

Re: Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley

Legg inn av Gjest » 27 apr 2005 01:51:48

Tuesday, 26 April, 2005


Dear Worth, Brom, Richard, Doug, Rosie, Leo, Ian, Chris, et al.,

In prior posts to this thread, evidence was presented concerning
the descent of the emigrant William Farrar (1583-ca. 1637) from Edward
I of England through the Symmes family of Barnsley, co. Yorks. This
is to advise that additional supporting evidence concerning the
manor of Edderthorpe, co. Yorks. Further, I discovered today that
this specific line of descent was published by G. B. Roberts in 2004,
in his book RD 600.

A. Excerpts from Feet of Fines of the Tudor Period [1]
(emphasis in CAPITALS is mine, and not in original text)

" Plaintiffs " " Deforciants " " Nature and Situation of the
Property "

p. 52 (1528):

Christopher Thomas Trygot and Manor of Highburton and 70
Bradford, William Johanna his wife messuages, 4 mills, with lands
Amyas, Thomas in Riley, Melton, Shelley,
Beamond, and Collersley, North Crosland,
Baldewin Yong Lokwood, Thurstonland, Lyndtwayte,
Cumberworth, Dodworth, Barnesley,
Carleton near Ruston, Harlyngton
and Hulland, a third part of 2
messuages with land in Thurnsto
and Worsburgh, and a sixth part of
3 messuages with lands in
EDERTHORP, and the advowson
of the chantry of St. Mary in
the parish of Highburton.

p. 98 (1542):

John Wylkynson John Seyntpall, 4 messuages with lands and a
and William esq. third part of a moiety of 6
More messuages with lands in Barnesley,
Holand, EDERTHORP, Derfeld,
Thirnscoo, and Swayth.

p. 109 (1544 - Easter Term, 36 Henry VIII.):

John Wylkynson Robert Trigott, A third part of a moiety of 4
esq. messuages with lands in EDDERTHORP
and Derfeld.


Based on these excerpts, the chart previously given for the descent
of Edderthorpe, co. Yorks. can be filled in to a somewhat more accurate
degree, as follows:


Sir Thomas Bosvile = Isabel Hastings
of Ardsley, Edderthorpe I
& c. [d. bef 10 Jun 1490] I
_______________________________I_________
I I I I
John <siblings> William = Margaret Bosvile
(dvp) Symmes I (maritagium:
dvp 1483 I a moiety of Edderthorpe)
I
__________________________________I_______________
I I I I
William Alice Isabel Joan
Symmes (1/3 coheir) (1/3 coheir) (1/3 coheir in her issue)
dsp bef = Gerard = John St. = Robert
3 Nov 1501 Lacy Paul Burton
I I I
__________I I I
I I I
Hugh Lacy William St. Paul Joan = Thomas
Esq., of Brearley fl. 19 Mar 1534/5 (1/3 I Trigott
(held 1/6 of I coheir) I fl. 1524/
Edderthorpe, 1573) I I 1528
I I

I I

John St. Paul, Esq. Robert Trigott, Esq.
(son or brother of (held 1/3 of a
William) moiety of 4
(held 1/3 of a moiety messuages with
of 6 messuages with lands in
lands in EDERTHORP EDDERTHORP, 1544)
and elsewhere, 1542)


