REQ: Passenger Lists and Greeks

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BigPoppa

REQ: Passenger Lists and Greeks

Legg inn av BigPoppa » 30 sep 2004 03:43:50

curious about what to do when you cannot find someone on a passenger
lists. I am trying to get information about my grandfather, Kostas
Dumas (or Doumas, not sure) who was Greek but the WW1 Draft
registration listed him as coming from Turkey. Any resources or ideas?
Thanks.
--
John

joe

Re: REQ: Passenger Lists and Greeks

Legg inn av joe » 30 sep 2004 05:09:22

Hello John,
Here is a research guide that may help you...

Finding Passenger Lists 1820-1940s (arrivals at US Ports)
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/passengers.html

If he came to New York 1892-1924 then you can search online using the
Ellis Island Database...

http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/

An easy way to search can be found here...

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellis.html

You also might try searching for his naturalization record...

Finding US Naturalization Records (a genealogy guide)
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/natura ... cords.html

Good luck with your search.

Regards,
Joe

BigPoppa wrote:
curious about what to do when you cannot find someone on a passenger
lists. I am trying to get information about my grandfather, Kostas
Dumas (or Doumas, not sure) who was Greek but the WW1 Draft
registration listed him as coming from Turkey. Any resources or ideas?
Thanks.
--
John

Sharon Regina Wethly

Re: REQ: Passenger Lists and Greeks

Legg inn av Sharon Regina Wethly » 30 sep 2004 17:40:45

I found a listing of when my great grandfather came over at
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/

For a fee they can give you a hardcopy of the information.

Or try searching ellis island passenger lists on Yahoo! and you get several
other links there.
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""Lorine McGinnis Schulze"" <otg@csolve.net> wrote in message
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On 30 Sep 2004 at 1:43, BigPoppa wrote:

curious about what to do when you cannot find someone on a
passenger lists. I am trying to get information about my
grandfather, Kostas Dumas (or Doumas, not sure) who was
Greek but the WW1 Draft registration listed him as coming
from Turkey. Any resources or ideas? Thanks. -- John



Hi John

If you don't have a good timeframe for his immigration
year, I'd start with the census records.

The 1900, 1910 ,1920 and 1930 census identify citizenship
status, with notations showing the individual was an
Alien,
or had started the Naturalization process or had his final
papers. The year of immigration is also shown. 1920 also
nicely provides a year of naturalization.

You can read more about the value of census records in
your
search for an immigrant ancestor at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/census.shtml


To find out what questions were asked on various census
records
see
http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/tQuestions.html

There is an explanation and Resource Guide to
Naturalization
Records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/

For a Resource Guide to the records, what you can expect
to
find, where to find them, and alternate sources of finding
those important years (immigration and naturalization) at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ Read the intro
then
choose your state of interest.

There are also many links to searchable online
naturalization records at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/

Choose your state of interest from the list at the bottom
of the page then click on ONLINE records.

Then I'd start checking indexes for his arrival. Most
states are indexed so that should help you.

Once you know your ancestor's state of entry, you can
search microfilms. You can order films in to a nearby
Family History Centre, or have NARA do the job (once you
have precise details)

Once you know your state, you can get a list of film
numbers (NARA & FHC) at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nar ... port.shtml

Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link,
then find the film # you need

There are some ideas for researching hard to find
ancestors
on ships lists after 1820 at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/usaaft1820.shtml

For more ideas go to
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/articles.shtml and
scroll down to "Emigration, Immigration & Passenger Lists"
to
make your choice.

Also, if you think he came in via NY after 1894, you can
search the online Ellis Island database. A good place to
start is at Steve Morse's One-Step Search Engines at
http://www.stevemorse.org/


Lorine



**Search over 5,000 Ships Passenger Lists to USA
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml
**Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/sea ... nada.shtml
** Naturalization Records at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~
otg@csolve.net

Lorine McGinnis Schulze

Re: REQ: Passenger Lists and Greeks

Legg inn av Lorine McGinnis Schulze » 30 sep 2004 19:36:07

On 30 Sep 2004 at 1:43, BigPoppa wrote:

curious about what to do when you cannot find someone on a
passenger lists. I am trying to get information about my
grandfather, Kostas Dumas (or Doumas, not sure) who was
Greek but the WW1 Draft registration listed him as coming
from Turkey. Any resources or ideas? Thanks. -- John



Hi John

If you don't have a good timeframe for his immigration
year, I'd start with the census records.

