Edward Farmer: Proposed GARD

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Edward Farmer: Proposed GARD

Legg inn av Gordon Kirkemo » 23 nov 2004 06:41:02

Greetings,

John Schulke, a new subscriber to GEN-MEDIEVAL, and I have been working to
develop the ancestry of Edward Farmer who came to Massachusetts with his
mother about 1670. As we gathered information, it seemed possible that
Edward might have descended from Henry II of England. So we put together a
chart for Edward's ancestry, and we offer it below for comments and
feedback.

To summarize the chart, we found the Farmer family to have been from
Ratcliffe Culey, Leicestershire where they married a daughter of the Purefoy
family of Caldecote, Warwickshire. The Purefoy family was descended from a
Purefoy marriage with a daughter of the Fitzherberts of Norbury, Derbyshire.
A few generations earlier we have William Fitzherbert married to Alice de
Longford of Derbyshire. This Longford marriage provided a connection to the
Botelers, but more importantly to Ela de Herdeburgh who has a descent from
Henry II first introduced to our group in 2001.

In the interest of space and time, the following chart only goes back to Ela
de Herdeburgh. Our principal sources are provided at the end and referenced
to each generation rather than to specific individuals. These are the
sources that apply directly to the proposed ascent to Ela de Herdeburgh.
Some additional information is available on collateral families extending
beyond the Thirteenth Generation, and I'd be happy to share what information
I have concerning those families. We are also interested in extending the
lines of the collateral families listed, with a special interest in the
Hardwicks (#82) and the Staffords (#322). If anyone can offer any
additional information we would love to see it.

I want to take this opportunity to thank Rosie Bevan who reviewed an earlier
version of this chart and provided very helpful comments.
So, are there any fatal flaws or additions/modifications that you see and
can share with us?
Sincerely,
Gordon Kirkemo and John Shulke
FIRST GENERATION (1,2)

1. Edward FARMER: born about 1640 in Ansley, Warwickshire, England; died on
27 May 1727 in Billerica, Middlesex, MA

SECOND GENERATION (1,2,3)

2. John FARMER: born about 1615 in Ansley, Yorkshire, England; married on
13 Aug 1633 in Arley, England; died on 2 May 1663 in Ansley, Yorkshire,
England

3. Isabella BURBAGE: died on 21 May 1686 in Billerica, Middlesex, MA

THIRD GENERATION (3,4,5)

4. John FARMER: born about 1589; married; died before 22 Aug 1658 in
Ansley, Yorkshire, England

5. Mary PUREFOY

6. Thomas BURBAGE

FOURTH GENERATION (3,4,5)

8. Bartholomew FARMER: born about 1542; married; died on 22 Dec 1624 in
Ratcliffe Culey, Leicester, England

9. Ursula MATTES

10. Francis PUREFOY: married

11. Elianora BASKERUILE

FIFTH GENERATION (5)

16. John FARMER: married; died about 1559 in, Leicestershire, England

17. Elizabeth BEARDE: died between 17 Jan 1598 and 13 Jul 1602

18. Robert MATTES/MOTTES

20. William PUREFOY: born in Caldecote, Warwickshire, England; married

21. Katherine WIGSTON

22. John BASKERUILE

SIXTH GENERATION (5,6)

32. Bartholomew FARMER: married; died about 1557 in Ratcliffe Culey,
Leicester, England

33. Margery (FARMER)

40. Michael PUREFOY: born in 1520 in Caldecote, Warwickshire, England;
married

41. Joyce HARDWICK

42. William WIGSTON

SEVENTH GENERATION (5,6,7)

64. John FARMER: married; died about 1521

65. Alice (FARMER): died about 1522

80. Thomas PUREFOY: married; died in 1542

81. Margery FITZHERBERT

82. John HARDWICK

83. Anne LANGHAM

EIGHTH GENERATION (6,7)

160. John PUREFOY: married

161. Joanna STAFFORD

162. Sir Ralph FITZHERBERT: born about 1458; married; died on 2 Mar 1483/84

163. Elizabeth MARSHALL: born about 1437; died about 20 Oct 1490

NINTH GENERATION (7,8)