B. From The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants [2]:

1. Edward I, King of England, d. 1307 = Eleanor of Castile

2. Joan Plantagenet = Gilbert de Clare, 3rd Earl of Gloucester,
7th Earl of Hertford

3. Margaret de Clare = Hugh de Audley, 1st Earl of Gloucester

4. Margaret de Audley = Ralph Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford

5. Hugh Stafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford = Philippa Beauchamp

6. Katherine Stafford = Michael de la Pole, 2nd Earl of Suffolk

7. Isabel de la Pole = Thomas Morley, 5th Baron Morley

8. Anne Morley = Sir John Hastings [3]

9. Isabel Hastings 9. Elizabeth Hastings
= Thomas Bosvile = Sir Robert Hildyard

10. Margaret Bosvile 10. Katherine Hildyard
= William Symmes = William Girlington

11. Alice Symmes 11. Isabel Girlington
= Gerard Lacy = Christopher Kelke

12. Hugh Lacy 12. William Kelke
= Agnes Savile = Thomasine Skerne

13. Margaret Lacy
= William Farrar

14. John Farrar = 13. Cecily Kelke

14, 15. William Farrar of Va. = Mrs. Cecily ----- Jordan


GBR stated in notes to this pedigree (p. 317), "The Hastings-
Bosvile-Symmes-Lacy-Farrar descent was developed and brought to my
attention by Worth S. Anderson of Arlington, Va." Evidently Worth
(an SGM list member) was working on this same descent sometime before
my own research.

Worth, if you're reading this, we (Farrar descendants and others)
would be interested in your research and documentation concerning this
descent.

Cheers,

John *



NOTES:

[1] Feet of Fines of the Tudor Period, Yorkshire Archaeological
and Topographical Association Record Series, Part I [Series
Vol. II] (Printed for the Society, 1887), pp. 52, 98, 109.

[2] Gary Boyd Roberts, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the
American Colonies or the United States (Baltimore: Genealogical
Publishing Company, 2004), pp. 316-7.

[3] Note: John Hastings, Esq. of Elsing and Gressenhall was
not a knight.



* John P. Ravilious

Leo van de Pas

Re: Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 27 apr 2005 03:13:38

Dear John,

I always enjoy your kind of messages as it makes me retrace some of my steps
and, usually, it brings corrections and additions. I have the plain Mr. John
Hastings of Gressenhall marked off in my website as complete. This messages
made it clear that he wasn't, I had at least one child missing. As this
Hastings family in the male line has become extinct (at least in the
legitimate line) it is very difficult to find enough information about all
the children of this John Hastings. He may have been a plain Mr., the
Complete Peerage shows him as de Jure 9th Lord Hastings. I would like to
give the details I have about John and his immediate family and I hope
someone can make their information more detailed and also tell if more
children are missing.

John Hastings, de Jure 9th Lord Hastings,
born before 1411 Gressenhall, Elsing died 9 April 1477 Elsing
married after 21 April 1434 Ann Morley
(Source Complete Peerage Volume VI page 360)
children :
1.Elizabeth born before 1440, married before 1460 Sir Robert Hildyard
Sources Burke's Exctince Peerage, 1866 edition, page 167; Plantagenet
Ancestry by
David Faris, 1st edition, page 109
2.Sir Hugh Hastings, of Gressenhall, de Jure 10th Lord Hastings
died 7 June 1488, married before 12 April 1455 Anne Gascoigne
Source the Complete Peerage Vol VI page 361
3. Edmund Hastings
married (1) Eleanor Woodhouse (2) Mary Greystoke
Source Harleian Series Vol 16 Visitations of Yorkshire (thanks to John
Ravilious)
4.Robert Hastings
Source Harleian Series Vol 16 Vistiations of Yorkshire (thanks to John
Ravilious)
5.Isabel Hastings, married Thomas Bosvile
Source Gary Boyd Roberts 600

This John Hastings is an ancestor of Gateway Ancestors
William Farrar, the Rev. William Skepper, Richard Bellingham, William
Aasfordby and Charles Rodes

on gen-med of Brom Nichol Jr., John Ravilious and Tony Hoskins

as well as the late Queen Mother, Lady Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson and
Camilla Parker-Bowles

Can anyone add more children to these five mentioned above?

Many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

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Subject: Re: Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley


Tuesday, 26 April, 2005


Dear Worth, Brom, Richard, Doug, Rosie, Leo, Ian, Chris, et al.,

In prior posts to this thread, evidence was presented concerning
the descent of the emigrant William Farrar (1583-ca. 1637) from Edward
I of England through the Symmes family of Barnsley, co. Yorks. This
is to advise that additional supporting evidence concerning the
manor of Edderthorpe, co. Yorks. Further, I discovered today that
this specific line of descent was published by G. B. Roberts in 2004,
in his book RD 600.

