Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

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WhyKnot

Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av WhyKnot » 17 okt 2004 19:57:05

I am so sorry...I just came across a baptism certificate of my uncle who
passed away over 25 years ago and found that my mother's family name is
Fierro, not Ferro as she told me. She's almost 90, as I mentioned, and her
recall just isn't very good. I think possibly the family may have dropped
the i" along the way, so perhaps that's why she was confused.

Her mother's maiden name was Raffaela Fierro and the children were born
under the name of Bono in Yatesboro, PA around 1913 (there were 10
children).

Again, thank you for any help. I'm most interested in looking into my past
as well as finding any living relatives of the Fierro family line still in
the PA area or elsewhere.

MikeS

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av MikeS » 18 okt 2004 00:27:24

"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I am so sorry...I just came across a baptism certificate of my uncle who
passed away over 25 years ago and found that my mother's family name is
Fierro, not Ferro as she told me.

What is your mother's name and maiden name? When was she born ? Where was
she born? You need to give more specific information instead of guessing.
There is no Raffaella Bono or Fierro.

Mike

WhyKnot

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av WhyKnot » 18 okt 2004 04:50:37

These are the fact as far as I know them:
I have the Baptism certificate in front of me and it is very specific with
her mother's name of "Raffaela Fierro" listed on it. The name Raffaela has
only one letter "l" in it, not two on the certificate.
The entire certificate is written in Italian. It states the location of the
church (or parish?) as:
Chiesa di Santa Maria, Yatesboro, Pa and the certificate is dated Sept
28th, 1918. This certificate is for my mother's brother, Francesco Bono.
I am certain my mother was born in Yatesboro PA in June 1915 (but she
doesn't have her birth certificate and she's not sure of the actual
date...it was either the 25th, 26th or 27th of June...that's the best we can
do...she's always leaned towards the 26th of June, 1915) and her birth name
was Theresa Bono. She is certain her mother's name was Raffaela (I cannot
tell you, though, if the spelling was changed from the Italian way to the
American spelling or not...all I can tell you is what is on the baptism
certificate I have, which is clearly by an Italian penman).

Thank you again for all your help. I really appreciate it.

"MikeS" <archangel@heaven.com> wrote in message
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"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I am so sorry...I just came across a baptism certificate of my uncle who
passed away over 25 years ago and found that my mother's family name is
Fierro, not Ferro as she told me.

What is your mother's name and maiden name? When was she born ? Where
was she born? You need to give more specific information instead of
guessing. There is no Raffaella Bono or Fierro.

Mike

MikeS

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av MikeS » 18 okt 2004 19:52:43

"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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These are the fact as far as I know them:
I have the Baptism certificate in front of me and it is very specific with
her mother's name of "Raffaela Fierro" listed on it. The name Raffaela
has only one letter "l" in it, not two on the certificate.
The entire certificate is written in Italian. It states the location of
the church (or parish?) as:
Chiesa di Santa Maria, Yatesboro, Pa and the certificate is dated Sept
28th, 1918. This certificate is for my mother's brother, Francesco Bono.
I am certain my mother was born in Yatesboro PA in June 1915 (but she
doesn't have her birth certificate and she's not sure of the actual
date...it was either the 25th, 26th or 27th of June...that's the best we
can do...she's always leaned towards the 26th of June, 1915) and her birth
name was Theresa Bono. She is certain her mother's name was Raffaela (I
cannot tell you, though, if the spelling was changed from the Italian way
to the American spelling or not...all I can tell you is what is on the
baptism certificate I have, which is clearly by an Italian penman).

I believe this is your family in 1920 and 1930. Let me know your thoughts.
If it is your family I can then email you the census images.

1920, Rural Valley, Armstrong Co., PA
Bono, Frank, 31 b. ITA, Miner, Unknown when he immigrated to US
Lizzie, wife, 16, b. ITA, Immigrated in 1902
Joe, Son, 9 b. PA
Angeline, Daughter, 8 b. PA
Rosy, Daughter, 6 b. PA
Tracy, Daughter, 4 6/12 b. PA
Frank, Son, 3 6/12 b. PA
Mary, Daughter, 7/12 b. PA

1930, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY
Bono, Frank, 43, Widow, b. ITA Laborer Immigrated 1901
Angelina, Daughter, 18 b. PA
Teressa, Daughter, 14 b. PA
Frank, Son, 12 b. PA
Stella, Daughter, 10 b. PA

