Latimer wives - is CP or RPA right?

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Latimer wives - is CP or RPA right?

Legg inn av Gjest » 09 des 2004 21:21:34

[originally posted to Gen-Med - reposted to SGM due to gateway failure]

I noted a peculiar disagreement between CP and RPA regarding the death
dates of the wives of the 3rd and 4th Lords Latimer. I wonder if this
represents a new correction to CP - or just an error in RPA.

William le Latimer, 3rd Lord Latimer mar. (as her 1st husband)
Elizabeth Botetourt, and their son William, 4th Lord Latimer mar.
Elizabeth, said to be a dau. of Edmund, 9th Earl of Arundel (although
CP says its cited sources "give no other authority" for this
parentage). For the wife of the 3rd Lord Latimer, CP 7:470 says "she
d. 11 April 1384. Her will as Lady Elizabeth Latimer, lady of
Iselhampstead, dated at Newnham by Bedford 21 March 1383/4, was pr. 26
April 1384. She desired to be buried in the priory church of Newnham."
For the wife of the 4th Lord Latimer, CP 7:475 says "She was living in
March 1385/6, but d. before 23 March 1388/9". CP appears to cite
primary sources to support these various dates.

RPA (page 643) says the wife of the 3rd Lord Latimer "died testate 11
April 1384, her will [no dates given] requesting burial in the priory
church of Newnham". On the following page, RPA says the wife of the
4th Lord Latimer "died testate 11 March 1384 (will dated 21 March 1383
[not 1383/4], proved 26 April 1384, requesting burial at Newenham [sic]
Priory church".

The question clearly is WHICH Lady Elizabeth Latimer is the one who
made the will proved in 1384, and when did she die? Unless there were
two distinct wills (not likely), it appears that RPA may have
(inadvertantly?) used the same will as documentation for both
Elizabeths.

It does seem peculiar that the 1st Elizabeth [Botetourt] would have
referred to herself as Latimer in her will, since her 1st husband the
3rd Lord Latimer died over 40 years before the date given for her
death, and she was remarried for at least 25 years. So the will may in
fact be that of the 2nd Elizabeth, but that raises doubts about the
stated death date of the 1st Elizabeth, as well as the fact that CP
thought the 2nd Elizabeth was living after the date the will was
proved.

Can anyone shed any light on this confusion?

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