A. Excerpts from Feet of Fines of the Tudor Period [1]
(emphasis in CAPITALS is mine, and not in original text)

" Plaintiffs " " Deforciants " " Nature and Situation of the
Property "

p. 52 (1528):

Christopher Thomas Trygot and Manor of Highburton and 70
Bradford, William Johanna his wife messuages, 4 mills, with lands
Amyas, Thomas in Riley, Melton, Shelley,
Beamond, and Collersley, North Crosland,
Baldewin Yong Lokwood, Thurstonland,
Lyndtwayte,
Cumberworth, Dodworth, Barnesley,
Carleton near Ruston, Harlyngton
and Hulland, a third part of 2
messuages with land in Thurnsto
and Worsburgh, and a sixth part
of
3 messuages with lands in
EDERTHORP, and the advowson
of the chantry of St. Mary in
the parish of Highburton.

p. 98 (1542):

John Wylkynson John Seyntpall, 4 messuages with lands and a
and William esq. third part of a moiety of 6
More messuages with lands in
Barnesley,
Holand, EDERTHORP, Derfeld,
Thirnscoo, and Swayth.

p. 109 (1544 - Easter Term, 36 Henry VIII.):

John Wylkynson Robert Trigott, A third part of a moiety of 4
esq. messuages with lands in
EDDERTHORP
and Derfeld.


Based on these excerpts, the chart previously given for the descent
of Edderthorpe, co. Yorks. can be filled in to a somewhat more accurate
degree, as follows:


Sir Thomas Bosvile = Isabel Hastings
of Ardsley, Edderthorpe I
& c. [d. bef 10 Jun 1490] I
_______________________________I_________
I I I I
John <siblings> William = Margaret Bosvile
(dvp) Symmes I (maritagium:
dvp 1483 I a moiety of Edderthorpe)
I
__________________________________I_______________
I I I I
William Alice Isabel Joan
Symmes (1/3 coheir) (1/3 coheir) (1/3 coheir in her
issue)
dsp bef = Gerard = John St. = Robert
3 Nov 1501 Lacy Paul Burton
I I I
__________I I I
I I I
Hugh Lacy William St. Paul Joan = Thomas
Esq., of Brearley fl. 19 Mar 1534/5 (1/3 I Trigott
(held 1/6 of I coheir) I fl. 1524/
Edderthorpe, 1573) I I 1528
I I

I I

John St. Paul, Esq. Robert Trigott,
Esq.
(son or brother of (held 1/3 of a
William) moiety of 4
(held 1/3 of a moiety messuages with
of 6 messuages with lands in
lands in EDERTHORP EDDERTHORP, 1544)
and elsewhere, 1542)


B. From The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants [2]:

1. Edward I, King of England, d. 1307 = Eleanor of Castile

2. Joan Plantagenet = Gilbert de Clare, 3rd Earl of Gloucester,
7th Earl of Hertford

3. Margaret de Clare = Hugh de Audley, 1st Earl of Gloucester

4. Margaret de Audley = Ralph Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford

5. Hugh Stafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford = Philippa Beauchamp

6. Katherine Stafford = Michael de la Pole, 2nd Earl of Suffolk

7. Isabel de la Pole = Thomas Morley, 5th Baron Morley

8. Anne Morley = Sir John Hastings [3]

9. Isabel Hastings 9. Elizabeth Hastings
= Thomas Bosvile = Sir Robert Hildyard

10. Margaret Bosvile 10. Katherine Hildyard
= William Symmes = William Girlington

11. Alice Symmes 11. Isabel Girlington
= Gerard Lacy = Christopher Kelke

12. Hugh Lacy 12. William Kelke
= Agnes Savile = Thomasine Skerne

13. Margaret Lacy
= William Farrar

14. John Farrar = 13. Cecily Kelke

14, 15. William Farrar of Va. = Mrs. Cecily ----- Jordan


GBR stated in notes to this pedigree (p. 317), "The Hastings-
Bosvile-Symmes-Lacy-Farrar descent was developed and brought to my
attention by Worth S. Anderson of Arlington, Va." Evidently Worth
(an SGM list member) was working on this same descent sometime before
my own research.