Mike

ecunningham

Re: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av ecunningham » 18 okt 2004 19:54:28

WhyKnot wrote:

I have the Baptism certificate in front of me and it is very specific with
her mother's name of "Raffaela Fierro" listed on it. The name Raffaela has
only one letter "l" in it, not two on the certificate.
The entire certificate is written in Italian. It states the location of the
church (or parish?) as:
Chiesa di Santa Maria, Yatesboro, Pa and the certificate is dated Sept
28th, 1918. This certificate is for my mother's brother, Francesco Bono.
I am certain my mother was born in Yatesboro PA in June 1915

WhyNot: Don't recall the original question, but the family appears in
1920 census in PA, Armstrong County, Rural Valley ED 47, Sheet 2B. Mom
is listed as Tresy and grandma is Lizzie (if I recall correctly). It
is Ancestry's ED 47, Page 4/17. Boarding next door is a Carlo Ferro.
Also Frank's WWI draft registration lists his birth village, but the
page is fuzzier than my Italian! All available at your local library
or online via Ancestry.
ecunningham@att.net

WhyKnot

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av WhyKnot » 19 okt 2004 05:24:48

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's them. I'm not sure why they called her mother
Lizzie (possibly her middle name was Elizabeth?) but I vaguely recall that
she said her mother was called Liz or Elizabeth at one time.

"MikeS" <archangel@heaven.com> wrote in message
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"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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These are the fact as far as I know them:
I have the Baptism certificate in front of me and it is very specific
with her mother's name of "Raffaela Fierro" listed on it. The name
Raffaela has only one letter "l" in it, not two on the certificate.
The entire certificate is written in Italian. It states the location of
the church (or parish?) as:
Chiesa di Santa Maria, Yatesboro, Pa and the certificate is dated Sept
28th, 1918. This certificate is for my mother's brother, Francesco Bono.
I am certain my mother was born in Yatesboro PA in June 1915 (but she
doesn't have her birth certificate and she's not sure of the actual
date...it was either the 25th, 26th or 27th of June...that's the best we
can do...she's always leaned towards the 26th of June, 1915) and her
birth name was Theresa Bono. She is certain her mother's name was
Raffaela (I cannot tell you, though, if the spelling was changed from the
Italian way to the American spelling or not...all I can tell you is what
is on the baptism certificate I have, which is clearly by an Italian
penman).

I believe this is your family in 1920 and 1930. Let me know your
thoughts. If it is your family I can then email you the census images.

1920, Rural Valley, Armstrong Co., PA
Bono, Frank, 31 b. ITA, Miner, Unknown when he immigrated to US
Lizzie, wife, 16, b. ITA, Immigrated in 1902
Joe, Son, 9 b. PA
Angeline, Daughter, 8 b. PA
Rosy, Daughter, 6 b. PA
Tracy, Daughter, 4 6/12 b. PA
Frank, Son, 3 6/12 b. PA
Mary, Daughter, 7/12 b. PA

1930, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY
Bono, Frank, 43, Widow, b. ITA Laborer Immigrated 1901
Angelina, Daughter, 18 b. PA
Teressa, Daughter, 14 b. PA
Frank, Son, 12 b. PA
Stella, Daughter, 10 b. PA

Mike

WhyKnot

Re: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av WhyKnot » 19 okt 2004 05:24:48

Where would I find this at my local library? I've never tried finding this
sort of information before. I have no idea on how to start in search for my
family roots. I live in a very small town and the town library only has
local town records. Would I be able to request microfilm of the records or
something like that? I'm just completely naive about all this. I'd be so
interested in finding out about my grandparents birth villages in Italy to
trace my heritage and family lines.

Thank you so very much for your help!

"ecunningham" <ecunningham@att.net> wrote in message
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WhyKnot wrote:

I have the Baptism certificate in front of me and it is very specific
with
her mother's name of "Raffaela Fierro" listed on it. The name Raffaela
has
only one letter "l" in it, not two on the certificate.
The entire certificate is written in Italian. It states the location of
the
church (or parish?) as:
Chiesa di Santa Maria, Yatesboro, Pa and the certificate is dated Sept
28th, 1918. This certificate is for my mother's brother, Francesco Bono.
I am certain my mother was born in Yatesboro PA in June 1915

WhyNot: Don't recall the original question, but the family appears in
1920 census in PA, Armstrong County, Rural Valley ED 47, Sheet 2B. Mom
is listed as Tresy and grandma is Lizzie (if I recall correctly). It
is Ancestry's ED 47, Page 4/17. Boarding next door is a Carlo Ferro.
Also Frank's WWI draft registration lists his birth village, but the
page is fuzzier than my Italian! All available at your local library
or online via Ancestry.
ecunningham@att.net

ecunningham

Re: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av ecunningham » 19 okt 2004 17:15:24

WhyKnot wrote:
Where would I find this at my local library? I've never tried finding this
sort of information before. I have no idea on how to start in search for my
family roots. I live in a very small town and the town library only has
local town records.

