Handwriting help: possible answer?

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Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av saki » 25 aug 2004 03:50:50

Earlier today I asked whether anyone could readily identify this fellow's
first name from the 1880 Nebraska census in Belle Prairie Township,
Fillmore County; here's a snippet of the handwriting:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/Upload/firstname.jpg

He's indexed as Seame P. Petersen but Tara kindly pointed out that L and S
are written very similarly. She couldn't make out the rest of the name,
though, and I couldn't either at first because of all the calligraphic
flourishes and extra-appearing strokes in the handwriting.

Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?

There's a fellow in the 1880 Utah census indexed as Loren P. Petersen
(different guy) and the entry has the L looking just like the S. Maybe this
one is actually Soren too.

My L.P. Petersen is listed as the father of the groom on my great-
grandparents' marriage certificate, but maybe the clerk wrote it down wrong
and he's really S.P. Petersen.

Does that make sense?

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Larry

Re: Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av Larry » 25 aug 2004 03:50:51

I think it is an L ? Maybe Leorn(a) ? Possibly an attempt to shorten
Leonardo ?

Definately no expert... Just a suggestion... Good Luck


"saki" <saki@ucla.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns954FAB6EBD3B4sakiuclaedu@169.232.47.140...
Earlier today I asked whether anyone could readily identify this fellow's
first name from the 1880 Nebraska census in Belle Prairie Township,
Fillmore County; here's a snippet of the handwriting:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/Upload/firstname.jpg

He's indexed as Seame P. Petersen but Tara kindly pointed out that L and S
are written very similarly. She couldn't make out the rest of the name,
though, and I couldn't either at first because of all the calligraphic
flourishes and extra-appearing strokes in the handwriting.

Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?

There's a fellow in the 1880 Utah census indexed as Loren P. Petersen
(different guy) and the entry has the L looking just like the S. Maybe
this
one is actually Soren too.

My L.P. Petersen is listed as the father of the groom on my great-
grandparents' marriage certificate, but maybe the clerk wrote it down
wrong
and he's really S.P. Petersen.

Does that make sense?

----
saki@ucla.edu

Tazmadazz

Re: Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av Tazmadazz » 25 aug 2004 03:50:51

It looks like Lorne, do you have any more of the page that might have that
census takers use or "orn" together, that would show if that's how he/she
writes that combination of letters.

Taz

"saki" <saki@ucla.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns954FAB6EBD3B4sakiuclaedu@169.232.47.140...
Earlier today I asked whether anyone could readily identify this fellow's
first name from the 1880 Nebraska census in Belle Prairie Township,
Fillmore County; here's a snippet of the handwriting:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/Upload/firstname.jpg

He's indexed as Seame P. Petersen but Tara kindly pointed out that L and S
are written very similarly. She couldn't make out the rest of the name,
though, and I couldn't either at first because of all the calligraphic
flourishes and extra-appearing strokes in the handwriting.

Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?

There's a fellow in the 1880 Utah census indexed as Loren P. Petersen
(different guy) and the entry has the L looking just like the S. Maybe
this
one is actually Soren too.

My L.P. Petersen is listed as the father of the groom on my great-
grandparents' marriage certificate, but maybe the clerk wrote it down
wrong
and he's really S.P. Petersen.

Does that make sense?

----
saki@ucla.edu

Huntersglenn

Re: Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 25 aug 2004 03:50:51

saki wrote:
Earlier today I asked whether anyone could readily identify this fellow's
first name from the 1880 Nebraska census in Belle Prairie Township,
Fillmore County; here's a snippet of the handwriting:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/Upload/firstname.jpg

He's indexed as Seame P. Petersen but Tara kindly pointed out that L and S
are written very similarly. She couldn't make out the rest of the name,
though, and I couldn't either at first because of all the calligraphic
flourishes and extra-appearing strokes in the handwriting.

Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?

