In Dec 1753 Jonas Christophersen (Sannøe) and Eli Larsdatter (Ørdal) were
married. Anders Jonasen was born in May 1754. Why was he not named
Christopher (his father was the son of Christopher)? Anders being the
first born would have been named after his father's father. Any suggestions?
Jonas and Eli also had another son named Jacob. Jacob Jonasen's first born
was named Jonas (after his grandfather) Jacobsen (son of Jacob) so in this
case the naming was in keeping with the existing rules.
naming practice
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Re: naming practice
Maybe the family wasn't big on the naming practice.
Looking at their children they didn't have a Lars nor a
Christopher, and neither did they have a Mari, they did however
have a Margrethe.
If you look at Christopher, he didn't have any sibling named Amund
which he should if the naming practice had been followed and neither
did he have a sibling Jon.
However are we sure there hasn't been a child named and died
not made it to the records?
His brother Ole didn't follow the naming practise either. He had no
Christopher
nor a Jens. The same thing with sister Mari as well as Anne and Ingeborg,
Anniken however did on the fathers sides, but not on the females.
The naming practice is useful to know about, but not always a sure thing.
In my father's family though they often did, the important thing was to
have children named with at least the same first letter.
Btw how is you line back to these people, seeing we must be related.
Anne
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Looking at their children they didn't have a Lars nor a
Christopher, and neither did they have a Mari, they did however
have a Margrethe.
If you look at Christopher, he didn't have any sibling named Amund
which he should if the naming practice had been followed and neither
did he have a sibling Jon.
However are we sure there hasn't been a child named and died
not made it to the records?
His brother Ole didn't follow the naming practise either. He had no
Christopher
nor a Jens. The same thing with sister Mari as well as Anne and Ingeborg,
Anniken however did on the fathers sides, but not on the females.
The naming practice is useful to know about, but not always a sure thing.
In my father's family though they often did, the important thing was to
have children named with at least the same first letter.
Btw how is you line back to these people, seeing we must be related.
Anne
"Gordon Anderson" <ganderson@webjogger.net> skrev i melding
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In Dec 1753 Jonas Christophersen (Sannøe) and Eli Larsdatter (Ørdal) were
married. Anders Jonasen was born in May 1754. Why was he not named
Christopher (his father was the son of Christopher)? Anders being the
first born would have been named after his father's father. Any
suggestions?
Jonas and Eli also had another son named Jacob. Jacob Jonasen's first born
was named Jonas (after his grandfather) Jacobsen (son of Jacob) so in this
case the naming was in keeping with the existing rules.
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Ivar S. Ertesvåg
Re: naming practice
[I do not find the original message - this is quoted from another reply:]
The "existing rules" were not strict. They are mainly based on personal
impressions rather than real investigations of the sources. There seems
not to be any quantitative surveys of to which degree these "rules" have
been followed.
Exceptions (if the word can be used) are numerous, and you have found
one of these.
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In Dec 1753 Jonas Christophersen (Sannøe) and Eli Larsdatter (Ørdal) were
married. Anders Jonasen was born in May 1754. Why was he not named
Christopher (his father was the son of Christopher)? Anders being the
first born would have been named after his father's father. Any
suggestions?
Jonas and Eli also had another son named Jacob. Jacob Jonasen's first born
was named Jonas (after his grandfather) Jacobsen (son of Jacob) so in this
case the naming was in keeping with the existing rules.
The "existing rules" were not strict. They are mainly based on personal
impressions rather than real investigations of the sources. There seems
not to be any quantitative surveys of to which degree these "rules" have
been followed.
Exceptions (if the word can be used) are numerous, and you have found
one of these.
Re: naming practice
I think it also should be said that to give your child another persons name,
is an honour to the owner of the name. So to whom did you want to give that
honour - and whom did you NOT want to give that honour. And my be it could
be reasons to give your child the name of some rich uncle or someone who did
not have their own children.
Bjørn S.
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is an honour to the owner of the name. So to whom did you want to give that
honour - and whom did you NOT want to give that honour. And my be it could
be reasons to give your child the name of some rich uncle or someone who did
not have their own children.
Bjørn S.
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Maybe the family wasn't big on the naming practice.
Looking at their children they didn't have a Lars nor a
Christopher, and neither did they have a Mari, they did however
have a Margrethe.
If you look at Christopher, he didn't have any sibling named Amund
which he should if the naming practice had been followed and neither
did he have a sibling Jon.