Worth, if you're reading this, we (Farrar descendants and others)
would be interested in your research and documentation concerning this
descent.

Cheers,

John *



NOTES:

[1] Feet of Fines of the Tudor Period, Yorkshire Archaeological
and Topographical Association Record Series, Part I [Series
Vol. II] (Printed for the Society, 1887), pp. 52, 98, 109.

[2] Gary Boyd Roberts, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the
American Colonies or the United States (Baltimore: Genealogical
Publishing Company, 2004), pp. 316-7.

[3] Note: John Hastings, Esq. of Elsing and Gressenhall was
not a knight.



* John P. Ravilious

Gjest

Re: Plantagenet Descent: Edward I to Symmes of Barnsley

Legg inn av Gjest » 27 apr 2005 13:25:11

Dear Leo,

Thanks for the kind words.

Below please find the details (as I now have them) for the
family of John Hastings, Esq. of Elsing & c. and his wife Anne
Morley. Please let me know if this raises any further questions,
concerning additional lines of descent or otherwise.

Cheers,

John *

1 John Hastings[1]
----------------------------------------
Birth: bef 6 Jan 1411[2]
Death: 9 Apr 1477, Elsing, Norfolk[3],[2]
Burial: Gressenhall Church, Norfolk[2]
Occ: Lord Hastings
Father: Edward Hastings (<1382-1437)
Mother: Muriel Dinham (-<1427)

esquire, of Gressenhall, Elsing, East Lexham and Weasenham, Norfok,
Fenwick, Norton and Moseley, co. Yorks., and Monewden, Suffolk *

'John Hastynges of Fenwyke nigh Ardesley. = Anne doughter to William
Lord Morley.' -[HSP 16:154-156, Vis. of Yorkshire: pedigree of
Hastynges[1]]

'John Hastings Esquier [ " of Fennwyck " ] = Anne d. to. ....
[William] Lord Morley ' [pedigree of Hastings of Fenwick, Surtees
Vis. North IV:45[4]]

9th Lord Hastings[2]

dispensation for his marriage to Anne Morley approved - see Papal
mandate dated 21 Apr 1434:
'Papal mandate to the Bishop of Norwich to grant a dispensation for
the marriage of John Hastinges and Anne Morley, although they were
related in the 3rd-4th degree of consanguinity: xi kal. Maii 4
Eugenius IV [21 Apr. 1434].'[ CP VI:360, note f, sub "Hastings"[2]]

Deed of Release, 28 Feb 13 Hen VI [ 1434/5 ]:
' John son of Edward Lord of Hastyngg' and de Stotvyle, Kt
to Sir Robert Clifton, Kt and Robert Edymon, clerk.
Manors of Gressenhale and Estlexham and property in other
counties.' - A2A, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of
Gressenhall [ MR 90 241 x 3 ], [ MR 91 241 x 3 ][5]

Indenture (release) dated 9 Feb 16 Hen VI (1437/38), by Lady
Margery (Clifton) Hastings, widow of Edward Hastings, to her
stepson John :
'1) Margeria Lady Hastyngges.
2) Sir John Pelle, Sir William Normanton, clerks and Adam Levelord,
general attornies of John Hastyngges son of Edward late Lord
Hastyngge
Manors of Munden Cretyngham Elsyng Gressenale and Estlexham. '
- A2A, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of
Gressenhall [ MR 96 241 x 3 ][5]

' John Hastynges esquire ', acted as feoffee together with William
de la Pole, marquess of Suffolk (uncle of his wife Anne) and others
in transfer of the manors of Nansladron, Carmynowe, Kenell,
Wynyanton and Rynsy to John Arundell esquire, Elizabeth his wife
and their heirs of body, 1450 or before [ exemplification of a
recovery by James Tyrell knight and Ann Arundell his wife,
demandants. 1480 (Easter term) and 1481, All Souls (20 and 21 Edw
IV) - A2A, Cornwall Record Office: Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice
[AR/17 - AR/50], AR/17/78[5]]

sold land in Gressenhall as recorded in an indenture, 1471/2:
' Indenture - Sale,
John Hastyngges Esq., lord of the manor of Gressenhale to Thomas
Robyns of Gressenhale Stephen Robyns and William Yemmys of
the same. Woodland called Oldkarr in Gressenhale' - A2A, Norfolk
Record Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall [MR 99 241 x 4][5]