Why: All libraries have reference librarians or someone who fills that
capacity. Ask that person if the library has a computer and access to
Ancestry. If not, ask at your county library, which most probably will
have it. Also find out if there is a Mormon Family History Center near
you. You can find the list at http://www.familysearch.org Also go to:
http://www.ancestry.com and read the tutorials on genealogy available
free there. Or, ask that reference librarian if the library has books
on how to do basic genealogy. Also see if your local county has a
genealogy society or club.
ecunningham@att.net

WhyKnot

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av WhyKnot » 20 okt 2004 00:45:26

Mike,

I'm confused about the ages...they don't make sense (How can a 16 year old
mother have a 9 year old son?)or else there's more to this story then Mom's
ever told me (which shouldn't surprise me?) plus, there are children missing
and then a child I don't know about (I don't know who Mary is...I never had
an Aunt Mary and I was never told about any of the kids dying). My mother's
name is Theresa, not Tracy, so that's a little confusing.

You mentioned you'd email me more information. You can send me email at the
following (just remove the words "removethehat" from the two places in the
address below.

Thank you again!
vdavis3removethehat@rochester.removethehat.rr.com

"MikeS" <archangel@heaven.com> wrote in message
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"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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These are the fact as far as I know them:
I have the Baptism certificate in front of me and it is very specific
with her mother's name of "Raffaela Fierro" listed on it. The name
Raffaela has only one letter "l" in it, not two on the certificate.
The entire certificate is written in Italian. It states the location of
the church (or parish?) as:
Chiesa di Santa Maria, Yatesboro, Pa and the certificate is dated Sept
28th, 1918. This certificate is for my mother's brother, Francesco Bono.
I am certain my mother was born in Yatesboro PA in June 1915 (but she
doesn't have her birth certificate and she's not sure of the actual
date...it was either the 25th, 26th or 27th of June...that's the best we
can do...she's always leaned towards the 26th of June, 1915) and her
birth name was Theresa Bono. She is certain her mother's name was
Raffaela (I cannot tell you, though, if the spelling was changed from the
Italian way to the American spelling or not...all I can tell you is what
is on the baptism certificate I have, which is clearly by an Italian
penman).

I believe this is your family in 1920 and 1930. Let me know your
thoughts. If it is your family I can then email you the census images.

1920, Rural Valley, Armstrong Co., PA
Bono, Frank, 31 b. ITA, Miner, Unknown when he immigrated to US
Lizzie, wife, 16, b. ITA, Immigrated in 1902
Joe, Son, 9 b. PA
Angeline, Daughter, 8 b. PA
Rosy, Daughter, 6 b. PA
Tracy, Daughter, 4 6/12 b. PA
Frank, Son, 3 6/12 b. PA
Mary, Daughter, 7/12 b. PA

1930, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY
Bono, Frank, 43, Widow, b. ITA Laborer Immigrated 1901
Angelina, Daughter, 18 b. PA
Teressa, Daughter, 14 b. PA
Frank, Son, 12 b. PA
Stella, Daughter, 10 b. PA

Mike

MikeS

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av MikeS » 20 okt 2004 01:11:03

"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Mike,

I'm confused about the ages...they don't make sense (How can a 16 year old
mother have a 9 year old son?)or else there's more to this story then
Mom's ever told me (which shouldn't surprise me?) plus, there are children
missing and then a child I don't know about (I don't know who Mary is...I
never had an Aunt Mary and I was never told about any of the kids dying).
My mother's name is Theresa, not Tracy, so that's a little confusing.

You mentioned you'd email me more information. You can send me email at
the following (just remove the words "removethehat" from the two places in
the address below.

Typographical errors occur. She should be 26 vs. 16. If you examine the
data, Tracy is Theresa
and Mary is probably Stella. I indicated I would send the census images if
you wanted them. I guess you do so I will send them separately. Examine
the date; compare the data, believe the data. It is not surprising you find
so mary variations in census data.

