Disk Defragmenter update

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Lawrence Blake

Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av Lawrence Blake » 14 okt 2004 00:13:31

I am always amazed at the knowledge and experience that is available on the
genealogical newsgroups and that is so readily shared. Thanks to everyone
who replied to my query about a problem that has been troubling me for
months.

The first remedy that I tried was that suggested by Steve Dawson to restart
in safe mode. I did that, and it worked!! So I had no need to try any of the
other remedies.

Thanks again to all for your replies and suggestions.

Larry
Toronto.

Dave Hinz

Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av Dave Hinz » 14 okt 2004 16:15:22

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:13:31 -0400, Lawrence Blake <lawrence.blake@sympatico.ca> wrote:
The first remedy that I tried was that suggested by Steve Dawson to restart
in safe mode. I did that, and it worked!! So I had no need to try any of the
other remedies.

Ah, that seems easier than the "kill everything I can with process
manager" method that I've been using. Thanks for sharing the feedback on
that, and thanks Steve!

Dave Hinz

Steve Dawson

Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av Steve Dawson » 14 okt 2004 16:38:41

Your Welcome!


Steve





"Dave Hinz" <DaveHinz@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:2t7fvqF1t3gbdU5@uni-berlin.de...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:13:31 -0400, Lawrence Blake
lawrence.blake@sympatico.ca> wrote:

The first remedy that I tried was that suggested by Steve Dawson to
restart
in safe mode. I did that, and it worked!! So I had no need to try any of
the
other remedies.

Ah, that seems easier than the "kill everything I can with process
manager" method that I've been using. Thanks for sharing the feedback on
that, and thanks Steve!

Dave Hinz

Robert Heiling

Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 14 okt 2004 22:08:46

Dave Hinz wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:13:31 -0400, Lawrence Blake <lawrence.blake@sympatico.ca> wrote:

The first remedy that I tried was that suggested by Steve Dawson to restart
in safe mode. I did that, and it worked!! So I had no need to try any of the
other remedies.

Ah, that seems easier than the "kill everything I can with process
manager" method that I've been using. Thanks for sharing the feedback on
that, and thanks Steve!

Dave Hinz

Motion seconded, but what I'd find equally/more interesting is whether or not he's now
been able to run Defrag successfully the previous way without going into Safe Mode. If so,
then that defragging somehow fixed the problem.

If not, then the problem is still there. It could be internal to defrag or it could be a
problem that is draining resources in an unnoticed way and effecting applications etc.

Bob

Joe Matthews

Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av Joe Matthews » 14 okt 2004 23:20:41

Motion seconded, but what I'd find equally/more interesting is whether or
not he's now
been able to run Defrag successfully the previous way without going into
Safe Mode. If so,
then that defragging somehow fixed the problem.

If not, then the problem is still there. It could be internal to defrag or
it could be a
problem that is draining resources in an unnoticed way and effecting
applications etc.

Bob

Check the properties, by going to MyComputer, and right clicking on C
drive... Properties, then check the bottom to see if indexing is selected.
If it is, unselect it, and you 'should' be able to complete the defrag.

--
Joe Matthews
Sechelt, BC
Canada

0_Qed

Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av 0_Qed » 15 okt 2004 03:35:47

Robert Heiling wrote:
Motion seconded, but what I'd find equally/more interesting is whether or not he's now
been able to run Defrag successfully the previous way without going into Safe Mode. If so,
then that defragging somehow fixed the problem.

If not, then the problem is still there. It could be internal to defrag or it could be a
problem that is draining resources in an unnoticed way and effecting applications etc.

.....

Assuming W98 ...

FInd a copy of 'defrag' from Win 'ME' ... runs to completion in
reasonable time ...
but ,
you still may need to 'kill' all but a few processes ;
..
or ...
..
Kill two(2) birds with one 'stone' ...
a) buy/install a 2nd HD ,
b) find/DL XXCOPY(freebie for W98), rtfm on 'cloning'
c) the resulting backup, =file_by_file=, 'clone' is defragged by
definition ,
.. , bootable too , provides easy access to all files "within" .
..
.. 'Image' bkups/clones tend not to be defragged , and dont usually
.. provide easy access to the individual files 'within' ,
.. and tend to have 'issues' with src<==>tgt partition sizes.

For Win XP look for 'XXCLONE' ... =not= 'CLONEXX" .
Same author, same quality.

Work 'smarder', not harder.

N

Robert Heiling

Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 15 okt 2004 04:31:18

0_Qed wrote:

Robert Heiling wrote:
Motion seconded, but what I'd find equally/more interesting is whether or not he's now
been able to run Defrag successfully the previous way without going into Safe Mode. If so,
then that defragging somehow fixed the problem.

If not, then the problem is still there. It could be internal to defrag or it could be a
problem that is draining resources in an unnoticed way and effecting applications etc.

Assuming W98 ...

The OP did indicate that he was running Win98.

FInd a copy of 'defrag' from Win 'ME' ... runs to completion in
reasonable time ...
but ,
you still may need to 'kill' all but a few processes ;

The OP has already successful run Defrag by using Safe Mode!.

or ...
.
Kill two(2) birds with one 'stone' ...
a) buy/install a 2nd HD ,
b) find/DL XXCOPY(freebie for W98), rtfm on 'cloning'
c) the resulting backup, =file_by_file=, 'clone' is defragged by
definition ,
. , bootable too , provides easy access to all files "within" .
.
. 'Image' bkups/clones tend not to be defragged , and dont usually
. provide easy access to the individual files 'within' ,
. and tend to have 'issues' with src<==>tgt partition sizes.

I can't believe I'm reading this. Omigawd!<ROFLMAO>

For Win XP look for 'XXCLONE' ... =not= 'CLONEXX" .
Same author, same quality.

Work 'smarder', not harder.

Yeah. Read the thread first (smarder) so you know what & who you're responding to and as to
whether you're beating a dead horse.(sort of like rtfm)

N

You're well-intentioned I suppose, but I'm not the OP with the problem. I was only asking a
follow-up question.

Bob

0_Qed

:-) Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av 0_Qed » 15 okt 2004 11:38:54

Robert Heiling wrote:
....snip...
You're well-intentioned I suppose, but I'm not the OP with the problem. I was only
asking a follow-up question.

:-)
Noted.

Some of 'us' find always 'life' a bit difficult , `eh?

N

Paul Blair

Re: Disk Defragmenter update

Legg inn av Paul Blair » 17 okt 2004 07:32:53

And then do it a second time, in full Windows mode if possible. It's
worth doing...

Paul Blair
Canberra

Lawrence Blake wrote:
I am always amazed at the knowledge and experience that is available on the
genealogical newsgroups and that is so readily shared. Thanks to everyone
who replied to my query about a problem that has been troubling me for
months.

The first remedy that I tried was that suggested by Steve Dawson to restart
in safe mode. I did that, and it worked!! So I had no need to try any of the
other remedies.

Thanks again to all for your replies and suggestions.

Larry
Toronto.


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