Grantor of a charter dated 5 Apr 16 Edw IV [1476]:
' John Hastyngges of Elsyng, Esq son and heir of Lord Edward
Hastyngges Kt & Mirielle his wife daughter of Sir John Denham, Kt.
to John Heydon, Henry Suthyll, Richard Southwell, Henry Heydon, and
Henry Spelman.
Capital messuage called Lady Morley Place in parish of St Peter
Mamcroft, Norwich next the church of Blessed Mary in the Fields and
a water mill called le Gryn' alias Grynmylle in Northelmeham lands
and tenements belonging in the same and Byllyngford. ' - A2A,
Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall
[ MR 268 242 x 3 ][5]

Constable of castle and gaol of Norwich, June 11, 1441; Sheriff of
Norfolk, 1474-1475[2]

* land holdings per his Inquisition post mortem, 20 Sept - 4 Oct
1477 [2]

Will of John Hastynges of Elsyng, squyer. 8 Apr. 1477 - A2A, Norfolk
Record Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall [ MR 320 242 x 5 ][5]

re his wife Anne Morley:

'Anne doughter to William Lord Morley' [HSP 16:154-156, Vis. of
Yorkshire: pedigree of Hastynges[1]]

the will of her mother, Isabel, Lady Morley names her 'son John
Hastyng and her daughter Anne, wife of the said John', 3 May 1464.
[CP VI:360][2]

Spouse: Anne Morley
Death: 1471[2]
Father: Thomas Morley, Lord Morley (<1393-1435)
Mother: Isabel de la Pole (-1466)
Marr: ca 21 Apr 1434[2]

Children: Muriel
Elizabeth
Isabel (->1490)
Sir Hugh (-1488)
Edmund
Robert
John
Charles


1.1 Muriel Hastings
----------------------------------------

'Meryell sine prole wyff to .... Pierpoynt.' [HSP 16:156, Vis. of
Yorkshire: pedigree of Hastynges[1]]


1.2 Elizabeth Hastings[6],[1]
----------------------------------------

'Elsabeth wyff to Sir Robert Hyllyard'[HSP 16:156, Vis. of
Yorkshire: pedigree of Hastynges[1]]

'Elsabeth doughter to John Hastynges of Fenwyke.' [HSP 16:170,
pedigree of Hyllyard.[1]]

' Elizabeth filia Iohannis Hastinges de Fenwicke ' [Surtees Vis.
North III:136[6]]

reference to her being married to Robert Hildyard in will of
father-in-law Sir Robert Hildyard, 13 March 1485/86: reference to
sums in hands of her brother Hugh Hastings, willed to her husband
for use as marriage gifts [maritagia] for his/their daughters:
' Roberto Hillyard, filio meo, xx li., quae sunt in manibus
Hugonis Hastynges militis, mihi debitas, ad maritagium filiarum
suarum...' [Testa. Eboracensia 53:11-13[7]]

Genealogics # I00135231[8]

Spouse: Sir Robert Hildyard, of Winestead in Holderness[9],[1]
Death: 21 May 1501[3]
Father: Robert Hildyard (-<1489)
Mother: Katherine de la Hay (-<1485)

Children: Peter (-1501)
Katherine, m. 1) John Haldenby, 2) William Girlington
Robert
Margery, m. William Askew
Thomas
John
William
Adam
Edward
Hugh
Ralph
Stephen (->1535)
Anne
Henry
Denise, m. Charles Barneby of Barneby


1.3 Isabel Hastings
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 10 Jun 1490[5]

'Izabell wyff to Thomas Bosvyle of Ardesley.' [HSP 16:156, Vis. of
Yorkshire: pedigree of Hastynges[1]]

