1871 lookup please !
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Robert Jeffery
1871 lookup please !
Hello fellow researchers
I cannot afford the subscription to Ancestry.com, but need someone with
access to the UK 1871 census to do a look up for a relative of mine.
She is my great great grandmother, Mary Ann WHITMORE born 1855 Dec quarter.
Mary was born in Netherton, (Dudley), Worcester.
I hope this is not too much of an imposition. This information will help me
and my father-in-law to advance our tree.
Thank you
Rob
I cannot afford the subscription to Ancestry.com, but need someone with
access to the UK 1871 census to do a look up for a relative of mine.
She is my great great grandmother, Mary Ann WHITMORE born 1855 Dec quarter.
Mary was born in Netherton, (Dudley), Worcester.
I hope this is not too much of an imposition. This information will help me
and my father-in-law to advance our tree.
Thank you
Rob
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MikeS
Re: 1871 lookup please !
"Robert Jeffery" <rob@bravehearts.plus.com> wrote in message
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There is no Mary Ann, Mary A., or Mary Whitmore born in Netherton listed.
The only Mary who comes close, age 16, shows an unstated birth place and she
is residing in the District Northamton Union Workhouse, St. Giles,
Northamtonshire with either a relative or her mother named Emma Whitmore.
Mike
news:416b8832$0$47993$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
Hello fellow researchers
I cannot afford the subscription to Ancestry.com, but need someone with
access to the UK 1871 census to do a look up for a relative of mine.
She is my great great grandmother, Mary Ann WHITMORE born 1855 Dec
quarter.
Mary was born in Netherton, (Dudley), Worcester.
There is no Mary Ann, Mary A., or Mary Whitmore born in Netherton listed.
The only Mary who comes close, age 16, shows an unstated birth place and she
is residing in the District Northamton Union Workhouse, St. Giles,
Northamtonshire with either a relative or her mother named Emma Whitmore.
Mike
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Robert Jeffery
Re: 1871 lookup please !
Thanks for the info, Mike
Best regards
Rob
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Best regards
Rob
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"Robert Jeffery" <rob@bravehearts.plus.com> wrote in message
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Hello fellow researchers
I cannot afford the subscription to Ancestry.com, but need someone with
access to the UK 1871 census to do a look up for a relative of mine.
She is my great great grandmother, Mary Ann WHITMORE born 1855 Dec
quarter.
Mary was born in Netherton, (Dudley), Worcester.
There is no Mary Ann, Mary A., or Mary Whitmore born in Netherton listed.
The only Mary who comes close, age 16, shows an unstated birth place and
she
is residing in the District Northamton Union Workhouse, St. Giles,
Northamtonshire with either a relative or her mother named Emma Whitmore.
Mike
-
Hugh Watkins
Re: 1871 lookup please !
"Robert Jeffery" <rob@bravehearts.plus.com> wrote in message
news:416b8832$0$47993$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
better subscribe to ancestry.co.uk alone then like me - I pay annually and
was a early adopter
still waiting for Monmouthshire 1871
or find a library which has ancestry plus or its successor
or any Family History Library (ie FH Center) in the world has a free
subscription as long as they have internet access (email me if you need help
setting it up)
Dudley is in Staffordshire which is not yet on line for 1871
..http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... ton+dudley
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/wor.htm
Pershore
Created 1st July 1837.
Sub-districts : Eckington; Pershore; Upton Snodsbury.
GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6c (1852-1930).
Abberton, Besford, Birlingham, Bishampton, Bredicot, Bricklehampton,
Broughton Hackett, Charlton, Churchill, Cropthorne, Defford, Dormston,
Eckington, Elmley Castle, Fladbury, Flyford Flavell, Grafton Flyford, Great
Comberton, Hill and Moor, Kington, Little Comberton, Naunton Beauchamp,
Netherton,
North Piddle, Norton by Kempsey, Peopleton, Pershore, Pinvin, Pirton,
Spetchley, Stoulton, Strensham, Throckmorton, Upton Snodsbury, White Ladies
Aston, Whittington, Wick, Wyre Piddle.
Registers now in Pershore district.
