Friday, 19 November, 2004
Hello Kelsey, siabair, et al.,
In previous threads, there has been discussion of the Gaelic
genealogies of the Lamont family as to the correct chronology and
identification of the individuals involved [1]. The specific
genealogies relating to the Lamonts (or Clan Lamont) are the
following:
' Genelach Clann Ladmann.
Roibert mac
Donchadh mic
Eoin mic
Giollacoluim mic
Ladmainn mic
Giollacoluim mic
Fearchair mic
Duinsleibe mic
Aeda Alain .i. Buirche mic
Anradan mic
Flaithbertaigh mic
Murcertach mic
Domnall mic
Murcertach mic
Neill Glundubh ' [2]
' Genelach meic Ladhmainn.
Eoin m Donnchadha m Gille epscuip m Roibeird m Donnchadha m
Eoin m Giolla colaim m Ladhmainn m Gilla colaim m Ferchair m
Duinnslebhe, Sunn condregait et clann t-Suibhne. ' [3]
The first genealogy traces the descent from Niall 'Glundubh'
(d. 919) to Robert mac Duncan Lamont, who is called Robert 'Duncan
macLagmayn' in the Scots Peerage record concerning the dispensation
for his marriage to Agnes 'of the Isles', aka MacDonald [4]. The
second genealogy adds three further generations, tracing the
descent to John mac Duncan Lamont who likewise received a
dispensation in 1466 for marrying one Agnes MacDonald [5].
The pedigree detailed below gives the descent from Ferchar mac
Duinnslebhe, grandfather of Ladhman who gave his name to the family,
down to the above mentioned John mac Duncan Lamont (fl. 1466).
Importantly, these names can be readily identified with links as
shown to the Campbells (Loch Awe and Ardkinglas) and the MacDonalds,
which connections also explain the reasons why the dispensations
were required.
Sir John [Eoin] mac Gillecolum Lamont
_______________I_________________
I I
Archibald = Isabella Duncan mac Eoin
Campbell I Lamont
_______I__________ _______________I___
I I I I
Helen Sir Colin I Robert = Agnes
= Duncan 'Iongantach' I mac Duncan I <disp.
E of Lennox = Mariota I Lamont I 1397>
____________I_____ I I
I I I I I
{siblings} Colin = Christina Gillespic
Campbell I <disp. 1396> mac Robert
of Ardkinglas I Lamont
_______________I________ I
I I I I
Agnes Iain Duncan Duncan
= Sir Patrick 'Riabhiach' Campbell mac Gillespic
Houstoun laird of Lamont
I Ardkinglas ________I
I I I
V I John = Agnes
V mac Duncan MacDonald
Lamont <disp 1466>
Other than the slight generational difference shown in the
descent of Colin Campbell of Ardkinglas and his wife Christina from
Sir John [Eoin] mac Gillecolum Lamont, the Campbell and MacDonald
genealogies from Scots Peerage and what details we have on the
dispensations mesh with the Gaelic genealogies for the Lamonts.
Any comment, criticism or relevant documentation (pro or con) is
of course welcome.
Cheers,
John *
NOTES
[1] See J. Ravilious, <'Agnes of the Isles' , and Lamont of
Inveryne: a Proposed Solution>, SGM, 18 June 2004; also more
recently, Kelsey J. Williams and siabair, <Re: Lamont of that
Ilk>, SGM, Sept. 2004
[2] "Genelach Clann Ladmann", Gaelic MS. of 1450 (1467) as printed
in Skene's "Celtic Scotland", Maclachlan of Scotland
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/scotland.htm
[3] "Genelach meic Ladhmainn", MS 23 D 17, Royal Irish Academy,
The O'Clery Book of Genealogies, (Printed in the Analecta
Hibernica, vol. 18 - 1961), Maclachlan of Scotland
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/scotland.htm
[4] SP V:40, sub _Lords of the Isles_ .
[5] Richard Borthwick, <Re: Agnes of the Isles (Macdonold) Wife of
John Montgomery>, SGM, 6 August 1998. Documentation cited
includes Acts of the Lords of the Isles 1336-1493 (Edinburgh,
1986), pp. 293-295
_____________________________________________________
1 Ferchar mac Duinnslebhe
----------------------------------------
Father: Duinsleibe mac Aeda Alain
chief of Clan Lamont
' Ferchar mac Duinnslebhe ', genealogy of Clan Lamont
' Genelach Clann Ladmann.
