Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Voting

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LocalBlack

Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Voting

Legg inn av LocalBlack » 21 nov 2005 18:06:27

This catalogue can be found here with ordering information


http://www.shoplocalblack.com

1870-1996 Voter and other County Record DOB lookup Database - $29.95 +
$5.00 S/H


Social Security Death Index 1930 - 2000 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


California Birth Records California 1905 - 1995 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


California Death Records 1940 through 1999 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Illinois Death Records 1900 - 1950 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Kentucky Birth Records 1911-1999 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Kentucky Deaths Records 1973 - 1999 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Kentucky Marriages Records 1973 - 1999 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Kentucky Divorce Records 1900 - 1998 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


New York Death Records 1960 - 1988 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Ohio Birth Records 1900 - 2002 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Texas Adoption Records 1900 - 1987 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Texas Birth Records 1926-1995 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Texas Death Record 1964 - 1999 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Texas Marriage Records 1966 - 2000 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


Texas Divorce Records 1968 - 2000 - $9.95 + $5.00 S/H


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Don Kirkman

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Don Kirkman » 22 nov 2005 22:49:56

It seems to me I heard somewhere that LocalBlack wrote in article
<1132592787.768177.156440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:

This catalogue can be found here with ordering information
http://www.shoplocalblack.com

Does anyone have experience or relevant information about this source?
Most of what I located in Google was on other topics and shed no light
on the reliability of the company or the original source and provenance
of the offered data. There are a few items I would be interested in but
I want to proceed with caution. TIA
--
Don Kirkman

Robert Heiling

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 22 nov 2005 23:22:20

Don Kirkman wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that LocalBlack wrote in article
1132592787.768177.156440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:

This catalogue can be found here with ordering information
http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Does anyone have experience or relevant information about this source?
Most of what I located in Google was on other topics and shed no light
on the reliability of the company or the original source and provenance
of the offered data. There are a few items I would be interested in but
I want to proceed with caution. TIA

Guess what one of the major reasons is that you, I, and everybody else
gets so much spam. That reason is that there are too many people that
make it worth their while. Yes, sending spam is profitable even if only
a tiny fraction of people buy the goods, whatever they may be.

Oh yes, and you may never see either your money or any ordered goods
again.

Bob

Don Kirkman

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Don Kirkman » 24 nov 2005 01:56:02

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Robert Heiling wrote in article
<43839A1C.C7983CEC@comcast.net>:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that LocalBlack wrote in article
1132592787.768177.156440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:

This catalogue can be found here with ordering information
http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Does anyone have experience or relevant information about this source?
Most of what I located in Google was on other topics and shed no light
on the reliability of the company or the original source and provenance
of the offered data. There are a few items I would be interested in but
I want to proceed with caution. TIA

Guess what one of the major reasons is that you, I, and everybody else
gets so much spam. That reason is that there are too many people that
make it worth their while. Yes, sending spam is profitable even if only
a tiny fraction of people buy the goods, whatever they may be.

Oh yes, and you may never see either your money or any ordered goods
again.

I gather, then, that you have neither experience nor information for me,
unless you know for a fact that it really is spam. There appears to be
a rather large organization engaged in legitimate socio-political
enterprises behind this advertising, but nothing to indicate legitimacy
or expertise in genealogy. That's why I inquired.
--
Don Kirkman

Charlie Hoffpauir

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Charlie Hoffpauir » 24 nov 2005 03:21:25

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:56:02 -0800, Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net>
wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Robert Heiling wrote in article
43839A1C.C7983CEC@comcast.net>:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that LocalBlack wrote in article
1132592787.768177.156440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:

This catalogue can be found here with ordering information
http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Does anyone have experience or relevant information about this source?
Most of what I located in Google was on other topics and shed no light
on the reliability of the company or the original source and provenance
of the offered data. There are a few items I would be interested in but
I want to proceed with caution. TIA

Guess what one of the major reasons is that you, I, and everybody else
gets so much spam. That reason is that there are too many people that
make it worth their while. Yes, sending spam is profitable even if only
a tiny fraction of people buy the goods, whatever they may be.

Oh yes, and you may never see either your money or any ordered goods
again.

I gather, then, that you have neither experience nor information for me,
unless you know for a fact that it really is spam. There appears to be
a rather large organization engaged in legitimate socio-political
enterprises behind this advertising, but nothing to indicate legitimacy
or expertise in genealogy. That's why I inquired.

