http://www.dnatribes.com/order.html
I use to 'do' genealogy but it stopped when I got to going into Russia
on one side, and the other side was so screwed up they all under court
orders and I ran out of money asking for copies.
But the 'bug' stayed with me and I'd wouldn't mind finding out
something like this.
But there are so many rip offs, I'd like to check here for comments.
Thanks
Is this a rip?
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Nick Bassard
Re: Is this a rip?
Dunno about those "dnatribes.com" guys. I am reluctant to spend money
on testing.
That leaves the free testees:
http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx
I've been sitting on the fence regarding SMGF.ORG. Apparently the give
free testing, and have been giving tests and seminars to various BIG
genealogy societies. Could be the mother of all "DNA/connect family
trees" in the future. I might request a test from them soon. I am
worried about who will have access to my DNA -many years from now-, I
don't want an insurance company to get a hold of my DNA and deny my
grandchildren coverage.
I'd hate to have my gggg-grandchildren see my DNA on Google someday, my
DNA proving that I was an idiot. LOL
I am not an affiliate of SMGF.ORG, message is not spam, message is just
an opinion.
Ace wrote:
on testing.
That leaves the free testees:
http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx
I've been sitting on the fence regarding SMGF.ORG. Apparently the give
free testing, and have been giving tests and seminars to various BIG
genealogy societies. Could be the mother of all "DNA/connect family
trees" in the future. I might request a test from them soon. I am
worried about who will have access to my DNA -many years from now-, I
don't want an insurance company to get a hold of my DNA and deny my
grandchildren coverage.
I'd hate to have my gggg-grandchildren see my DNA on Google someday, my
DNA proving that I was an idiot. LOL
I am not an affiliate of SMGF.ORG, message is not spam, message is just
an opinion.
Ace wrote:
http://www.dnatribes.com/order.html
I use to 'do' genealogy but it stopped when I got to going into Russia
on one side, and the other side was so screwed up they all under court
orders and I ran out of money asking for copies.
But the 'bug' stayed with me and I'd wouldn't mind finding out
something like this.
But there are so many rip offs, I'd like to check here for comments.
Thanks
-
The Kat
Re: Is this a rip?
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:24:05 GMT, Nick Bassard <`@`.`> wrote:
I still don't quite understand what "you won't get anything
back from us" means.
Do they not give you ANY personal results,
or do they just mean you get the results from their website?
Has anyone used them??
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Dunno about those "dnatribes.com" guys. I am reluctant to spend money
on testing.
That leaves the free testees:
http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx
I still don't quite understand what "you won't get anything
back from us" means.
Do they not give you ANY personal results,
or do they just mean you get the results from their website?
Has anyone used them??
--
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Michael Kenefick
Re: Is this a rip?
I have returned my free kit in November 2007. As of yet, they have not tested
it. In January the founder died. I wonder if he funded the project well enough
to keep going after his passing? They do not send you the results. You go to
their site and view. I was under the impression you could print or copy the
info and check it against other sites and possibly vice versa.
Maybe try http://www.familytreedna.com. They give a slight discount if you are tested
in one of their ?groups?. I received the Y DNA 37 plus mt DNA test as a Xmas
present and was tested under Weaver family group. It took them a few weeks to
get it all done. Mid December 2007 - February 2008.
Strange but odd, my sister had her test done a year or two ago. We did not
match! She had a mutation that I did not have. So we do not show on the
results page together. They are going to recheck both our results to verify.
FTD stated this mt DNA type of mutation are rare but do happen. Yes, we are
certain about our parentage 8>)
For the mt DNA it opened my eyes a little. I was thinking in terms of my
mothers father was the family to concentrate the search. But that is not quite
the way the mt DNA goes. It is only my mothers, mothers, mothers, mothers,
mothers etc... Still I have the back ground on the husbands of many of those
mothers. That helps fill in the blanks. Quality of quantity.
Mike Kenefick in Ohio
.......
it. In January the founder died. I wonder if he funded the project well enough
to keep going after his passing? They do not send you the results. You go to
their site and view. I was under the impression you could print or copy the
info and check it against other sites and possibly vice versa.
Maybe try http://www.familytreedna.com. They give a slight discount if you are tested
in one of their ?groups?. I received the Y DNA 37 plus mt DNA test as a Xmas
present and was tested under Weaver family group. It took them a few weeks to
get it all done. Mid December 2007 - February 2008.
Strange but odd, my sister had her test done a year or two ago. We did not
match! She had a mutation that I did not have. So we do not show on the
results page together. They are going to recheck both our results to verify.