1871 England Census
Viewing records 1-20 of 127 matches for:
Whitmore soundex in Worcestershire
none mention Netherton,
so you have to wait for Staffordshire 1871 to come on line
and I look forward to Stoje on Trent too
enjoy
Hugh W
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Results per page 10 20 50
Viewing 1-2 of 2
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1891 England Census 6
1901 England Census 3
1891 England Census
Viewing records 1-6 of 6 matches for:
Whitmore with Netherton
What can I do with the 1891 England Census?
Find information about your ancestors' employment, birthplace, age, and
even the street address of their home. More information below
« Global Search Results
NameAge in 1891BirthplaceRelationship to head-of-houseCivil parishCountyView
Image
Whitmore, Joseph40Netherton, WorcestershireHead West Bromwich Staffordshire
Whitmore, Polly C22Netherton, WorcestershireServant Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
Whitmore, Silvia57Netherton, StaffordshireHead Tipton Staffordshire
Whitmore, Thomas38Netherton, WorcestershireHead Birmingham Warwickshire
Whitmore, William60Netherton, WorcestershireHead Crayford Kent
Whitmore, William36Netherton, WorcestershireHead Aston Warwickshire
1901 England Census
Viewing records 1-3 of 3 matches for:
Whitmore with Netherton
« Global Search Results
NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/IslandView Image
Sylvia Whitmore65 Netherton, Worcestershire, EnglandHead Tipton
Staffordshire
Thomas Whitmore48 Netherton, Worcestershire, EnglandHead Wednesbury
Staffordshire
William Whitmore71 Netherton, Staffordshire, England
Head Crayford Kent
Do ask if you need more about a cuople of them
news:416b8832$0$47993$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
Hello fellow researchers
I cannot afford the subscription to Ancestry.com,
better subscribe to ancestry.co.uk alone then like me - I pay annually and
was a early adopter
still waiting for Monmouthshire 1871
or find a library which has ancestry plus or its successor
or any Family History Library (ie FH Center) in the world has a free
subscription as long as they have internet access (email me if you need help
setting it up)
but need someone with
access to the UK 1871 census to do a look up for a relative of mine.
She is my great great grandmother, Mary Ann WHITMORE born 1855 Dec
quarter.
Mary was born in Netherton, (Dudley), Worcester.
I hope this is not too much of an imposition. This information will help
me
and my father-in-law to advance our tree
Dudley is in Staffordshire which is not yet on line for 1871
..http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... ton+dudley
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/wor.htm
Pershore
Created 1st July 1837.
Sub-districts : Eckington; Pershore; Upton Snodsbury.
GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6c (1852-1930).
Abberton, Besford, Birlingham, Bishampton, Bredicot, Bricklehampton,
Broughton Hackett, Charlton, Churchill, Cropthorne, Defford, Dormston,
Eckington, Elmley Castle, Fladbury, Flyford Flavell, Grafton Flyford, Great
Comberton, Hill and Moor, Kington, Little Comberton, Naunton Beauchamp,
Netherton,
North Piddle, Norton by Kempsey, Peopleton, Pershore, Pinvin, Pirton,
Spetchley, Stoulton, Strensham, Throckmorton, Upton Snodsbury, White Ladies
Aston, Whittington, Wick, Wyre Piddle.
Registers now in Pershore district.
1871 England Census
Viewing records 1-20 of 127 matches for:
Whitmore soundex in Worcestershire
none mention Netherton,
so you have to wait for Staffordshire 1871 to come on line
and I look forward to Stoje on Trent too
enjoy
Hugh W
================= searches ==============
Census Records matches for Whitmore with Netherton = Subscription Required
(Sign Up!)
9 total matches found in All Records > Census Records
Results per page 10 20 50
Viewing 1-2 of 2
Titlematches | info
1891 England Census 6
1901 England Census 3
1891 England Census
Viewing records 1-6 of 6 matches for:
Whitmore with Netherton
What can I do with the 1891 England Census?