Mike

WhyKnot

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av WhyKnot » 20 okt 2004 01:41:22

Thanks Mike. I just showed my mom the information you posted. I told her I
would imagine there are a lot of mistakes in census information. She found
a prayer card from her grandmother's funeral. She tells me the family
apparently spelled Fierro all different ways, but most of them ended up
Americanizing it to "Fear". The prayer card lists her grandmother as:

Rose Fear
Born June 3, 1871
Died June 8, 1967

The card is from Rural Valley, Pa. , Edwards Funeral Home.

I wish I had more time in my life to investigate this all. I am so busy that
I hardly have time to read my email, much less research anything. But I'm
thinking I need to start finding time. It is so interesting for many
reasons. I have a child with a recessive genetic disease that seems to have
mysteriously popped up in our family that children must have died of very
young years back. No one on either side of our families seem to remember
any young children dying, but then we don't have much of a family history to
go on.

Thanks again. I appreciate all your help.


"MikeS" <archangel@heaven.com> wrote in message
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"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Mike,

I'm confused about the ages...they don't make sense (How can a 16 year
old mother have a 9 year old son?)or else there's more to this story then
Mom's ever told me (which shouldn't surprise me?) plus, there are
children missing and then a child I don't know about (I don't know who
Mary is...I never had an Aunt Mary and I was never told about any of the
kids dying). My mother's name is Theresa, not Tracy, so that's a little
confusing.

You mentioned you'd email me more information. You can send me email at
the following (just remove the words "removethehat" from the two places
in the address below.

Typographical errors occur. She should be 26 vs. 16. If you examine the
data, Tracy is Theresa
and Mary is probably Stella. I indicated I would send the census images
if you wanted them. I guess you do so I will send them separately.
Examine the date; compare the data, believe the data. It is not
surprising you find so mary variations in census data.

Mike

James A. Doemer

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 20 okt 2004 02:15:04

"WhyKnot" <I'llThinkAboutThatTomorrow@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Mike. I just showed my mom the information you posted. I told her
I
would imagine there are a lot of mistakes in census information.

Just as a for instance, I read about how the Census Takers were hired and
paid for the Detroit area for the 1900 Census. They had to be able to read
and write, naturally, but no better than what would be about a 5th grader
today. They were paid like a dime a "household", the more they interviewed,
the more they made. Accuracy was obviously not the emphasis of the day. By
1910, they had to add a review process because it was discovered that a few
less than scrupulous individuals would make up households to pad their pay.

Huntersglenn

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 20 okt 2004 03:13:42

WhyKnot wrote:
Mike,

I'm confused about the ages...they don't make sense (How can a 16 year old
mother have a 9 year old son?)or else there's more to this story then Mom's
ever told me (which shouldn't surprise me?) plus, there are children missing
and then a child I don't know about (I don't know who Mary is...I never had
an Aunt Mary and I was never told about any of the kids dying). My mother's
name is Theresa, not Tracy, so that's a little confusing.


The 16 year old wife could very possibly be a second wife, and not the

mother of the children.

Cathy

WhyKnot

Re: Correction: Fierro (not Ferro) from Yatesborro, PA

Legg inn av WhyKnot » 20 okt 2004 04:19:04

I think Mike was right with the error in age. Especially when I see the
error in my mother's name and Aunt Stella's name. They had that way wrong.
My mother tells me there wasn't that huge of a difference in there age
between her parents and I've seen a picture of them all when my mother was
about 4...her mom definitely wasn't a teenager then. Besides, my mother
assures me there were no other wives, all the children were from one mother,
they all have a STRONG family resemblance and they were very old country
Italian strict Catholics, so, unless there was death of a first wife, then
there'd be no second wife.

But is was a thought I had, too, for a moment when I read that. Enough to
make me ask her if it was possible!

"Huntersglenn" <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in message
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WhyKnot wrote:
Mike,

I'm confused about the ages...they don't make sense (How can a 16 year
old mother have a 9 year old son?)or else there's more to this story then
Mom's ever told me (which shouldn't surprise me?) plus, there are
children missing and then a child I don't know about (I don't know who
Mary is...I never had an Aunt Mary and I was never told about any of the
kids dying). My mother's name is Theresa, not Tracy, so that's a little
confusing.


The 16 year old wife could very possibly be a second wife, and not the
mother of the children.

Cathy

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