FTD stated this mt DNA type of mutation are rare but do happen. Yes, we are
certain about our parentage 8>)
For the mt DNA it opened my eyes a little. I was thinking in terms of my
mothers father was the family to concentrate the search. But that is not quite
the way the mt DNA goes. It is only my mothers, mothers, mothers, mothers,
mothers etc... Still I have the back ground on the husbands of many of those
mothers. That helps fill in the blanks. Quality of quantity.
Mike Kenefick in Ohio
.......
http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx
I still don't quite understand what "you won't get anything
back from us" means.
Do they not give you ANY personal results,
or do they just mean you get the results from their website?
Has anyone used them??
-
Huntersglenn
Re: Is this a rip?
The way I understand it, the DNA used for genealogy-oriented testing is
not the same as what would be tested to see if you carry any inherited
diseases, so it could not be used in the future to deny you insurance.
However, the DNA used by DNAtribes IS the same as the DNA used by law
enforcement (and for paternity testing), so it might carry that risk.
The usual genealogy testing only goes for your direct ancestors - the
Y-DNA or mtDNA (Y being the male line, the mtDNA being the female line,
no male DNA included). So, if you're a woman, you can ONLY test for
mtDNA, because you do not carry that genetic DNA from your father. A
male, however, has genetic DNA from both his mother and father, and can
be tested for both. He will not pass on his mother's genetic DNA to his
children, only his father's DNA, and then that will not go to his daughter.
The DNA tested by law enforcement agencies is different (although I hate
to use that word because it conjures up images of different batches of
DNA floating around our bodies, and that's not the case. They test only
certain things - so if you've had paternity testing done, then you can
use those results to get an analysis at DNAtribes. This DNA will pick
up on more than just your direct line, so you can have a result that
shows the mixture of all of your ancestors. They then take these
results and match them against testing done with people in specific
areas of the world. So there might be 56% match between you and people
in a certain region of France, or between you and people who are part
European and part Navajo. This does not mean that you really ARE
descended from those two groups, just that you closely match people who
are. You still need to use proper genealogical research, combined
perhaps with family stories, to determine if their results accurately
describe your ancestry (at least this is what I understand after reading
through their FAQ).
FamilyTree DNA has a forum section devoted to the results of DNAtribes
testing, there's also a RootsWeb group for them. So, they aren't a rip
off, but they're also not the same as the other DNA testing groups,
since they're not testing for the same things.
It's a simplistic explanation, and leaves a lot to be desired, but my
recommendation, if you're looking into DNA testing for genealogy
purposes is to do the standard testing first. Then, if you know for
certain that you have ancestors who were X (Native American, Cajun,
North African, etc.), but the DNA testing doesn't reflect this, then you
can opt for the testing done by DNAtribes, which would then either
confirm your knowledge or further cement the results of the other testing.
Cathy
Nick Bassard wrote:
not the same as what would be tested to see if you carry any inherited
diseases, so it could not be used in the future to deny you insurance.
However, the DNA used by DNAtribes IS the same as the DNA used by law
enforcement (and for paternity testing), so it might carry that risk.
The usual genealogy testing only goes for your direct ancestors - the
Y-DNA or mtDNA (Y being the male line, the mtDNA being the female line,
no male DNA included). So, if you're a woman, you can ONLY test for
mtDNA, because you do not carry that genetic DNA from your father. A
male, however, has genetic DNA from both his mother and father, and can
be tested for both. He will not pass on his mother's genetic DNA to his
children, only his father's DNA, and then that will not go to his daughter.
The DNA tested by law enforcement agencies is different (although I hate
to use that word because it conjures up images of different batches of
DNA floating around our bodies, and that's not the case. They test only
certain things - so if you've had paternity testing done, then you can
use those results to get an analysis at DNAtribes. This DNA will pick
up on more than just your direct line, so you can have a result that
shows the mixture of all of your ancestors. They then take these
results and match them against testing done with people in specific
areas of the world. So there might be 56% match between you and people
in a certain region of France, or between you and people who are part
European and part Navajo. This does not mean that you really ARE
descended from those two groups, just that you closely match people who
are. You still need to use proper genealogical research, combined
perhaps with family stories, to determine if their results accurately
describe your ancestry (at least this is what I understand after reading
through their FAQ).
FamilyTree DNA has a forum section devoted to the results of DNAtribes
testing, there's also a RootsWeb group for them. So, they aren't a rip
off, but they're also not the same as the other DNA testing groups,
since they're not testing for the same things.