Roibert mac
Donchadh mic
Eoin mic
Giollacoluim mic
Ladmainn mic
Giollacoluim mic
Fearchair mic
Duinsleibe mic
Aeda Alain .i. Buirche mic
Anradan mic
Flaithbertaigh mic
Murcertach mic
Domnall mic
Murcertach mic
Neill Glundubh '[1]
' Genelach meic Ladhmainn.
Eoin m Donnchadha m Gille epscuip m Roibeird m Donnchadha m
Eoin m Giolla colaim m Ladhmainn m Gilla colaim m Ferchair m
Duinnslebhe, Sunn condregait et clann t-Suibhne. '[2]
Children: Gillecolum
Somerled mac Fearchair [ancestor of the MacSorleys]
1.1 Gillecolum mac Fearchair
----------------------------------------
chief of Clan Lamont
' Gillecolum mac Fearchair ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [1] [2]
Children: Ladhman
1.1.1 Ladhman mac Gilla colaim
----------------------------------------
chief of Clan Lamont
' Ladhman m Gilla colaim ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [1] [2]
Children: Gillecolum
1.1.1.1 Gillecolum mac Ladhmainn
----------------------------------------
chief of Clan Lamont
' Gillecolum mac Ladhmainn ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [1] [2]
Children: Sir John mac Gillecolum
1.1.1.1.1 Sir John mac Gillecolum Lamont
----------------------------------------
chief of Clan Lamont
' Eoin mac Giolla colaim ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [1] [2]
Children: Isabella
Duncan mac Eoin
1.1.1.1.1.1 Isabella Lamont[3]
----------------------------------------
Spouse: Archibald Campbell
Death: abt 1390
Father: Sir Colin Campbell (ca1288-~1340)
Mother: Helen Menteith
Children: Sir Colin 'Iongantach' (ca1336-~1413)
Helen
1.1.1.1.1.2 Duncan mac Eoin Lamont
----------------------------------------
chief of Clan Lamont
'Donnchadh mac Eoin ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [1] [2]
Children: Christina
Robert mac Duncan
1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Christina Lamont
----------------------------------------
Spouse: Colin Campbell of Ardkinglas[4]
Death: 1434
Father: Sir Colin 'Iongantach' Campbell [See Above]
Mother: Mariota Campbell
Marr: 1396
Children: Agnes, m. Sir Patrick Houstoun of Houstoun
Iain ' Riabhiach ', lord of Ardkinglas
Duncan
1.1.1.1.1.2.2 Robert mac Duncan Lamont
----------------------------------------
of Inveryne
' Robert mac Donnchadha ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [2]
Spouse: Agnes 'of the Isles' MacDonald
Father: Donald MacDonald, Lord of the Isles (~1355-1423)
Mother: Margaret Leslie (-<1441)
Marr: ca 1397[4]
Children: Gillespie mac Robert
1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1 Gillespie mac Robert Lamont
----------------------------------------
' Gillespie mac Roibeird ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [2]
Children: Duncan mac Gillespie
1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1 Duncan mac Gillespie Lamont
----------------------------------------
' Donnchad mac Gille epscuip ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [2]
Children: John mac Duncan
1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1 John mac Duncan Lamont
----------------------------------------
lord of Inveryne
' Eoin mac Donnchadha ', genealogy of Clan Lamont [2]
' In early days the patronage of the Vicarage of Inverchaolain
belonged to the Chiefs of Clan Lamont, but during the minority of
one of these his guardian wrongfully granted the patronage to the
Monastery of Failefurd in Ayrshire, a community of Trinitarians, or
Trinity Friars, whose Order was instituted by St. John of Malta in
1198. Their office was to redeem slaves, especially Christians,
from the Turks. This Order possessed 14 monasteries in Scotland,
but Inverchaolain seems to have been their only church in
Argyllshire. On 20th July, 1465, Pope Paul II restored the
patronage to John Lamont of Inveryne.'[5]
Re: his wife:
' Agnes who m. John Lamont of Inveryne (marriage dispensation
1466) '[6]
Spouse: Agnes MacDonald
Father: Sir John MacDonald
Marr: 1466[6]
1. "Genelach Clann Ladmann [Genealogy of the Clan Lamont],"
Gaelic MS. of 1450 (1467) as printed in Skene's "Celtic
Scotland", Maclachlan of Scotland
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/scotland.htm
2. "Genelach meic Ladhmainn [Genealogy of the Clan Lamont],"
MS 23 D 17, Royal Irish Academy, The O'Clery Book of
Genealogies, (Printed in the Analecta Hibernica, vol. 18 - 1961),
Maclachlan of Scotland,
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/scotland.htm
3. Andrew B. W. MacEwen, telephone conference re: (1) Isabel de
Dunbar, wife of Roger fitz John of Warkworth," (2) Christina
Stewart, countess of Dunbar; (3) Cecilia, dau. of John fitz
Robert of Wark, reference made to his publications on The Seven
Countesses, and 1999 article on Alexander Sutherland of Dunbeath
and his mistress, Catherine Chalmers, 28 October 2004, notes,
library of John P. Ravilious.