'Izabel doughter to John Hastynges of Fenwyke.' [HSP 16:28, pedigree
of Bosvyle[1]]

' Isabel (wife of Thomas Bosvile)', daughter of John Hastings and
Anne Morley [Richardson p. 290[10]]

grant of dower, 10 Jun 1490:
' Isabella Bosevile, widow, late wife of Thomas Bosevile,
knight, dec'd., of the first part.
Richard Keresford, Richard Symmes of Barnesley and John
Slakk, feoffees of Thomas Bosevile of all his lands and
tenements in Yorkshire, of the second part.
With the consent of the kinsfolk of John Bosevile, son and heir of
John Bosevile, son and heir of Thomas Bosevile, the feoffees grant
to Isabella, as her dower, 1 messuage in Calthorn, now called
Canonhall, and all lands and other appurtenances, in the tenure of
John Cowden; 2 cottages in Calthorn; a tenement built on the
Cliffhyll, in the tenure of Elizabeth Burnley, widow; annual rent
of 3/10, from a messuage in Ardesley, called Dawrodes als Wodehede.
For life. ' A2A, Sheffield Archives: Spencer Stanhope Muniments
[SpSt/1 - SpSt/172], Deeds concerning Cannon Hall : SpSt/140/1[5]

cf. Yorks. Deeds II:20-21[11]
MacDonald p. 228[12]
Richardson p. 290[10]
HSP 16:28, pedigree of Bosvyle[1]]
HSP 16:156, Vis. of Yorkshire: pedigree of Hastynges[1]

Spouse: Sir Thomas Bosvile, of Ardsley, co. Yorks.
Death: bef 10 Jun 1490[5]
Father: William Bosvile (ca1401-)
Mother: Maud FitzWilliam

Children: Margaret, m. William Symmes of Barnsley
John Bosvile, son and heir ( dvp <1490)
Hugh Bosvile, rector of Darfield (->1513)
Richard
James
Muriel, m. Sir John Burton of Kinsley
Elizabeth, m. John Keresford of Barnsley
Isabel
NN
NN


1.4 Sir Hugh Hastings
----------------------------------------
Death: 7 Jun 1488[13]
Occ: Lord Hastings

knt., of Gressenhall, Elsing, East Lexham and Weasenham, Norfok,
Fenwick, Norton and Moseley, co. York,

'Hugh Hastynges son & heyr = Ales doughter to Sir William Gaskon of
Gawthorpe' -[HSP 16:154-156, Vis. of Yorkshire: pedigree of
Hastynges[1]]

' Sr Hugh Hastings = Anne d. to Sr Wm Gascoyn of Galthorp' [pedigree
of Hastings of Fenwick, Surtees Vis. North IV:45[4]]

10th Lord Hastings; supporter of King Richard III at least through
25 May 1484 [2]

party to, and grantee of, an indenture of 10 May 17 Edw IV [1477]:
' Charter Indented - date: 1477
John Duke of Suffolk William Grey Bishop of Ely John
Lord de Denham and others by assent and will of Sir Hugh
Hastynges Robert Hastyngges and Edmund Hastyngges
sons of John Hastyngges, Esq dec'd to aforesaid Edmund
Hastyngges' - A2A, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family
of Gressenhall [ MR 301 242 x 5 ][5]

also assented to grant to brother Robert, Charter Indented
Tripartite dated 29 Apr. 17 Ed IV ( 1477):
John. .. bishop of Ely John Lord Denham and others with assent
of Sir Hugh Hastyngges Kt Robert and Edmund Hastyngges sons
of John Hastyngges Esq dec'd to said Robert Hastyngges, Esq.
Manor of Monewedon (Suff).'
-A2A, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall
[ MR 300 242 x 5 ][5]

grant dated 12 May 21 Edw IV (1481):
' Sir Hugh Hastynges, Kt son and heir of John Hastynges, Esq to
Henry Heydon Richard Southwell John Davny and others.
Manors of Gressenhale Estlexham Elsyng and Wesenham, advowsons
of Churches of Gressenhale Elsyng Brysele Stanfeld and Chapel of
St Nicholas of Rougholme in Gressenhale. ' - A2A, Norfolk Record
Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall [ MR 103 241 x 4 ][5]

