[OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

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[OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Gjest » 29 nov 2004 00:21:01

In a message dated 11/28/2004 3:07:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
macduff@infionline.net writes:

That is all well and good and I want to know about both spouses. But,
would you care to supplement my income of a lousy $400 disability
income to get all the volumes? No? I didn't think so. One baby step
at a time.

Depends. What are you going to do in return? <grin>
You could do lookups for people in CP and charge them ten bucks a pop.
There ya go!
Will

Sue J

RE: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Sue J » 29 nov 2004 00:41:01

I already do look-ups but for 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 England,
Wales, Isle of Man and Channel Island censuses plus US censuses and
Revolutionary War info, etc., etc. etc., Oh, I also forgot for our
French Canadian listers, I own the complete set of Tanguay books plus
the updates and corrections for this set. Is that enough look-ups?
LOL That does not cover all the family name books I own such as
WHEATLEY, PECK, RICHARDSON, JONES, to name a few. :-)

Sue

-----Original Message-----
From: WJhonson@aol.com [mailto:WJhonson@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:19 PM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

In a message dated 11/28/2004 3:07:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
macduff@infionline.net writes:

That is all well and good and I want to know about both spouses.
But,
would you care to supplement my income of a lousy $400 disability
income to get all the volumes? No? I didn't think so. One baby
step
at a time.

Depends. What are you going to do in return? <grin>
You could do lookups for people in CP and charge them ten bucks a pop.
There ya go!
Will

bandbooster

RE: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av bandbooster » 29 nov 2004 03:41:01

Sent to Sue privately AND to Gen-Medieval for everyone's benefit:


Hi, everybody,

I'm fortunate here in that the local genealogical society [housed within the
local public library] was convinced to purchase a copy of the 6-volume set
of CP a few years ago and I have ready access to it at least 4 days a week,
when I spend time down there as a volunteer.

So, if there is anybody like Sue on this list who does NOT have ready access
to CP, nor can they afford to buy their own copy, I'll be glad to do what I
can do help with lookups. I'm one of the few people locally who appears to
have any reason to use it since it was purchased, so I've become pretty
comfortable with finding my way around in it.

Also, for anyone who has the same set and feels uncomfortable with trying to
read the tiny print, I've found that a 16% enlargement [116% of the original
size] makes it decently readable without having to go to larger paper.

Best wishes for the holidays,


Richard B. Anderson, Jr., Danville, Virginia



-----Original Message-----
From: Sue J [mailto:macduff@infionline.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:31 PM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?


I already do look-ups but for 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 England, Wales, Isle
of Man and Channel Island censuses plus US censuses and Revolutionary War
info, etc., etc. etc., Oh, I also forgot for our French Canadian listers, I
own the complete set of Tanguay books plus the updates and corrections for
this set. Is that enough look-ups? LOL That does not cover all the family
name books I own such as WHEATLEY, PECK, RICHARDSON, JONES, to name a few.
:-)

Sue

-----Original Message-----
From: WJhonson@aol.com [mailto:WJhonson@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:19 PM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

In a message dated 11/28/2004 3:07:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
macduff@infionline.net writes:

That is all well and good and I want to know about both spouses.
But,
would you care to supplement my income of a lousy $400 disability
income to get all the volumes? No? I didn't think so. One baby
step
at a time.

Depends. What are you going to do in return? <grin>
You could do lookups for people in CP and charge them ten bucks a pop. There
ya go! Will

Gjest

Re: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Gjest » 29 nov 2004 05:13:12

In a message dated 11/28/2004 3:31:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
macduff@infionline.net writes:

Oh, I also forgot for our
French Canadian listers, I own the complete set of Tanguay books plus
the updates and corrections for this set. Is that enough look-ups?

But you forgot to mention that you CHARGE for this service.
Tanguay, Drouin and Jette were my bestest buddies when I was tracing my FC
line back to France.
Will

Sue J

RE: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Sue J » 29 nov 2004 06:21:01

I don't charge a penny for anything. I don't think it is right to
charge. I may need something someday and I hope someone would treat
me the same way. We are all here to help each other, not see how much
we can make off each other.



Sue



-----Original Message-----
From: WJhonson@aol.com [mailto:WJhonson@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:13 PM
To: macduff@infionline.net; GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?