4. Sir James Balfour Paul, ed., "The Scots Peerage,"
5. "Argyll Online," Inverchaolain,
http://www.argyllonline.co.uk/pages/tow ... olain.html.
6. Richard Borthwick, "Re: Agnes of the Isles (Macdonold) Wife of
John Montgomery," 6 August 1998, paper copy: library of John
Ravilious, cites >>[*Acts of the Lords of the Isles 1336-1493*
(Ediburgh, 1986), pp.293-295.
7. "Genelach Clann Somairle [Genealogy of the Clan MacSorley],"
Gaelic MS. of 1450 (1467) as printed in Skene's "Celtic Scotland",
Maclachlan of Scotland,
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/scotland.htm
* John P. Ravilious
Lamont of Inveryne and the Gaelic genealogies
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Williams Family
Re: Lamont of Inveryne and the Gaelic genealogies
Hello,
The pedigree as you present it looks fine to me. Have you had the
opportunity of examining _An Inventory of Lamont Papers, 1231-1897_, ed.
by Sir Norman Lamont of Knockdow, Bt. (Edinburgh: Scottish Record
Society, 1914-1918)? I haven't seen it myself but I suppose from the
title that it must be a partial publication of the Lamont charter chest
which ought surely to flesh out what we know about this family.
Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams
Therav3@aol.com wrote:
The pedigree as you present it looks fine to me. Have you had the
opportunity of examining _An Inventory of Lamont Papers, 1231-1897_, ed.
by Sir Norman Lamont of Knockdow, Bt. (Edinburgh: Scottish Record
Society, 1914-1918)? I haven't seen it myself but I suppose from the
title that it must be a partial publication of the Lamont charter chest
which ought surely to flesh out what we know about this family.
Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams
Therav3@aol.com wrote:
Friday, 19 November, 2004
Hello Kelsey, siabair, et al.,
In previous threads, there has been discussion of the Gaelic
genealogies of the Lamont family as to the correct chronology and
identification of the individuals involved [1]. The specific
genealogies relating to the Lamonts (or Clan Lamont) are the
following:
' Genelach Clann Ladmann.
Roibert mac
Donchadh mic
Eoin mic
Giollacoluim mic
Ladmainn mic
Giollacoluim mic
Fearchair mic
Duinsleibe mic
Aeda Alain .i. Buirche mic
Anradan mic
Flaithbertaigh mic
Murcertach mic
Domnall mic
Murcertach mic
Neill Glundubh ' [2]
' Genelach meic Ladhmainn.
Eoin m Donnchadha m Gille epscuip m Roibeird m Donnchadha m
Eoin m Giolla colaim m Ladhmainn m Gilla colaim m Ferchair m
Duinnslebhe, Sunn condregait et clann t-Suibhne. ' [3]
The first genealogy traces the descent from Niall 'Glundubh'
(d. 919) to Robert mac Duncan Lamont, who is called Robert 'Duncan
macLagmayn' in the Scots Peerage record concerning the dispensation
for his marriage to Agnes 'of the Isles', aka MacDonald [4]. The
second genealogy adds three further generations, tracing the
descent to John mac Duncan Lamont who likewise received a
dispensation in 1466 for marrying one Agnes MacDonald [5].
