meanings of the term "Gospel genealogies," which restricts the comment
quoted below to the NT. Both the 'Luke' and 'Matthew' genealogies purport
to be Joseph's male-line descent from Abraham ('Matthew') and from Adam
('Luke'), both through David.
The NT identifies neither of Mary's parents. Christian churches have not
historically accepted the Talmudic testimony: if Christian sources do speak
of Mary's parents, the names Joachim and Anna are commonly used. The names
are from uncanonical sources and are regarded as traditional; the Catholic
Church commemorates both Joachim and Anna as saints. Protestant churches
reject the historical existence of either Joachim or Anna as Mary's parents.
Regards
John P.
From: matthew_rockefeller@yahoo.com (Matthew Rockefeller)
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: FW: Re: Jesus, his brother and his nephew
Date: 19 Nov 2004 22:30:50 -0800
Precisely. Both Gospel genealogies for Joseph are (like all Biblical
genealogies, OT and NT) only through the male line. It's impossible for
Joseph to have had TWO different male-line descents from David--so one
of
the two must be in some way false, whether by fabrication or by error.
Mary was the daughter of Heli, and Joseph the son of Jacob. One
lineage is Joseph and the other Mary's. The Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah
77:4 mentions Mary the daughter of Heli in a very, very negative
light.
Matthew