Find information about your ancestors' employment, birthplace, age, and
even the street address of their home. More information below
« Global Search Results
NameAge in 1891BirthplaceRelationship to head-of-houseCivil parishCountyView
Image
Whitmore, Joseph40Netherton, WorcestershireHead West Bromwich Staffordshire
Whitmore, Polly C22Netherton, WorcestershireServant Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
Whitmore, Silvia57Netherton, StaffordshireHead Tipton Staffordshire
Whitmore, Thomas38Netherton, WorcestershireHead Birmingham Warwickshire
Whitmore, William60Netherton, WorcestershireHead Crayford Kent
Whitmore, William36Netherton, WorcestershireHead Aston Warwickshire
1901 England Census
Viewing records 1-3 of 3 matches for:
Whitmore with Netherton
« Global Search Results
NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/IslandView Image
Sylvia Whitmore65 Netherton, Worcestershire, EnglandHead Tipton
Staffordshire
Thomas Whitmore48 Netherton, Worcestershire, EnglandHead Wednesbury
Staffordshire
William Whitmore71 Netherton, Staffordshire, England
Head Crayford Kent
Do ask if you need more about a cuople of them
-
Robert Jeffery
Re: 1871 lookup please !
Thank you Hugh, we believe Mary came from Netherton, Worcester, my
father-in-law guessed Netherton, Dudley, but they are obviously two
different places/counties. I think we will have to do some more digging.
Best regards
Rob
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@msn.com> wrote in message
news:2t2bd6F1rfj9sU1@uni-berlin.de...
father-in-law guessed Netherton, Dudley, but they are obviously two
different places/counties. I think we will have to do some more digging.
Best regards
Rob
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@msn.com> wrote in message
news:2t2bd6F1rfj9sU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Robert Jeffery" <rob@bravehearts.plus.com> wrote in message
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Hello fellow researchers
I cannot afford the subscription to Ancestry.com,
better subscribe to ancestry.co.uk alone then like me - I pay annually and
was a early adopter
still waiting for Monmouthshire 1871
or find a library which has ancestry plus or its successor
or any Family History Library (ie FH Center) in the world has a free
subscription as long as they have internet access (email me if you need
help
setting it up)
but need someone with
access to the UK 1871 census to do a look up for a relative of mine.
She is my great great grandmother, Mary Ann WHITMORE born 1855 Dec
quarter.
Mary was born in Netherton, (Dudley), Worcester.
I hope this is not too much of an imposition. This information will help
me
and my father-in-law to advance our tree
Dudley is in Staffordshire which is not yet on line for 1871
..http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... ton+dudley
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/wor.htm
Pershore
Created 1st July 1837.
Sub-districts : Eckington; Pershore; Upton Snodsbury.
GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6c (1852-1930).
Abberton, Besford, Birlingham, Bishampton, Bredicot, Bricklehampton,
Broughton Hackett, Charlton, Churchill, Cropthorne, Defford, Dormston,
Eckington, Elmley Castle, Fladbury, Flyford Flavell, Grafton Flyford,
Great
Comberton, Hill and Moor, Kington, Little Comberton, Naunton Beauchamp,
Netherton,
North Piddle, Norton by Kempsey, Peopleton, Pershore, Pinvin, Pirton,
Spetchley, Stoulton, Strensham, Throckmorton, Upton Snodsbury, White
Ladies
Aston, Whittington, Wick, Wyre Piddle.
Registers now in Pershore district.
1871 England Census
Viewing records 1-20 of 127 matches for:
Whitmore soundex in Worcestershire
none mention Netherton,
so you have to wait for Staffordshire 1871 to come on line
and I look forward to Stoje on Trent too
enjoy
Hugh W
================= searches ==============
Census Records matches for Whitmore with Netherton = Subscription Required
(Sign Up!)
9 total matches found in All Records > Census Records
Results per page 10 20 50
Viewing 1-2 of 2
Titlematches | info
1891 England Census 6
1901 England Census 3
1891 England Census
Viewing records 1-6 of 6 matches for:
Whitmore with Netherton
What can I do with the 1891 England Census?