Receipt dated 21 Edw IV [1481-2]:
' Receipt by Hugo Hastyng' knight from John Sotehill the younger,
esquire of 20 marks in settlement of debt of 100 marks owed by John
for the marriage of William Dronsfeld' son and heir of Christopher
Dronsfeld' ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford:
Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/26/94[5]

Will of Sir Hugh Hastynges [d. 1488], dated 20 June 1482 - A2A,
Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall
[ MR 321 242 x 5 ][5]

Spouse: Anne Gascoigne
Father: William Gascoigne (-<1466)
Mother: Margaret Clarell
Marr: bef 12 Apr 1455[2]

Children: Sir John Hastings, of Elsing (dsp ->1495)
Robert
Sir George Hastings, of Elsing and Gressenhall(-<1511)
Roger
Sir Brian Hastings, of Fenwick, co. Yorks. (->1542)
Elizabeth, m. Sir Ralph Salvain of Newbigging
Margaret
Isabel, m. Sir John Hotham
Margery
Anne
Katherine, m. Sir John Melton, Lord Lucy
Muriel, m. Sir Ralph Eure


1.5 Edmund Hastings
----------------------------------------

'Edmond Hastynges 2 son maryed = Elenor doughter to Edward
Woodhowsse of Kymberley.' -[HSP 16:154-156, Vis. of Yorkshire:
pedigree of Hastynges[1]]

' Edmund ' [pedigree of Hastings of Fenwick, Surtees Vis. North
IV:45[4]]

party to, and grantee of, an indenture of 10 May 17 Edw IV [1477]:
' Charter Indented - date: 1477
John Duke of Suffolk William Grey Bishop of Ely John
Lord de Denham and others by assent and will of Sir Hugh
Hastynges Robert Hastyngges and Edmund Hastyngges
sons of John Hastyngges, Esq dec'd to aforesaid Edmund
Hastyngges' - A2A, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family
of Gressenhall [ MR 301 242 x 5 ][5]

also assented to grant to brother Robert, Charter Indented
Tripartite dated 29 Apr. 17 Ed IV ( 1477) -A2A, Norfolk Record
Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall
[ MR 300 242 x 5 ][5]

Spouse: Eleanor Woodhouse

Children: Anne
William
John


1.6 Robert Hastings
----------------------------------------
Esq., of Monewden, Suffolk

'Robert Hastynges 3 son to John = Elsabeth doughter of .....
Thwaytes of Thwaytes.' -Vis. of Yorkshire, pedigree of Hastynges
(pp. 154-156)[1]

' Robert ' [pedigree of Hastings of Fenwick, Surtees Vis. North
IV:45[4]]

appears as a younger son, and grantee, in indenture dated 29 Apr. 17
Ed IV (1477):
Charter Indented Tripartite:
' John. .. bishop of Ely John Lord Denham and others with assent
of Sir Hugh Hastyngges Kt Robert and Edmund Hastyngges sons
of John Hastyngges Esq dec'd to said Robert Hastyngges, Esq.
Annual rent of £13 out of manor of Monewedon (Suff).'
-A2A, Norfolk Record Office: Hastings Family of Gressenhall
[ MR 300 242 x 5 ][5]

Spouse: Elizabeth Thwaites

Children: Hugh


1.7 John Hastings
----------------------------------------

' John. ' [HSP 16:154-156, Vis. of Yorkshire: pedigree of
Hastynges[1]]


1.8 Charles Hastings
----------------------------------------

' Charles. ' [HSP 16:154-156, Vis. of Yorkshire: pedigree of
Hastynges[1]]


1. William Flower, Esquire, Norroy King of Arms, "The Visitation of
Yorkshire," Harleian Soc., Harleian Series, Vol. 16, Mitchell
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Colonists," Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society,
1999, (2nd edition, 1999).


* John P. Ravilious

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