While reading the Sentimental Journey I noticed the following passage:
He could not bear, he said, to look into the sermons wrote "by the
king of Denmark's jester." —Good my lord ! said I — but there are two
Yorick's. The Yorick your lordship thinks of has been dead and buried
eight hundred years ago; he flourish'd in Horwendillus's court— the
other Yorick is myself, who have flourish'd, my lord, in no court— He
shook his head— Good God! said I, you might as well confound Alexander
the Great with Alexander the Copper-smith, my lord— 'Twas all one, he
replied—
Horwendillus is also mentioned by Tristram Shandy, I-11:
This evil had been sufficiently fenced against by the
prudent care of the Yorick's family, and their religious pre-
servation of these records I quote, which do further inform
us, That the family was originally of Danish extraction, and
had been transplanted into England as early as in the reign
of Horwendillus, king of Denmark, in whose court it seems,
an ancestor of this Mr Yorick's, and from whom he was
lineally descended, held a considerable post to the day of
his death. Of what nature this considerable post was, this
record saith not;-It only adds, That, for near two centuries,
it had been totally abolished, as altogether unnecessary, not
only in that court, but in every other court of the Christian
world.
I have not the time to look into Saxo-Grammaticus's
Danish history, to know the certainty of this; - but if you
have leisure, and can easily get at the book, you may do
it full as well yourself.
I don't have opportunity to consult Saxo Grammaticus, but would like
to know if he mentions Horwendillus or was it just another piece of
Sterne's drollery.
Paulinette
Who is Horwendillus?
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John W. Kennedy
Re: Who is Horwendillus?
Horwendillus would appear to be Claudius's real name.
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John W. Kennedy
"Give up vows and dogmas, and fixed things, and you may grow like That.
....you may come to think a blow bad, because it hurts, and not because
it humiliates. You may come to think murder wrong, because it is
violent, and not because it is unjust."
-- G. K. Chesterton. "The Ball and the Cross"
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John W. Kennedy
"Give up vows and dogmas, and fixed things, and you may grow like That.
....you may come to think a blow bad, because it hurts, and not because
it humiliates. You may come to think murder wrong, because it is
violent, and not because it is unjust."
-- G. K. Chesterton. "The Ball and the Cross"
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Gjest
Re: Who is Horwendillus?
In a message dated 11/25/2004 6:56:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
ghirlandajo@voila.fr writes:
"I have not the time to look into Saxo-Grammaticus's
Danish history, to know the certainty of this; - but if you
have leisure, and can easily get at the book, you may do
it full as well yourself."
But Saxo-Grammaticus is online here
http://www.kb.dk/elib/lit/dan/saxo/lat/or.dsr/3/6/
where Horwendillus is mentioned
In Coxe's Travels volume 5 we find this:
"Long before the introduction of Christianity into Denmark, Horwendillus,
Prefetct, or King of Jutland, was married to Gerutha, or Gertrude, daughter of
Ruric, King of Denmark, by whom he had a son, called Amlettus, or Hamlet. Fengo
murders his brother Horwendillus, marries Gertrude, and ascends the throne.
Hamlet, to avoid his uncle's jealousy, counterfeits folly.... "
So the information does truly appear in Saxo-Grammaticus. Whether or not
it's factual ....
Will Johnson
ghirlandajo@voila.fr writes:
"I have not the time to look into Saxo-Grammaticus's
Danish history, to know the certainty of this; - but if you
have leisure, and can easily get at the book, you may do
it full as well yourself."
But Saxo-Grammaticus is online here
http://www.kb.dk/elib/lit/dan/saxo/lat/or.dsr/3/6/
where Horwendillus is mentioned
In Coxe's Travels volume 5 we find this:
"Long before the introduction of Christianity into Denmark, Horwendillus,
Prefetct, or King of Jutland, was married to Gerutha, or Gertrude, daughter of
Ruric, King of Denmark, by whom he had a son, called Amlettus, or Hamlet. Fengo
murders his brother Horwendillus, marries Gertrude, and ascends the throne.
Hamlet, to avoid his uncle's jealousy, counterfeits folly.... "
So the information does truly appear in Saxo-Grammaticus. Whether or not
it's factual ....
Will Johnson
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Peter Farey
Re: Who is Horwendillus?
"Paulinette" wrote:
Get hold of a copy of The Arden Shakespeare "Hamlet"
(ed. Harold Jenkins). It's all in there, pages 85-89.
Peter F.
peter.f@rey.prestel.co.uk
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/index.htm
While reading the Sentimental Journey I noticed the
following passage:
He could not bear, he said, to look into the sermons
wrote "by the king of Denmark's jester." -Good my
lord ! said I - but there are two Yorick's. The
Yorick your lordship thinks of has been dead and
buried eight hundred years ago; he flourish'd in
Horwendillus's court - the other Yorick is myself,
who have flourish'd, my lord, in no court - He shook
his head - Good God! said I, you might as well
onfound Alexander the Great with Alexander the
Copper-smith, my lord - 'Twas all one, he replied-
Horwendillus is also mentioned by Tristram Shandy, I-11:
This evil had been sufficiently fenced against by
the prudent care of the Yorick's family, and their
religious preservation of these records I quote,
which do further inform us, That the family was
originally of Danish extraction, and had been
transplanted into England as early as in the reign
of Horwendillus, king of Denmark, in whose court
it seems, an ancestor of this Mr Yorick's, and from
whom he was lineally descended, held a considerable
post to the day of his death. Of what nature this
considerable post was, this record saith not;- It
only adds, That, for near two centuries, it had
been totally abolished, as altogether unnecessary,
not only in that court, but in every other court
of the Christian world.
I have not the time to look into Saxo-Grammaticus's
Danish history, to know the certainty of this; - but
if you have leisure, and can easily get at the book,
you may do it full as well yourself.
I don't have opportunity to consult Saxo Grammaticus,
but would like to know if he mentions Horwendillus
or was it just another piece of Sterne's drollery.
Paulinette
Get hold of a copy of The Arden Shakespeare "Hamlet"
(ed. Harold Jenkins). It's all in there, pages 85-89.
Peter F.
peter.f@rey.prestel.co.uk
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/index.htm
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Jared Linn Olar
Re: Who is Horwendillus?
Yes, Saxo does mention Horwendillus as the father of Amlethus
(Hamlet). In Saxo's version of this story (the earliest version we
have), Horwendillus is King of Jutland and husband of Gerutha,
daughter of Rorik Slyngeband, King of Denmark. Horwendillus is killed
by his brother Fengo, who then marries Gerutha. After feigning
madness, Amlethus later avenges his father's death and becomes King of
Jutland, but then comes into conflict with Wiglecus, King of Denmark,
and is killed in battle.
At your service,
Jared Linn Olar
ghirlandajo@voila.fr (Paulinette) wrote in message news:<d1d709e4.0411250644.2a87735@posting.google.com>...
(Hamlet). In Saxo's version of this story (the earliest version we
have), Horwendillus is King of Jutland and husband of Gerutha,
daughter of Rorik Slyngeband, King of Denmark. Horwendillus is killed
by his brother Fengo, who then marries Gerutha. After feigning
madness, Amlethus later avenges his father's death and becomes King of
Jutland, but then comes into conflict with Wiglecus, King of Denmark,
and is killed in battle.
At your service,
Jared Linn Olar
ghirlandajo@voila.fr (Paulinette) wrote in message news:<d1d709e4.0411250644.2a87735@posting.google.com>...
I don't have opportunity to consult Saxo Grammaticus, but would like
to know if he mentions Horwendillus or was it just another piece of
Sterne's drollery.
Paulinette