There's a fellow in the 1880 Utah census indexed as Loren P. Petersen
(different guy) and the entry has the L looking just like the S. Maybe this
one is actually Soren too.

My L.P. Petersen is listed as the father of the groom on my great-
grandparents' marriage certificate, but maybe the clerk wrote it down wrong
and he's really S.P. Petersen.

Does that make sense?


It could very well be Seame, though. It IS an actual name. I'm not sure
what nationality it's from (although the majority of the Grimm stories
were German tales), but there is a Brothers Grimm character with that
name in the story "The Griffin", from 1812:

http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~wbarker/fairies/grimm/g165.html

As for what the clerk wrote, I think that anything is possible. One of
my great grandfathers was named John Caleb Phelps, and on the marriage
license the clerk wrote what appears to be John R. Phelps. I have no
idea where they would get an R from. At first I thought it was a K, but
the more I looked at it, the more I saw that it was an R.

Remember that you're looking at what the clerk (and in the case of the
census) the enumerator, thought he heard.

Cathy

J. W. Love

Re: Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av J. W. Love » 25 aug 2004 13:28:17

Saki wrote:

Earlier today I asked whether anyone could readily
identify this fellow's first name from the 1880 Nebraska
census in Belle Prairie Township, Fillmore County;
here's a snippet of the handwriting:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/Upload/firstname.jpg

He's indexed as Seame P. Petersen but Tara kindly
pointed out that L and S are written very similarly. She
couldn't make out the rest of the name, though, and I
couldn't either at first because of all the calligraphic
flourishes and extra-appearing strokes in the
handwriting.

Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?

The first name looks like Searne (SEARNE) to me.

singhals

Re: Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av singhals » 25 aug 2004 15:14:32

saki wrote:


Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?

Isn't Soren a "real" Danish name?

Cheryl

Don Keydik

Re: Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av Don Keydik » 27 aug 2004 04:04:15

It looks like "Jeame" to me.

Steve

"saki" <saki@ucla.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns954FAB6EBD3B4sakiuclaedu@169.232.47.140...
Earlier today I asked whether anyone could readily identify this fellow's
first name from the 1880 Nebraska census in Belle Prairie Township,
Fillmore County; here's a snippet of the handwriting:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/Upload/firstname.jpg

He's indexed as Seame P. Petersen but Tara kindly pointed out that L and S
are written very similarly. She couldn't make out the rest of the name,
though, and I couldn't either at first because of all the calligraphic
flourishes and extra-appearing strokes in the handwriting.

Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?

There's a fellow in the 1880 Utah census indexed as Loren P. Petersen
(different guy) and the entry has the L looking just like the S. Maybe
this
one is actually Soren too.

My L.P. Petersen is listed as the father of the groom on my great-
grandparents' marriage certificate, but maybe the clerk wrote it down
wrong
and he's really S.P. Petersen.

Does that make sense?

----
saki@ucla.edu

Ron

Re: Handwriting help: possible answer?

Legg inn av Ron » 27 aug 2004 05:45:24

saki wrote:
Earlier today I asked whether anyone could readily identify this fellow's
first name from the 1880 Nebraska census in Belle Prairie Township,
Fillmore County; here's a snippet of the handwriting:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/hep/Upload/firstname.jpg

He's indexed as Seame P. Petersen but Tara kindly pointed out that L and S
are written very similarly. She couldn't make out the rest of the name,
though, and I couldn't either at first because of all the calligraphic
flourishes and extra-appearing strokes in the handwriting.

Could this be either Loren or Soren P. Petersen?



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saki@ucla.edu
I support the LOREN reading


Compare to the Louretta or Liuretta done the page - the L seems to have
extra twirl tail in both cases

What a mess the Roobert is

Is it Cariline - but then no dot over the first i but one over the a

--
Ron Lankshear - Sydney Aust (from London- Shepherds Bush & Chiswick)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lankshear/

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