The pedigree detailed below gives the descent from Ferchar mac
Duinnslebhe, grandfather of Ladhman who gave his name to the family,
down to the above mentioned John mac Duncan Lamont (fl. 1466).
Importantly, these names can be readily identified with links as
shown to the Campbells (Loch Awe and Ardkinglas) and the MacDonalds,
which connections also explain the reasons why the dispensations
were required.
Sir John [Eoin] mac Gillecolum Lamont
_______________I_________________
I I
Archibald = Isabella Duncan mac Eoin
Campbell I Lamont
_______I__________ _______________I___
I I I I
Helen Sir Colin I Robert = Agnes
= Duncan 'Iongantach' I mac Duncan I <disp.
E of Lennox = Mariota I Lamont I 1397
____________I_____ I I
I I I I I
{siblings} Colin = Christina Gillespic
Campbell I <disp. 1396> mac Robert
of Ardkinglas I Lamont
_______________I________ I
I I I I
Agnes Iain Duncan Duncan
= Sir Patrick 'Riabhiach' Campbell mac Gillespic
Houstoun laird of Lamont
I Ardkinglas ________I
I I I
V I John = Agnes
V mac Duncan MacDonald
Lamont <disp 1466
Other than the slight generational difference shown in the
descent of Colin Campbell of Ardkinglas and his wife Christina from
Sir John [Eoin] mac Gillecolum Lamont, the Campbell and MacDonald
genealogies from Scots Peerage and what details we have on the
dispensations mesh with the Gaelic genealogies for the Lamonts.
Any comment, criticism or relevant documentation (pro or con) is
of course welcome.
Cheers,
John *
snip
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siabair ~^~
Re: Lamont of Inveryne and the Gaelic genealogies
Therav3@aol.com wrote:
John
The later portion of the Gaelic genealogy may dovetail quite nicely but I
now have doubts on the earlier portion ascending from the Lamonts (and
their collaterals the MacSweeneys, MacLachlans, etc) through Anradan to the
Uí Néill of Ireland.
In the article usually cited in support of this genealogy ('Family Origins
in Cowal and Knapdale', W D H Sellar, Scottish Studies, volume 15, part
one) Sellar fails to consider the migration of the MacSweeneys from
Scotland to Ireland in the fourteenth century. As the genealogy is first
known to us from the late fourteenth century Irish books of Ballymote and
Lecan and is absent in proto-form from earlier works it looks to be a
fabrication by which the Scottish MacSweeneys were taken into the genealogy
of the Irish Uí Néill among whom they now lived. The next place we find the
genealogy is in the Gaelic MS of 1450 (1467) in Scotland but as I recall
Sellar also fails to mention that this contains a variant non-Irish
genealogy for the Lamonts that ascends through Anradan to a Neillgusa of
Lochaber in Scotland rather than the Uí Néill of Ireland. More details at:
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/anradan.htm
So I think we need to consider the genealogy as authentic in its later part
(Lamonts), authentic in its earlier part (Uí Néill) but doubtful in its
middle part (the generations around Anradan).
--
SIABAIR (Old Irish) /shabba/ 'ghost', 'phantom', 'spectre'
In previous threads, there has been discussion of the Gaelic
genealogies of the Lamont family as to the correct chronology and
identification of the individuals involved...
John
The later portion of the Gaelic genealogy may dovetail quite nicely but I
now have doubts on the earlier portion ascending from the Lamonts (and
their collaterals the MacSweeneys, MacLachlans, etc) through Anradan to the
Uí Néill of Ireland.