The 1900, 1910 ,1920 and 1930 census identify citizenship
status, with notations showing the individual was an
Alien,
or had started the Naturalization process or had his final
papers. The year of immigration is also shown. 1920 also
nicely provides a year of naturalization.

You can read more about the value of census records in
your
search for an immigrant ancestor at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/census.shtml


To find out what questions were asked on various census
records
see
http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/tQuestions.html

There is an explanation and Resource Guide to
Naturalization
Records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/

For a Resource Guide to the records, what you can expect
to
find, where to find them, and alternate sources of finding
those important years (immigration and naturalization) at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ Read the intro
then
choose your state of interest.

There are also many links to searchable online
naturalization records at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/

Choose your state of interest from the list at the bottom
of the page then click on ONLINE records.

Then I'd start checking indexes for his arrival. Most
states are indexed so that should help you.

Once you know your ancestor's state of entry, you can
search microfilms. You can order films in to a nearby
Family History Centre, or have NARA do the job (once you
have precise details)

Once you know your state, you can get a list of film
numbers (NARA & FHC) at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nar ... port.shtml

Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link,
then find the film # you need

There are some ideas for researching hard to find
ancestors
on ships lists after 1820 at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/usaaft1820.shtml

For more ideas go to
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/articles.shtml and
scroll down to "Emigration, Immigration & Passenger Lists"
to
make your choice.

Also, if you think he came in via NY after 1894, you can
search the online Ellis Island database. A good place to
start is at Steve Morse's One-Step Search Engines at
http://www.stevemorse.org/


Lorine



**Search over 5,000 Ships Passenger Lists to USA
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml
**Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/sea ... nada.shtml
** Naturalization Records at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~
otg@csolve.net

saki

Re: REQ: Passenger Lists

Legg inn av saki » 01 okt 2004 22:32:54

otg@csolve.net ("Lorine McGinnis Schulze") wrote in
news:415BE7FE.25390.A0BC21@localhost:

Once you know your state, you can get a list of film
numbers (NARA & FHC) at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nar ... port.shtml

Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link,
then find the film # you need

If I could chime in here...thanks to your helpful info I was just able
(not ten minutes ago) to find my great-grandfather Hans Petersen and his
parents, Lorenz P. and Margarethe, on the ship "Hansa" sailing on April
5, 1872 from Liverpool to NY. Since they came from Schleswig-Holstein I
assume they foudn their way to Liverpool via some other means.

The ship's log here:

http://www.horlacher.org/germany/hamburg/hampeterd.htm

Also indicates ages, which is very helpful to me. I've verified that
Lorenz and Margarethe's ages work out proportionally with their ages in
the 1880 census. And it clears up the mystery of what Lorenz' real name
was; in the census he's indexed as "Seame".

I've located Hans' declaration of intent in Nebraska (1883) and obtained
a copy of it. Would his final natualization papers be available from the
county clerk in Nebraska or via the family history library microfiche?

----
saki@ucla.edu

BigPoppa

Re: REQ: Passenger Lists and Greeks

Legg inn av BigPoppa » 10 okt 2004 15:52:30

In article <1OV6d.8133$Ki1.5971@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Sharon Regina Wethly <sharon.wethly@earthlink.net> wrote:

I found a listing of when my great grandfather came over at
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/

For a fee they can give you a hardcopy of the information.

Thank you all for your information, I will look at all the sites and
see what I can find out.

For everyone know suggested Ellis Island, I have already tried that
one. It didn't help me with my grandfather but did help with my
grandmother and a great grandfather.

Again, thanks to all.

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