Ralph de Hull (liv. 1302) of Child Okeford, Dorset and East

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Ralph de Hull (liv. 1302) of Child Okeford, Dorset and East

Legg inn av Robert Forrest » 19 nov 2004 22:41:02

I am trying to find the ancestry of Ralph de Hull/Hulle (liv. 1302) of Child Okeford, Dorset. His apparent son, Sir Robert de Hull
of Child Okeford had a daughter and heir Catherine Hull ( -1361) who married (1) Sir Andrew Turberville, and (2) Sir Robert Latimer
(1315-1361). Ralph also had property connections at East Stoke, Somerset, near Montacute. Robert de Hull had a cousin John de
Rochford. Was Ralph related to the Robert Hull who was Justice of the Common Bench, and had a son Robert, of Spaxton, Somerset? Many
Hulls and Hills in the Public Records, where the indices often treat them as the same surname.

Some background is attached below.

Thanks for any help.

Robert Forrest

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Hutchins' Dorset (Third Edition, 1860-74, W. Shipp and J. W. Hodson, eds., 4 vols.) has under Child Ockford:

"The most ancient lord we are certain of is Robert de Hull, who presented to a moiety of the rectory, 1317; for it is not known
which moiety of the manor Roger de Stocks, who presented to a moiety 1297, and Richard de Wyckewerne, who presented 1305, were lords
of; the last probably might be of Mr. Seymer's manor. 20 Edw. I. Ralph de Hull held half a knight's fee in Child Acford of William
Fitzwalter and he of the King; and 31 Edw. I. he was assessed 20s. for half a fee in Chyld Ocford (Subsidy Roll, Pub. Rec.).
Catharine daughter and heir of Sir Robert de Hull, lord of a moiety of this manor, and the manor of East Pulham, brought it to her
husband Sir Robert Latimer of Duntish, who died 35 Edw. III. 14 Hen. IV. John, eldest son and heir of Robert Latimer, knt. confirms
the estate which Matilda, who was wife of John Hulle, knt. and now wife of the said Robert, had in the manors of Child Ackford, and
a moiety of the advowson, and in the manor of Divelishe..."

Under his discussion for Duntish, Buckland Newton, Hutchins has: "In 34 Edward III, Catherine, in her widowhood, confirms to
Margaret her daughter all her lands, with homage and service in Rotherhead, which descended to her by hereditary right from Sir
Robert de Hull her father; remainder to Robert her brother, witnesses Radnor(?) de Rochford, Richard de Turberville, Roger de
Attehall, John Strode, etc. The arms of Hull were Or, a bull passant, labelled argent.

"...36E3 John de Rochford, cousin of Robert de Hull, knt. grants to Robert, son of Robert Latimer, Knt. the mediety of the manors of
Stoket, near Monteacute, in Somersetshire, and Childakford, with knight's fees, advowsons of churches, etc, remainder to Margaret
his sister. 9R2 he and his wife, with the consent of Sir William Peche, knt. her father, grant to Sir William Attehall their
services and escheat of the whole tenement...at Winterbourne..."

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The Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem include entries for both a Dorset and a Somerset i.p.m. for Catherine:

"...By inquisition taken at Dorchester before John Rodeston, escheator, on Tuesday next after the feast of St. Richard, 5R2...
Katherine, who had been the wife of Robert Latymer, deceased, was found to have held a moiety of the manor of Child Akford, together
with the advowson of a moiety of the same vill...and that she died on Tuesday next before the feast of St. Leonard, 35E3, after
which there entered a certain William Turbervill, her son and heir, by Andrew Turbervill, knight, her first husband, aged 12 years;
that the said William died without heirs; that John Rocheford entered the said moiety, etc. as kinsman and next heir of the said
William, and thereof enfeoffed Robert, son of Robert Latymer, in fee simple; and that William Latymer as next uncle of the said
Robert, occupied and received the profits of the said moiety, etc."

and

"...before the same escheator, at Monteacute, co. Somerset, on Thursday next before the feast of the Nativity of St. John the
Baptist, 5R2, it was found that Katherine, who had been the wife of Robert Latymer, chivaler, held the manor of Stoket juxta
Monteacute, with appurtenances, of John Streat, knight, by service of a pound of pepper, value per annum in all issues four marks,
which manor had passed, as mentioned in the former inquisition, to Robert Latymer, and William Latymer his uncle occupied it and
received the profits thereof."

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Hutchins' list of patrons for the church of Acford Superior also is helpful, and shows that a moiety of the advowson also belonged
to the Hulls:

Year Patron

1297 Roger de Stocks

1305 Richard de Wyckewane

1317 Robert de Hull

1331 Walter de Staunford and Anastasia de Hull

1362 Robert, son of Robert Latimer

1362 The Queen

1376 William Latimer

1397 Robert Latimer, knt.

1418 Robert Latimer, knt.

1433 John Latimer, esq. (again in 1457)

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Finally, from Somerset Feet of Fines:

"...quinzaine of St. John Baptist, 1 E3 [1327-1328]; betw. Robert de Hulle, querent, and William Quarel and Robert de Bannebury,
deforciants; for (land in Dorset) and for the manor of Est Coker [East Coker, Somerset]; and afterwards in the quinzaine of Easter
in 4 E3 betw. same parties. Robert de Hulle ackn. right of William and Robert de Bannebury as by his gift. For this William and
Robert gr. the same of Robert de Hulle for life, and after his decease to remain to Walter de Staunford and Anastasia his wife and
their issue; and if they die w/o issue then to remain to the right heirs of Robert de Hulle."
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