Find information about your ancestors' employment, birthplace, age, and
even the street address of their home. More information below
« Global Search Results
NameAge in 1891BirthplaceRelationship to head-of-houseCivil
parishCountyView
Image
Whitmore, Joseph40Netherton, WorcestershireHead West Bromwich
Staffordshire
Whitmore, Polly C22Netherton, WorcestershireServant Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
Whitmore, Silvia57Netherton, StaffordshireHead Tipton Staffordshire
Whitmore, Thomas38Netherton, WorcestershireHead Birmingham Warwickshire
Whitmore, William60Netherton, WorcestershireHead Crayford Kent
Whitmore, William36Netherton, WorcestershireHead Aston Warwickshire
1901 England Census
Viewing records 1-3 of 3 matches for:
Whitmore with Netherton
« Global Search Results
NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/IslandView Image
Sylvia Whitmore65 Netherton, Worcestershire, EnglandHead Tipton
Staffordshire
Thomas Whitmore48 Netherton, Worcestershire, EnglandHead Wednesbury
Staffordshire
William Whitmore71 Netherton, Staffordshire, England
Head Crayford Kent
Do ask if you need more about a cuople of them
-
Hugh Watkins
Re: 1871 lookup please !
"Robert Jeffery" <rob@bravehearts.plus.com> wrote in message
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no county boundaries get moved
especially as Birmingham expanded and new parishes were created and churches
built
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
Netherton, West Midlands [Town] just south of Dudley
Use http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dl ... 07&A=Y&Z=5
to link to this map.
Location is at 394097E 288207N (N52:29:30 W2:05:18) Click here to
convert/measure coordinates
Netherton, Worcestershire [Town] near Evesham
Use http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dl ... 10&A=Y&Z=5
to link to this map.
Location is at 399736E 241710N (N52:04:26 W2:00:19) Click here to
convert/measure coordinates
http://multimap.com/
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
enjoy
Hugh W
news:416c1c43$0$59481$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
Thank you Hugh, we believe Mary came from Netherton, Worcester, my
father-in-law guessed Netherton, Dudley, but they are obviously two
different places/counties. I think we will have to do some more digging.
no county boundaries get moved
especially as Birmingham expanded and new parishes were created and churches
built
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
Netherton, West Midlands [Town] just south of Dudley
Use http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dl ... 07&A=Y&Z=5
to link to this map.
Location is at 394097E 288207N (N52:29:30 W2:05:18) Click here to
convert/measure coordinates
Netherton, Worcestershire [Town] near Evesham
Use http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dl ... 10&A=Y&Z=5
to link to this map.
Location is at 399736E 241710N (N52:04:26 W2:00:19) Click here to
convert/measure coordinates
http://multimap.com/
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
enjoy
Hugh W
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Robert Jeffery
Re: 1871 lookup please !
Thanks once again, Hugh, for invaluable information.
Best wishes
Rob
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@msn.com> wrote in message
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Best wishes
Rob
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Robert Jeffery" <rob@bravehearts.plus.com> wrote in message
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Thank you Hugh, we believe Mary came from Netherton, Worcester, my
father-in-law guessed Netherton, Dudley, but they are obviously two
different places/counties. I think we will have to do some more digging.
no county boundaries get moved
especially as Birmingham expanded and new parishes were created and
churches
built
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
Netherton, West Midlands [Town] just south of Dudley
Use http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dl ... 07&A=Y&Z=5
to link to this map.
Location is at 394097E 288207N (N52:29:30 W2:05:18) Click here to
convert/measure coordinates
Netherton, Worcestershire [Town] near Evesham
Use http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dl ... 10&A=Y&Z=5
to link to this map.
Location is at 399736E 241710N (N52:04:26 W2:00:19) Click here to
convert/measure coordinates
http://multimap.com/
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
enjoy
Hugh W
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Steven Gibbs
Re: 1871 lookup please !
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@msn.com> wrote in message
news:2t2bd6F1rfj9sU1@uni-berlin.de...
Dudley was in Worcestershire before the 1974 county reorganisation.
Genuki lists it under Worcestershire, not Staffordshire, but there is no
history of the parish on the site. I'm not aware that it was ever in
Staffordshire.
As a detached part of Worcestershire, it would most likely have been
enumerated with Staffordshire in the censuses, an arrangement Ancestry
have problems with.
