FW: [OT] Jesus, his brother and his nephew

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John Parsons

FW: [OT] Jesus, his brother and his nephew

Legg inn av John Parsons » 20 nov 2004 00:31:01

At no time did I state or imply that the absolute reliability or veracity of
the 'Matthew' or 'Luke' pedigrees was the point at issue. The point is that
there can be no doubt that they were included (or in the case of 'Luke',
possibly added to the Gospel text at some later date) for the sole purpose
of indicating Joseph's Davidic descent. The lineages did not need to be
complete to suggest that Joseph had a Davidic descent.

The NT Joseph pedigrees & OT "begats," like royal genealogies in any
century, claim or establish the right of those named in them to a certain
status or to succeed to rulership. While medieval royal genealogies need to
be complete in order to verify absolutely certain individuals' right to
inherit the royal dignity and authority, such pedigrees as those in
'Matthew' and 'Luke' did not need to be absolutely accurate to accomplish
their purpose.

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John P.

From: WJhonson@aol.com
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [OT] Jesus, his brother and his nephew
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:16:15 -0500

"> > Precisely. Both Gospel genealogies for Joseph are (like all Biblical
genealogies, OT and NT) only through the male line. It's impossible
for
Joseph to have had TWO different male-line descents from David--so one
of
the two must be in some way false, whether by fabrication or by
error."

John, there is no reputable Bibical scholar (fundamentalist' aside) who
actually believe either genealogy is purporting to represent the entire
male-line descent to Joseph.

Think about it. A thousand years and only 12 generations? Doesn't it occur
to you there is something wrong there?

Have you ever wondered why only TWO generations were born in Egypt in 430
years? That doesn't strike you as perhaps .... unusual in some way? And
then you're postulating that from David to Joseph is how many generations
and how many years?
This kind of literal reading is for those who cannot be bothered to
actually understand the underlying issues.
Will

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