It really doesn't take any expertise in genealogy to collect lists of
names, dates, etc. The Texas records (for example) were once all
available for a free download from the Texas office of vital records.
Many have since been removed (for privacy reasons) but some are still
available. Purchase of the same records on a CD in order to save the
time/trouble of downloading seems reasonable to me. I see nothing on
the Texas site that says it isn't perfectly legal to do what he's
doing. (I don't know about any of the other information, though). I
am considering ordering a set of records from California... I
downloaded the Texas records a few years ago when they were all
avaliable. But I know from my experience with the Texas records, that
it's a "huge" amount of data, and you really need to be set up to
handle large files if you go this route.I converted my Texas data into
Access files... I now have 14 separate files ranging from 69 MB to
nearly 500 MB in size.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Dave Hinz

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Dave Hinz » 24 nov 2005 16:14:53

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:56:02 -0800, Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net> wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Robert Heiling wrote in article
43839A1C.C7983CEC@comcast.net>:

Guess what one of the major reasons is that you, I, and everybody else
gets so much spam.

I gather, then, that you have neither experience nor information for me,
unless you know for a fact that it really is spam.

The fact that it's a for-sale ad, in a discussion group, self-identifies
it as spam. There's nothing subtle or questionable about it.

Don Kirkman

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Don Kirkman » 24 nov 2005 22:14:25

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Charlie Hoffpauir wrote in article
<kb8ao15c9fr4pp3rd32d462qhllgttnpq0@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:56:02 -0800, Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net
wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Robert Heiling wrote in article
43839A1C.C7983CEC@comcast.net>:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that LocalBlack wrote in article
1132592787.768177.156440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:

This catalogue can be found here with ordering information
http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Does anyone have experience or relevant information about this source?
Most of what I located in Google was on other topics and shed no light
on the reliability of the company or the original source and provenance
of the offered data. There are a few items I would be interested in but
I want to proceed with caution. TIA

[. . .]

It really doesn't take any expertise in genealogy to collect lists of
names, dates, etc. The Texas records (for example) were once all
available for a free download from the Texas office of vital records.
Many have since been removed (for privacy reasons) but some are still
available. Purchase of the same records on a CD in order to save the
time/trouble of downloading seems reasonable to me. I see nothing on
the Texas site that says it isn't perfectly legal to do what he's
doing. (I don't know about any of the other information, though). I
am considering ordering a set of records from California... I
downloaded the Texas records a few years ago when they were all
avaliable. But I know from my experience with the Texas records, that
it's a "huge" amount of data, and you really need to be set up to
handle large files if you go this route.I converted my Texas data into
Access files... I now have 14 separate files ranging from 69 MB to
nearly 500 MB in size.

Thanks, Charlie, especially for the heads up about the size of the
files. I'll ponder the situation for a while before doing anything.

Aside: I know unsolicited advertising is technically spam, but not
every spam message implies fraud or shoddy merchandise.
--
Don Kirkman

Dave Hinz

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Dave Hinz » 25 nov 2005 13:55:26

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:14:25 -0800, Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net> wrote:

Aside: I know unsolicited advertising is technically spam, but not
every spam message implies fraud or shoddy merchandise.

No, but it does imply a seller who cares more about their profit, than
about putting their ad where it belongs. If they put respect for
convention behind profit, I wonder where careful research (which takes
much more effort than placing an ad) falls in priority...

Hugh Watkins

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 25 nov 2005 15:12:31

Dave Hinz wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:14:25 -0800, Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net> wrote:


Aside: I know unsolicited advertising is technically spam, but not
every spam message implies fraud or shoddy merchandise.


No, but it does imply a seller who cares more about their profit, than
about putting their ad where it belongs. If they put respect for
convention behind profit, I wonder where careful research (which takes
much more effort than placing an ad) falls in priority...


behave yourself Don
you may be a cripple but you are are not a usenet newbie
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Don Kirkman

Re: Death, Birth, Marriage, Divorce Indexes, SSI and Full Vo

Legg inn av Don Kirkman » 25 nov 2005 20:42:08

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Hugh Watkins wrote in article
<43871ba8$0$41149$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>:

Dave Hinz wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:14:25 -0800, Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net> wrote:

Aside: I know unsolicited advertising is technically spam, but not
every spam message implies fraud or shoddy merchandise.

No, but it does imply a seller who cares more about their profit, than
about putting their ad where it belongs. If they put respect for
convention behind profit, I wonder where careful research (which takes
much more effort than placing an ad) falls in priority...

That was sort of what I was hoping to learn by asking for feedback.

behave yourself Don
you may be a cripple

And your evidence for that is? True, I haven't run a marathon recently,
but it's only two days since I walked 18 holes of golf. I did skip my
runs yesterday and today, though. :-)

but you are are not a usenet newbie
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True, but asking a straightforward question is not yet a crime under the
so-called Patriot Act. ;-}
--
Don Kirkman

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