In the article usually cited in support of this genealogy ('Family Origins
in Cowal and Knapdale', W D H Sellar, Scottish Studies, volume 15, part
one) Sellar fails to consider the migration of the MacSweeneys from
Scotland to Ireland in the fourteenth century. As the genealogy is first
known to us from the late fourteenth century Irish books of Ballymote and
Lecan and is absent in proto-form from earlier works it looks to be a
fabrication by which the Scottish MacSweeneys were taken into the genealogy
of the Irish Uí Néill among whom they now lived. The next place we find the
genealogy is in the Gaelic MS of 1450 (1467) in Scotland but as I recall
Sellar also fails to mention that this contains a variant non-Irish
genealogy for the Lamonts that ascends through Anradan to a Neillgusa of
Lochaber in Scotland rather than the Uí Néill of Ireland. More details at:
http://members.aol.com/lochlan/anradan.htm
So I think we need to consider the genealogy as authentic in its later part
(Lamonts), authentic in its earlier part (Uí Néill) but doubtful in its
middle part (the generations around Anradan).
--
SIABAIR (Old Irish) /shabba/ 'ghost', 'phantom', 'spectre'
-
Doug McDonald
Re: Lamont of Inveryne and the Gaelic genealogies
siabair ~^~ wrote:
This is very interesting, as it would provide a separate
path to Niall of the Nine Hostages to a substantial
subset of the Scottish nobility, through the Campbells.
I don't know how many denizens of s.g.m. are in these lines,
but I am. Of course, the recently mentioned "suggested" line
through the Bruce would get far more people (including these).
I take it from the discussion that this line is currently
considered "iffy" if not downright bad.
Is this correct?
Doug McDonald
Therav3@aol.com wrote:
In previous threads, there has been discussion of the Gaelic
genealogies of the Lamont family as to the correct chronology and
identification of the individuals involved...
This is very interesting, as it would provide a separate
path to Niall of the Nine Hostages to a substantial
subset of the Scottish nobility, through the Campbells.
I don't know how many denizens of s.g.m. are in these lines,
but I am. Of course, the recently mentioned "suggested" line
through the Bruce would get far more people (including these).
I take it from the discussion that this line is currently
considered "iffy" if not downright bad.
Is this correct?
Doug McDonald
-
siabair ~^~
Re: Lamont of Inveryne and the Gaelic genealogies
Doug McDonald wrote:
I would say it is unproven. John cuts it off at Ferchar mac Duinnslebhe
(late 12th century) which I think is about right as the lines of the
prominent late medieval Cowal and Knapdale families are gathered and ascend
in one line beyond this point.
We can perhaps see two stages here. In the first stage the prominent
thirteenth century families of Cowal and Knapdale (Lamonts Mac Sweeneys,
MacLachlans, MacEwans) create a common ancestry ascending to Niallgusa of
Lochaber that survives as variant in the Gaelic MS of 1450 (1467). In the
second stage one of these families (MacSweeney) migrates to the north of
Ireland in the fourteenth century and the genealogy gets taken in to the Uí
Néill genealogy shared by the prominent families of the north of Ireland.
--
SIABAIR (Old Irish) /shabba/ 'ghost', 'phantom', 'spectre'
This is very interesting, as it would provide a separate
path to Niall of the Nine Hostages to a substantial
subset of the Scottish nobility, through the Campbells.
I don't know how many denizens of s.g.m. are in these lines,
but I am. Of course, the recently mentioned "suggested" line
through the Bruce would get far more people (including these).
I take it from the discussion that this line is currently
considered "iffy" if not downright bad.
Is this correct?
I would say it is unproven. John cuts it off at Ferchar mac Duinnslebhe
(late 12th century) which I think is about right as the lines of the
prominent late medieval Cowal and Knapdale families are gathered and ascend
in one line beyond this point.
We can perhaps see two stages here. In the first stage the prominent
thirteenth century families of Cowal and Knapdale (Lamonts Mac Sweeneys,
MacLachlans, MacEwans) create a common ancestry ascending to Niallgusa of
Lochaber that survives as variant in the Gaelic MS of 1450 (1467). In the
second stage one of these families (MacSweeney) migrates to the north of
Ireland in the fourteenth century and the genealogy gets taken in to the Uí
Néill genealogy shared by the prominent families of the north of Ireland.
--
SIABAIR (Old Irish) /shabba/ 'ghost', 'phantom', 'spectre'
-
John Ravilious
Re: Lamont of Inveryne and the Gaelic genealogies
Monday, 22 November, 2004
Dear Kelsey,
Thanks for that reference. In fact, I have not seen the Lamont
Papers source you cite; however, it does appear to be in the
collections of the LOC in Washington. I've added this to my
'must-see' list, and (unless someone else gets access beforehand) will
post any relevant materials I find there as soon as I can.