In a message dated 11/28/2004 3:31:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
macduff@infionline.net writes:




Oh, I also forgot for our
French Canadian listers, I own the complete set of Tanguay books plus
the updates and corrections for this set. Is that enough look-ups?



But you forgot to mention that you CHARGE for this service.
Tanguay, Drouin and Jette were my bestest buddies when I was tracing
my FC line back to France.
Will

Gjest

Re: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Gjest » 29 nov 2004 08:11:01

In a message dated 11/28/2004 9:20:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
macduff@infionline.net writes:

I don't charge a penny for anything. I don't think it is right to
charge. I may need something someday and I hope someone would treat
me the same way. We are all here to help each other, not see how much
we can make off each other.

If that's how you make your living, it's absolutely right to charge. My car
mechanic doesn't fix my car because he likes me. The reason you don't charge
is because you're not a professional genealogist. It's a hobby. But if
genealogy is someone's career then it's right to charge.
I don't suppose Doug would give me a free copy of his book. :)
Will Johnson

Sue J

RE: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Sue J » 29 nov 2004 08:31:01

No, I did not take some classes or go to school to get a diploma so I
guess I am not a professional genealogist. I have only been doing my
family history since my father died in 1993. At that time, I did not
even know the names of my grandparents and I knew nothing of my
mother's side since I did not grow up with her. Her side is 100%
French Canadian back to the 1600s. On my father's side I only knew my
grandparents as Grandma and Grandpa Duff. It was not polite to call
adults by their first names. I have now documented my lines to the
1700s and 1600s. I do not make a living at anything since I cannot
drive so I do not leave my home except maybe once every month or two.
The internet is my world. My husband is also 100% disabled and I hate
asking him to take me anywhere. When he is in so much pain, thanks to
16 years of military service and being shot several times, you do not
ask a person for personal pursuits. Maybe that is just the woman in
me. I know men do not think the same way. If they want something,
the just go out and get it without thinking of others and how they
feel. I am not labeling everyone on this list by a long shot. I have
gotten some good information and guidance to help me through and
almost impossible maze of trying to prove the parentage of just one
generation. :-) You take care and good luck in all your research.

Sue

-----Original Message-----
From: WJhonson@aol.com [mailto:WJhonson@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:10 AM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

In a message dated 11/28/2004 9:20:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
macduff@infionline.net writes:

I don't charge a penny for anything. I don't think it is right to
charge. I may need something someday and I hope someone would treat
me the same way. We are all here to help each other, not see how
much
we can make off each other.

If that's how you make your living, it's absolutely right to charge.
My car
mechanic doesn't fix my car because he likes me. The reason you don't
charge
is because you're not a professional genealogist. It's a hobby. But
if
genealogy is someone's career then it's right to charge.
I don't suppose Doug would give me a free copy of his book. :)
Will Johnson

Patti Metsch

Re: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Patti Metsch » 29 nov 2004 17:11:01

BRAVO, Richard!

He wrote:
So, if there is anybody... on this list who does NOT have ready access
to CP, nor can they afford to buy their own copy, I'll be glad to do what
I
can do help with lookups.

This list needs more members like you.

The majority of the people I have encountered in the genealogical community
have been more than helpful, and have usually gone out of their way - for no
remuneration - to look up data, copy articles, etc., etc. I have tried to
give back when able. Most of the lists and forums in which I have
participated included some very helpful and knowledgeable people ready to
answer questions and/or provide useful suggests about sources or possible
leads. The experience has renewed my faith in mankind.

However, while some members of THIS group display a high level of
intelligence and knowledge of the subject, they also demonstrate an
extremely low maturity level. Rather than help each other, the main focus
of this group (and I am by no means including ALL the list members) seems to
be to criticize, belittle, berate and argue over the most inane minutia.
This just makes me sad.

My next message to the list will be "UNSUBSCRIBE" as it has certainly been a
disappointment and a waste of my time.

Patti Metsch

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 29 nov 2004 18:07:21

In message of 29 Nov, pmetsch@cox.net ("Patti Metsch") wrote:

The majority of the people I have encountered in the genealogical
community have been more than helpful, and have usually gone out of
their way - for no remuneration - to look up data, copy articles,
etc., etc. I have tried to give back when able. Most of the lists
and forums in which I have participated included some very helpful
and knowledgeable people ready to answer questions and/or provide
useful suggests about sources or possible leads. The experience has
renewed my faith in mankind.