However are we sure there hasn't been a child named and died
not made it to the records?
His brother Ole didn't follow the naming practise either. He had no
Christopher
nor a Jens. The same thing with sister Mari as well as Anne and Ingeborg,
Anniken however did on the fathers sides, but not on the females.
The naming practice is useful to know about, but not always a sure thing.
In my father's family though they often did, the important thing was to
have children named with at least the same first letter.
Btw how is you line back to these people, seeing we must be related.
Anne
"Gordon Anderson" <ganderson@webjogger.net> skrev i melding
news:4314a04a_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
In Dec 1753 Jonas Christophersen (Sannøe) and Eli Larsdatter (Ørdal) were
married. Anders Jonasen was born in May 1754. Why was he not named
Christopher (his father was the son of Christopher)? Anders being the
first born would have been named after his father's father. Any
suggestions?
Jonas and Eli also had another son named Jacob. Jacob Jonasen's first
born
was named Jonas (after his grandfather) Jacobsen (son of Jacob) so in
this
case the naming was in keeping with the existing rules.
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Ja
Re: naming practice
Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:02:51 -0400, "Gordon Anderson"
<ganderson@webjogger.net>; <4314a04a_1@newsfeed.slurp.net>;
<soc.genealogy.nordic>:
As I am registering the church records of the same area (Hvaler, as I
can see from the farms' names) some 100 years later, there is no
indication that using grandparents' names was a general practice on
these islands.
The "rules" are no rules.
/Jan
<janpharo@supernett.no>
<ganderson@webjogger.net>; <4314a04a_1@newsfeed.slurp.net>;
<soc.genealogy.nordic>:
In Dec 1753 Jonas Christophersen (Sannøe) and Eli Larsdatter (Ørdal) were
married. Anders Jonasen was born in May 1754. Why was he not named
Christopher (his father was the son of Christopher)? Anders being the
first born would have been named after his father's father. Any suggestions?
Jonas and Eli also had another son named Jacob. Jacob Jonasen's first born
was named Jonas (after his grandfather) Jacobsen (son of Jacob) so in this
case the naming was in keeping with the existing rules.
As others have said, they just didn't chose the father's father's name.
As I am registering the church records of the same area (Hvaler, as I
can see from the farms' names) some 100 years later, there is no
indication that using grandparents' names was a general practice on
these islands.
The "rules" are no rules.
--
/Jan
<janpharo@supernett.no>
Re: naming practice
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:05:12 +0200, "Anne Hildrum"
<anne.hildrum@chello.no> wrote:
In some places, you should not name up living persons, so if the
grandfather Christopher still lived at that time, he was not named.
Often then great grandfather or a dead uncle was named instead.
(Unless also mother's father was dead, then this person would be named
up before great grandfather.)
Also, if the mother was married once before and the previous husband
did die, this person had the privilege of being named first.
<anne.hildrum@chello.no> wrote:
Maybe the family wasn't big on the naming practice.
Looking at their children they didn't have a Lars nor a
Christopher, and neither did they have a Mari, they did however
have a Margrethe.
If you look at Christopher, he didn't have any sibling named Amund
which he should if the naming practice had been followed and neither
did he have a sibling Jon.
In some places, you should not name up living persons, so if the
grandfather Christopher still lived at that time, he was not named.
Often then great grandfather or a dead uncle was named instead.
(Unless also mother's father was dead, then this person would be named
up before great grandfather.)
Also, if the mother was married once before and the previous husband
did die, this person had the privilege of being named first.
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Re: naming practice
Did you ever consider that this child WAS named for the father? 
Stranger things have happened in families.
Seriously, I wouldn't call this a rule, just a common practice.
"Gordon Anderson" <ganderson@webjogger.net> wrote in message
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Stranger things have happened in families.
Seriously, I wouldn't call this a rule, just a common practice.
"Gordon Anderson" <ganderson@webjogger.net> wrote in message
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In Dec 1753 Jonas Christophersen (Sannøe) and Eli Larsdatter (Ørdal) were
married. Anders Jonasen was born in May 1754. Why was he not named
Christopher (his father was the son of Christopher)? Anders being the
first born would have been named after his father's father. Any
suggestions?
Jonas and Eli also had another son named Jacob. Jacob Jonasen's first born
was named Jonas (after his grandfather) Jacobsen (son of Jacob) so in this
case the naming was in keeping with the existing rules.