lookup please 1850? Wilhelmina Hunt, in London UK

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Alan Illeman

lookup please 1850? Wilhelmina Hunt, in London UK

Legg inn av Alan Illeman » 18 sep 2004 13:48:57

Related to William Hughes Hunt
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... ?HOUSEHOLD
_CODE=1881BR_4636642&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99

Maggie Hunt was my grandmother. On her wedding certificate (1901) there are
two
witnesses: Wilhelmina Hunt and John L. Topliss.

The groom, my grandfather was Robert Illemann. Maggie and Robert have the
same address on wedding certificate, something that always puzzled us,
until we found in the 1901 UK Census that they had separate households at
that address, and... Robert Illemann was mispelled as Robert Elleman..
(probably the house owner filled out the census form and made that mistake).
Census also says that he was "born in America" but we've been unable to
find anything (so far) or for his father, Louis Illemann.

The ILLEMANN family originates in Germany/Denmark, see
http://surfbest.net/~illemann@surfbest.net/illemann.htm
(which has not been updated with the familysearch info yet)

Thanks in advance,
Alan (replace illemann with alananne for email)
Toronto. Canada.

Alan Illeman

Re: lookup please 1850? Wilhelmina Hunt, in London UK

Legg inn av Alan Illeman » 19 sep 2004 22:01:20

"Alan Illeman" <illemann@surfbest.net> wrote in message
news:10ko84gnmtjv7d1@news.supernews.com...
Related to William Hughes Hunt

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... ?HOUSEHOLD
_CODE=1881BR_4636642&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99

Maggie Hunt was my grandmother. On her wedding certificate (1901) there
are two witnesses: Wilhelmina Hunt and John L. Topliss.

The groom, my grandfather was Robert Illemann. Maggie and Robert have the
same address on wedding certificate, something that always puzzled us,
until we found in the 1901 UK Census that they had separate households at
that address, and... Robert Illemann was mispelled as Robert Elleman..
(probably the house owner filled out the census form and made that
mistake).
Census also says that he was "born in America" but we've been unable to
find anything (so far) or for his father, Louis Illemann.

The ILLEMANN family originates in Germany/Denmark, see
http://surfbest.net/~illemann@surfbest.net/illemann.htm
(which has not been updated with the familysearch info yet)

Thanks in advance,
Alan (replace illemann with alananne for email)
Toronto. Canada.

My sister in the UK just emailed me this "I have a copy of the census
register 1901 showing Wilhelmina Hunt, General Servant (Domestic),
in the household of Harry and Hilda Mason at 2 Hendham Road,
Springfield ward, Wandsworth, London. Single, aged 17, born
Yorkshire, Bradford. The ref of the sheet is RG13/48 I deduced that
having followed her elder sister to London, she was the nearest
member of the family and so witnessed the wedding of Maggie and
Robert."

Can anyone confirm this birth, etc?

CWatters

Re: lookup please 1850? Wilhelmina Hunt, in London UK

Legg inn av CWatters » 26 sep 2004 22:18:27

Nearest I could see in the UK 1901 is...

Name Age Where Born Administrative County Civil Parish Occupation
Louis Herrmann 27 America U S A Foreign Sub London Hackney House
Painter

Might be worth looking at the image in case "ILL" has been transcribed
as an "H" somehow.

There are only 17 other Louis in the census - any idea what is
occupation might have been?

This one from FreeBMD looks like it might also be one of yours?....

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Births Sep 1902
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Illemann Lord Louis R Pancras 1b 48

Perhaps he inherited his title - eg father died during the previous 9
months?

Colin

CWatters

Re: lookup please 1850? Wilhelmina Hunt, in London UK

Legg inn av CWatters » 26 sep 2004 22:21:52

Not sure which if any of these two are your Wilhelmina....

Marriages Sep 1849
Hunt Wilhelmina Elizabeth Mark Jane Pancras St 1316

Marriages Mar 1907
Hunt Wilhelmina Birkenhead 8a722

Alan Illeman

Re: lookup please 1850? Wilhelmina Hunt, in London UK

Legg inn av Alan Illeman » 27 sep 2004 16:56:34

"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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Nearest I could see in the UK 1901 is...

Name Age Where Born Administrative County Civil Parish Occupation
Louis Herrmann 27 America U S A Foreign Sub London Hackney House
Painter

Might be worth looking at the image in case "ILL" has been transcribed
as an "H" somehow.

There are only 17 other Louis in the census - any idea what is
occupation might have been?

This one from FreeBMD looks like it might also be one of yours?....

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Births Sep 1902
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Illemann Lord Louis R Pancras 1b 48

Perhaps he inherited his title - eg father died during the previous 9
months?

Not sure which if any of these two are your Wilhelmina....

Marriages Sep 1849
Hunt Wilhelmina Elizabeth Mark Jane Pancras St 1316

Marriages Mar 1907
Hunt Wilhelmina Birkenhead 8a722

Thanks Colin. Yes, my father's name was Lord Louis Robert Illemann
but think the "Lord" was some sort of cruel joke. Our family only knew
him as Robert (Bob for short) Illeman (no second 'n')

My grandmother's name was Maggie Hunt and I think
<http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOL
D_CODE=1881BR_4636642&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99>
is the family. My sister thinks that Wilhelmina was born later but I'm not
to sure
as the very name "Wilhelmina" is so foreign (possibly German) sounding.

Where did you find those two references?

Regards,
Alan (replace illemann with alananne for email)

CWatters

Re: lookup please 1850? Wilhelmina Hunt, in London UK

Legg inn av CWatters » 28 sep 2004 18:58:34

"Alan Illeman" <illemann@surfbest.net> wrote in message
news:10lgagbe9jnta9b@news.supernews.com...


Not sure which if any of these two are your Wilhelmina....

Marriages Sep 1849
Hunt Wilhelmina Elizabeth Mark Jane Pancras St 1316

Marriages Mar 1907
Hunt Wilhelmina Birkenhead 8a 722

Where did you find those two references?

They were from FreeBMD...

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

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