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Royalty For Commoners Volume 4

Legg inn av Gjest » 23 nov 2004 02:01:01

Hello all,

I have read about some of the problems with Royalty For Commoners Vol. 1, 2
and 2 Revised. Has anyone had any experience with Volume 4, or should I just
stay away from it?

I am not a professional genealogist but I would like to correctly and
accurately source my family tree. Any suggestions as to what books are reliable
regarding royal and medieval genealogy?

Denise D'Antona

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Royalty For Commoners Volume 4

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 23 nov 2004 02:48:12

In message of 23 Nov, TARA1197@aol.com wrote:

Hello all,

I have read about some of the problems with Royalty For Commoners Vol.
1, 2 and 2 Revised. Has anyone had any experience with Volume 4, or
should I just stay away from it?

I am not a professional genealogist but I would like to correctly and
accurately source my family tree. Any suggestions as to what books
are reliable regarding royal and medieval genealogy?

Go for the 100,000 odd people on Leo van de Pas' well sourced site:
http://www.genealogics.org

It has the advantage that he regularly produces new editions as he finds
more information.

Failing that, have a look at his list of reference books, complete with
evaluations:

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/bo ... okeval.htm


--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

Todd A. Farmerie

Re: Royalty For Commoners Volume 4

Legg inn av Todd A. Farmerie » 23 nov 2004 03:05:29

TARA1197@aol.com wrote:
Hello all,

I have read about some of the problems with Royalty For Commoners Vol. 1, 2
and 2 Revised. Has anyone had any experience with Volume 4, or should I just
stay away from it?

I took a look at it recently, and found that most of the errors pointed
out with past editions have not been corrected, while new errors have
been added.

I am not a professional genealogist but I would like to correctly and
accurately source my family tree. Any suggestions as to what books are reliable
regarding royal and medieval genealogy?

Unfortunately, there aren't any comprehensive ones. Basically, the
field is so diverse that the same person cannot possibly be versed in
all of the necessary sources for all of the areas involved in such a
work. (e.g. ES is good for german, but terrible for the early
scandinavian material, and problematic for some of the spanish.)
Likewise, the 'right' answer is only as good as the latest charter that
has been discovered, and can change with the next discovery. Worse,
some answers change even without the discovery of anything new, just by
marshalling the existing sources differently. Certainly some sources
are better than others, but most of the better ones are several decades
old, and quite dated.

taf

Gjest

Re: Royalty For Commoners Volume 4

Legg inn av Gjest » 23 nov 2004 15:21:02

Hi Denise,

I have found the _NOTABLE KIN_ series by Gary Boyd Roberts to be accurate in
most cases. My own Dickerson line connects to many of his findings as does my
Bartholomew and Packard lines. Thousands (in the USA and UK) seem to be
related to Experience Mitchell and Francis Cooke (also my line). However, I have
have found much closer relations in William Cullen Bryant, the poet

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/RedBearsDream/Bryant.html

and Clint Eastwood, the actor director. Clint relates to me through my
Bartholomew family tree.

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/RedBearsDre ... tandI.html


These books are fun to look through, but you will find errors here and there.

Many of my lines seems to be accurate in his accountings.

I also have _The Royal Descendants of 500 Immigrants_ and _Ancestors of the
American Presidents_. His new edition has 600 (100 more). These books give
only sketchy details of the lines...such as the names. No dates, except in a
few trees.

In the American Presidents it has all the lines George W. Bush has to other
Presidents. My own lines have most of these same lines. Maybe I should go
into politics too. LOL
I have found these interesting. Of course you must prove these lines via the
same records you prove the rest of your own lineage. These books make it a
little easier to know where to look for these records.

Unless you have done your own genealogy to the same points as these trees,
they will not be of much help. If you are back to England (before the
Mayflower), they will help you sort out who's who.

Most of the Mayflower books I have seen stop at 5 generations from the
Mayflower. I have these trees from much earlier books, so again they aren't much
help to those who have not done their homework. Basically these books confirm
findings and offer leads to new lines that you might find at a latter date.

I just recently ordered a book on Charlmagne's ancestors (Vol. II) and
another on the Massachusetts General Court. After I receive them I can tell if they
were worth the time and money. Most of my own family names seem to be in
Volume II.

Margaret Sypniewska
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/treeMJKS.html <---my line of who's who.


<<In a message dated 11/22/2004 8:00:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
TARA1197@aol.com writes:

Hello all,

I have read about some of the problems with Royalty For Commoners Vol. 1, 2

and 2 Revised. Has anyone had any experience with Volume 4, or should I
just
stay away from it?

I am not a professional genealogist but I would like to correctly and
accurately source my family tree. Any suggestions as to what books are
reliable
regarding royal and medieval genealogy?

Denise D'Antona

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