Regards
Steven Gibbs
Bedford, England
news:2t2bd6F1rfj9sU1@uni-berlin.de...
Dudley is in Staffordshire which is not yet on line for 1871
Dudley was in Worcestershire before the 1974 county reorganisation.
Genuki lists it under Worcestershire, not Staffordshire, but there is no
history of the parish on the site. I'm not aware that it was ever in
Staffordshire.
As a detached part of Worcestershire, it would most likely have been
enumerated with Staffordshire in the censuses, an arrangement Ancestry
have problems with.
Regards
Steven Gibbs
Bedford, England
-
Robert Jeffery
Re: 1871 lookup please !
Thank you for claifying this point, Steven.
Best regards
Rob
"Steven Gibbs" <stevenng2@sgibbs1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Best regards
Rob
"Steven Gibbs" <stevenng2@sgibbs1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@msn.com> wrote in message
news:2t2bd6F1rfj9sU1@uni-berlin.de...
Dudley is in Staffordshire which is not yet on line for 1871
Dudley was in Worcestershire before the 1974 county reorganisation.
Genuki lists it under Worcestershire, not Staffordshire, but there is no
history of the parish on the site. I'm not aware that it was ever in
Staffordshire.
As a detached part of Worcestershire, it would most likely have been
enumerated with Staffordshire in the censuses, an arrangement Ancestry
have problems with.
Regards
Steven Gibbs
Bedford, England
-
Hugh Watkins
Re: 1871 lookup please !
"Robert Jeffery" <rob@bravehearts.plus.com> wrote in message
news:416d198f$0$44839$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
in UK we prefer to use historical counties as per primary sources
but it looks as if Ancestry in Utah is trying to standardize the counties
for database purposes
Unfortunately there is no public declaration of this or what scheme they are
using
They work very closely with the Family History library
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp
Place search results
Netherton
England, Lancashire, Netherton
Netherton (near Dudley)
England, Worcester, Netherton (near Dudley)
Netherton (near Elmley Castle)
England, Worcester, Netherton (near Elmley Castle)
so it would be logical if they followed that plan
Place search results
Dudley
England, Worcester, Dudley
Dudley Castle Hill
England, Worcester, Dudley Castle Hill
Dudley-Port
England, Stafford, Dudley-Port
Netherton (near Dudley)
England, Worcester, Netherton (near Dudley)
whilst for Germany and Denmark the library states which gazetteer they use
they list 7 for england
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/ ... e_name.asp
Hugh W
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Thank you for claifying this point, Steven.
Best regards
Rob
"Steven Gibbs" <stevenng2@sgibbs1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Hugh Watkins" <hugh_watkins@msn.com> wrote in message
news:2t2bd6F1rfj9sU1@uni-berlin.de...
Dudley is in Staffordshire which is not yet on line for 1871
Dudley was in Worcestershire before the 1974 county reorganisation.
Genuki lists it under Worcestershire, not Staffordshire, but there is no
history of the parish on the site. I'm not aware that it was ever in
Staffordshire.
As a detached part of Worcestershire, it would most likely have been
enumerated with Staffordshire in the censuses, an arrangement Ancestry
have problems with.
in UK we prefer to use historical counties as per primary sources
but it looks as if Ancestry in Utah is trying to standardize the counties
for database purposes
Unfortunately there is no public declaration of this or what scheme they are
using
They work very closely with the Family History library
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp
Place search results
Netherton
England, Lancashire, Netherton
Netherton (near Dudley)
England, Worcester, Netherton (near Dudley)
Netherton (near Elmley Castle)
England, Worcester, Netherton (near Elmley Castle)
so it would be logical if they followed that plan
Place search results
Dudley
England, Worcester, Dudley
Dudley Castle Hill
England, Worcester, Dudley Castle Hill
Dudley-Port
England, Stafford, Dudley-Port
Netherton (near Dudley)
England, Worcester, Netherton (near Dudley)
whilst for Germany and Denmark the library states which gazetteer they use
they list 7 for england
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/ ... e_name.asp
Hugh W