It's a simplistic explanation, and leaves a lot to be desired, but my
recommendation, if you're looking into DNA testing for genealogy
purposes is to do the standard testing first. Then, if you know for
certain that you have ancestors who were X (Native American, Cajun,
North African, etc.), but the DNA testing doesn't reflect this, then you
can opt for the testing done by DNAtribes, which would then either
confirm your knowledge or further cement the results of the other testing.
Cathy
Nick Bassard wrote:
Dunno about those "dnatribes.com" guys. I am reluctant to spend money
on testing.
That leaves the free testees:
http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx
I've been sitting on the fence regarding SMGF.ORG. Apparently the give
free testing, and have been giving tests and seminars to various BIG
genealogy societies. Could be the mother of all "DNA/connect family
trees" in the future. I might request a test from them soon. I am
worried about who will have access to my DNA -many years from now-, I
don't want an insurance company to get a hold of my DNA and deny my
grandchildren coverage.
I'd hate to have my gggg-grandchildren see my DNA on Google someday, my
DNA proving that I was an idiot. LOL
I am not an affiliate of SMGF.ORG, message is not spam, message is just
an opinion.
Ace wrote:
http://www.dnatribes.com/order.html
I use to 'do' genealogy but it stopped when I got to going into Russia
on one side, and the other side was so screwed up they all under court
orders and I ran out of money asking for copies.
But the 'bug' stayed with me and I'd wouldn't mind finding out
something like this.
But there are so many rip offs, I'd like to check here for comments.
Thanks
-
Dennis
Re: Is this a rip?
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:45:41 -0800, The Kat <news1@katxyzkave.net>
wrote:
This means you will have to use their search feature to try and find
your results. I sent mine in 6 weeks ago. I plan to look for mine every
month or so. It will probably not be too difficult for me to see when my
results first appear (since I have a rare surname), but determining the
exact marker values using their lame search feature might take some
doing.
What do you want for free?
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Dennis
wrote:
That leaves the free testees:
http://www.smgf.org/index.jspx
I still don't quite understand what "you won't get anything
back from us" means.
Do they not give you ANY personal results,
or do they just mean you get the results from their website?
Has anyone used them??
This means you will have to use their search feature to try and find
your results. I sent mine in 6 weeks ago. I plan to look for mine every
month or so. It will probably not be too difficult for me to see when my
results first appear (since I have a rare surname), but determining the
exact marker values using their lame search feature might take some
doing.
What do you want for free?
--
Dennis
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Ace
Re: Is this a rip? -OP
"Michael Kenefick" <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:47BCCA00.6060406@sbcglobal.net...
You do mean DNAtribes? And then I'll look into it more.
Thanks
news:47BCCA00.6060406@sbcglobal.net...
I have returned my free kit in November 2007. As of yet, they have
not tested it. In January the founder died. I wonder if he funded
the project well enough to keep going after his passing? They do not
send you the results. You go to their site and view. I was under
the impression you could print or copy the info and check it against
other sites and possibly vice versa.
You do mean DNAtribes? And then I'll look into it more.
Thanks
-
Ace
Re: Is this a rip?
Maybe try http://www.familytreedna.com. They give a slight discount if you
are tested in one of their ?groups?. I received the Y DNA 37 plus
mt DNA test as a Xmas present and was tested under Weaver family
group. It took them a few weeks to get it all done. Mid December
2007 - February 2008.
How much they charge? I'm not a member.
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Michael Kenefick
Re: Is this a rip? -OP
Sorry, the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation free test, http://www.smgf.org.
Ace wrote:
Ace wrote:
"Michael Kenefick" <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:47BCCA00.6060406@sbcglobal.net...
I have returned my free kit in November 2007. As of yet, they have
not tested it. In January the founder died. I wonder if he funded
the project well enough to keep going after his passing? They do not
send you the results. You go to their site and view. I was under
the impression you could print or copy the info and check it against
other sites and possibly vice versa.
You do mean DNAtribes? And then I'll look into it more.
Thanks
-
Michael Kenefick
Re: Is this a rip?
It was a present to me. But in exploring the site, I saw a list of the costs
http://www.familytreedna.com/products.html. I cannot remember where I saw the
discount list, though.
Mike in Ohio
Ace wrote:
http://www.familytreedna.com/products.html. I cannot remember where I saw the
discount list, though.
Mike in Ohio
Ace wrote:
Maybe try http://www.familytreedna.com. They give a slight discount if you
are tested in one of their ?groups?. I received the Y DNA 37 plus
mt DNA test as a Xmas present and was tested under Weaver family
group. It took them a few weeks to get it all done. Mid December
2007 - February 2008.
How much they charge? I'm not a member.