Cheers,
John
gkkwilliams@cowboy.net (Williams Family) wrote in message news:<419E9D86.7070905@cowboy.net>...
Dear Kelsey,
Thanks for that reference. In fact, I have not seen the Lamont
Papers source you cite; however, it does appear to be in the
collections of the LOC in Washington. I've added this to my
'must-see' list, and (unless someone else gets access beforehand) will
post any relevant materials I find there as soon as I can.
Cheers,
John
gkkwilliams@cowboy.net (Williams Family) wrote in message news:<419E9D86.7070905@cowboy.net>...
Hello,
The pedigree as you present it looks fine to me. Have you had the
opportunity of examining _An Inventory of Lamont Papers, 1231-1897_, ed.
by Sir Norman Lamont of Knockdow, Bt. (Edinburgh: Scottish Record
Society, 1914-1918)? I haven't seen it myself but I suppose from the
title that it must be a partial publication of the Lamont charter chest
which ought surely to flesh out what we know about this family.
Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams
Therav3@aol.com wrote:
Friday, 19 November, 2004
Hello Kelsey, siabair, et al.,
In previous threads, there has been discussion of the Gaelic
genealogies of the Lamont family as to the correct chronology and
identification of the individuals involved [1]. The specific
genealogies relating to the Lamonts (or Clan Lamont) are the
following:
' Genelach Clann Ladmann.
Roibert mac
Donchadh mic
Eoin mic
Giollacoluim mic
Ladmainn mic
Giollacoluim mic
Fearchair mic
Duinsleibe mic
Aeda Alain .i. Buirche mic
Anradan mic
Flaithbertaigh mic
Murcertach mic
Domnall mic
Murcertach mic
Neill Glundubh ' [2]
' Genelach meic Ladhmainn.
Eoin m Donnchadha m Gille epscuip m Roibeird m Donnchadha m
Eoin m Giolla colaim m Ladhmainn m Gilla colaim m Ferchair m
Duinnslebhe, Sunn condregait et clann t-Suibhne. ' [3]
The first genealogy traces the descent from Niall 'Glundubh'
(d. 919) to Robert mac Duncan Lamont, who is called Robert 'Duncan
macLagmayn' in the Scots Peerage record concerning the dispensation
for his marriage to Agnes 'of the Isles', aka MacDonald [4]. The
second genealogy adds three further generations, tracing the
descent to John mac Duncan Lamont who likewise received a
dispensation in 1466 for marrying one Agnes MacDonald [5].
The pedigree detailed below gives the descent from Ferchar mac
Duinnslebhe, grandfather of Ladhman who gave his name to the family,
down to the above mentioned John mac Duncan Lamont (fl. 1466).
Importantly, these names can be readily identified with links as
shown to the Campbells (Loch Awe and Ardkinglas) and the MacDonalds,
which connections also explain the reasons why the dispensations
were required.
Sir John [Eoin] mac Gillecolum Lamont
_______________I_________________
I I
Archibald = Isabella Duncan mac Eoin
Campbell I Lamont
_______I__________ _______________I___
I I I I
Helen Sir Colin I Robert = Agnes
= Duncan 'Iongantach' I mac Duncan I <disp.
E of Lennox = Mariota I Lamont I 1397
____________I_____ I I
I I I I I
{siblings} Colin = Christina Gillespic
Campbell I <disp. 1396> mac Robert
of Ardkinglas I Lamont
_______________I________ I
I I I I
Agnes Iain Duncan Duncan
= Sir Patrick 'Riabhiach' Campbell mac Gillespic
Houstoun laird of Lamont
I Ardkinglas ________I
I I I
V I John = Agnes
V mac Duncan MacDonald
Lamont <disp 1466
Other than the slight generational difference shown in the
descent of Colin Campbell of Ardkinglas and his wife Christina from
Sir John [Eoin] mac Gillecolum Lamont, the Campbell and MacDonald
genealogies from Scots Peerage and what details we have on the
dispensations mesh with the Gaelic genealogies for the Lamonts.
Any comment, criticism or relevant documentation (pro or con) is
of course welcome.
Cheers,
John *
snip