320. John PUREFOY: married

321. Joan (PUREFOY)

322. Wiston STAFFORD

324. Nicholas FITZHERBERT: born about 1410; married; died in 1472

325. Alice BOOTH: born about 1415

326. John MARSHALL: born about 1411

TENTH GENERATION (7)

640. William PUREFOY: married

641. Margaret KNIGHTLEY

648. Henry FITZHERBERT: married

649. Margaret DOWNES

650. Henry BOOTH: married

651. Isabella de FINDERN

ELEVENTH GENERATION (7,8,9)

1280. William PUREFOY

1296. William FITZHERBERT: married; died after 1398

1297. Alice de LONGFORD

1300. John BOOTH: born in 1356; married; died in 1400

1301. Joanna de TRAFFORD: born in 1364

TWELFTH GENERATION (8,9)

2560. Thomas PUREFOY: married

2561. Katherine de WELLESBOROUGH

2592. William FITZHERBERT: married

2593. Jane KNIVETON

2594. Sir Nicholas de LONGFORD: born about 1288; married; died on 8 Feb
1356

2595. Alice le BOTELER

2600. Thomas BOOTH: born in 1334 in Barton, Lancashire, England; married

2601. Elena de WORSELEY: born in 1340

2602. Sir Henry de TRAFFORD: married; died in 1386

2603. Margery INCE

THIRTEENTH GENERATION (8,9)

5120. Philip I PUREFOY: married before 1343

5121. Margaret SHIRFORD

5122. John de WELLESBOROUGH

5184. Sir John FITZHERBERT: married; died after 1350

5185. Margaret MONTGOMERY

5186. Sir Nicholas KNIVETON

5188. Sir John de LONGFORD: born about 1265; married; died in 1302/3

5189. Joan BYRON

5190. William le BOTELER Lord: born on 11 Jun 1274 in Oversley,
Warwickshire, England; married before 1315/16; died before 14 Sep 1334

5191. Ela de HERDEBURGH: died after 5 Jul 1343

5200. John BOOTH: born about 1310; married

5201. Agnes BARTON: born about 1316

5202. Robert de WORSELEY: born about 1311; married

5203. Margaret BROMHALL

5204. Sir Henry de TRAFFORD: born about 1315; married

5205. Agnes DOLERINDE: born in 1302

5206. Robert INCE

SOURCES:

(1) "History of Billerica, Massachusetts" by Henry Hazen.
(2) "Genealogical Memoir of the Farmer Family" by Samuel Drake, published
in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Volume 1.
(3) "History and Antiquities of Leicestershire" by John Nichols. See
Ratcliffe Culey, pp.938-951.
(4) "Extract from College of Arms Pedigree Record" Norfolk 36/106-108.
(5) "Visitation of Warwickshire, 1619"
(6) "Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, Ireland, and Scotland" by
John Burke.
(7) "History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland" by John Burke.
(8) "A Study of a Medieval Knightly Family: The Longfords of
Derbyshire-Part 1," by Rosie Bevan, published in Foundations Vol. 1, No.4.
(9) "Plantagenet Ancestry" by Douglas Richardson.

Gjest

Re: Edward Farmer: Proposed GARD

Legg inn av Gjest » 23 nov 2004 06:51:01

In a message dated 11/22/2004 9:32:01 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kirkemo@comcast.net writes:

(2) "Genealogical Memoir of the Farmer Family" by Samuel Drake, published
in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Volume 1.

Are you quite sure this source is reliable. I note that it was originally
published in 1847 and reprinted in 1992 without modification. Not that works
from 1847 were all shoddy, but it is really only a secondary or tertiary source.
Many works of this time period did not fully document THEIR sources and so
are of limited value.
In addition an article called "Memoir of the ... family" strikes me as
possible being a collection of family legends interspersed with a few possible
facts. I see this source as a possible weak point in your thesis. Just my
opinion.
Will Johnson

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