Are Odingselles descended from Odingselles?

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Clagett, Brice

Are Odingselles descended from Odingselles?

Legg inn av Clagett, Brice » 23 nov 2004 21:41:01

I have a couple of problems with the Limesi-Odingsells-
Cavendish descent as presented. I haven't looked at this
for awhile and can't immediately cite sources, but here
it is for what it's worth.

As I understand it, William Cavendish, d. 1433, of St. Thomas
Acon, London, mercer, acquired Cavendish Overhall in 1411/2
from another William Cavendish, the latter William being son of
Sir Andrew, son of Sir John Cavendish the Chief Justice.
Whether William (d. 1433) was also a grandson of the Chief
Justice or belonged to a collateral branch appears to be uncertain.

Second, I know of no proof that the Chief Justice's wife was
Alice de Odingsells. As I understand it, the Chief Justice
acquired Overhall from John de Odingsells (Alice's father or
brother?) in 1358, but this may have been a purchase and doesn't
necessarily prove a relationship.

John Ravilious

Re: Are Odingselles descended from Odingselles?

Legg inn av John Ravilious » 24 nov 2004 14:01:58

Wednesday, 24 November, 2004


Dear Brice,

I hope to have some time a bit later, at which time I will post
the text from Copinger re: Overhall in Cavendish. This should provide
some primary grist for the mill, so that (perhaps) the connections
I've shown can be either proven, invalidated or otherwise classified
as possible.

Meanwhile, my best to you, and to all (Yanks or no) for a safe
and happy Thanksgiving!

Cheers,

John



bclagett@cov.com ("Clagett, Brice") wrote in message news:<B1F75BF666FCFD4F9B3EA0D0A58482BDDAAF24@cbiexm01dc.cov.com>...
I have a couple of problems with the Limesi-Odingsells-
Cavendish descent as presented. I haven't looked at this
for awhile and can't immediately cite sources, but here
it is for what it's worth.

As I understand it, William Cavendish, d. 1433, of St. Thomas
Acon, London, mercer, acquired Cavendish Overhall in 1411/2
from another William Cavendish, the latter William being son of
Sir Andrew, son of Sir John Cavendish the Chief Justice.
Whether William (d. 1433) was also a grandson of the Chief
Justice or belonged to a collateral branch appears to be uncertain.

Second, I know of no proof that the Chief Justice's wife was
Alice de Odingsells. As I understand it, the Chief Justice
acquired Overhall from John de Odingsells (Alice's father or
brother?) in 1358, but this may have been a purchase and doesn't
necessarily prove a relationship.

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