However, while some members of THIS group display a high level of
intelligence and knowledge of the subject, they also demonstrate an
extremely low maturity level. Rather than help each other, the main
focus of this group (and I am by no means including ALL the list
members) seems to be to criticize, belittle, berate and argue over
the most inane minutia. This just makes me sad.

My next message to the list will be "UNSUBSCRIBE" as it has certainly
been a disappointment and a waste of my time.

I don't think you realise what has been going on here most of the time.
Quite a few of the contributions are cutting-edge material, they are
from people who have been working on or close to source documents from
the middle ages.

The problem with the real documents is that they are rare, they are
written in bastardised latin or norman-french and the writing is
somewhat unintelligible, looking a bit like arabic. Further the
documents are about a culture that has long passed away. All this adds
up to severe difficulties in interpretation and establishing what had
happened all those centuries ago.

Now factor in the the people who are doing the work. In order to become
competent, they must spend hours, years even, studying the documents and
the interpretations thereof. They will have formed clear opinions after
their long studies and like most people who have worked hard and long
at a subject, they tolerate fools badly. You can see this happening in
any academic forum; the histories of such are full of classic and
explosive rows. But there is no doubt that the people who were at the
centre of these rows took the whole game forward.

So, have a look at what is being portrayed and not perhaps at the manner
of portrayal. If you are genuinely interested in the subject, you will
come to find many of the conversations here fascinating and of enormous
value.

Finally, if you want an example of vitriol, get hold of a copy of
Round's "Studies in Peerage and Family History"; it has been reprinted
recently. Round wrote this in 1901; he cut other genealogists to
shreds. At the same time he was a seminal figure in medieval genealogy
whose memory is now respected by everyone.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

D. Spencer Hines

Re: The Complete Peerage

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 29 nov 2004 19:01:39

So, there's her solution.

Good Show.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

""bandbooster"" <bandbooster@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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| Sent to Sue privately AND to Gen-Medieval for everyone's benefit:
|
|
| Hi, everybody,
|
| I'm fortunate here in that the local genealogical society [housed
within the
| local public library] was convinced to purchase a copy of the 6-volume
set
| of CP a few years ago and I have ready access to it at least 4 days a
week,
| when I spend time down there as a volunteer.
|
| So, if there is anybody like Sue on this list who does NOT have ready
access
| to CP, nor can they afford to buy their own copy, I'll be glad to do
what I
| can do help with lookups. I'm one of the few people locally who
appears to
| have any reason to use it since it was purchased, so I've become
pretty
| comfortable with finding my way around in it.
|
| Also, for anyone who has the same set and feels uncomfortable with
trying to
| read the tiny print, I've found that a 16% enlargement [116% of the
original
| size] makes it decently readable without having to go to larger paper.
|
| Best wishes for the holidays,
|
|
| Richard B. Anderson, Jr., Danville, Virginia
|
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Sue J [mailto:macduff@infionline.net]
| Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:31 PM
| To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
| Subject: RE: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?
|
|
| I already do look-ups but for 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 England,
Wales, Isle
| of Man and Channel Island censuses plus US censuses and Revolutionary
War
| info, etc., etc. etc., Oh, I also forgot for our French Canadian
listers, I
| own the complete set of Tanguay books plus the updates and corrections
for
| this set. Is that enough look-ups? LOL That does not cover all the
family
| name books I own such as WHEATLEY, PECK, RICHARDSON, JONES, to name a
few.
| :-)
|
| Sue
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: WJhonson@aol.com [mailto:WJhonson@aol.com]
| Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:19 PM
| To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
| Subject: [OT] Re: CP XIV for sale anywhere?
|
| In a message dated 11/28/2004 3:07:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
| macduff@infionline.net writes:
|
| > That is all well and good and I want to know about both spouses.
| But,
| > would you care to supplement my income of a lousy $400 disability
| > income to get all the volumes? No? I didn't think so. One baby
| step
| > at a time.
|
| Depends. What are you going to do in return? <grin>
| You could do lookups for people in CP and charge them ten bucks a pop.
| There ya go! Will

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