Rootsweb message boards and advertising

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Phil Holm

Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Phil Holm » 9. februar 2008 kl. 17.14

When did Rootsweb start to allow advertising on its message
boards? I had thought that advertising was not allowed.
Rootsweb community guide lines states " Don't post
commercial messages, fee-for-service postings, advertising
or related links, etc. "

I see that many of the Minnesota counties were greeted with
this and similar today.
<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.minnesota.counties.stearns/3349/mb.ashx>

Phil Holm

Hugh Watkins

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 9. februar 2008 kl. 19.17

Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:15:26 -0600, Phil Holm wrote:

When did Rootsweb start to allow advertising on its message
boards? I had thought that advertising was not allowed.
Rootsweb community guide lines states " Don't post
commercial messages, fee-for-service postings, advertising
or related links, etc. "

Still applies. The snag is, anybody can sign up, post an advert, then
unsubscribe to almost any number of lists before they get found out. I'm
surprised it doesn't happen more often, TBH.

we volunteer adminstrators delete / conceal such messages as soon as spotted

http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.n ... ns/mb.ashx


if a big or neglected case or not on one of our own boards
we use the report abuse button by the reply button
see
EG

http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.n ... 32/mb.ashx

add the text
attention staff
if seriously problematic

to gain knowledge why not volunteer to help with a board or two
the rules
http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html

Volunteer to be an Admin
There can only be one administrator for each message board. You will

know if the board you would like to administer is available, by looking
in the "What can I do now?" box. If there is a link to "Volunteer to
Admin" that means the board is available to "adopt." If the link is not
visible, the "Board Information" link will tell you who the current
admin is.

To volunteer, click on the "Volunteer to Admin" link. Please read
carefully through the information and select "submit" to volunteer. Your
request will be reviewed by the board staff and you will receive an
e-mail confirmation that your request to volunteer was granted or rejected.
<<

Hugh W








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Brad Rogers

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Brad Rogers » 10. februar 2008 kl. 0.07

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:17:21 +0100, Hugh Watkins wrote:

we volunteer adminstrators delete / conceal such messages as soon as spotted

I'm sure you do. I didn't mean to imply that administrators are anything
less than vigilant. I only meant that such attacks happen faster than the
admin staff can cancel the messages. It's inevitable really, as there are
far more spammers than there are list administrators.

My apologies for the (unintended) insult.

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

There's no point in asking you'll get no reply
Pretty Vacant - Sex Pistols

Charani

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Charani » 10. februar 2008 kl. 10.34

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:07:22 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:

I'm sure you do. I didn't mean to imply that administrators are anything
less than vigilant. I only meant that such attacks happen faster than the
admin staff can cancel the messages. It's inevitable really, as there are
far more spammers than there are list administrators.

If someone is subscribed to a list/message board, places an ad, then
usubs again, nothing will stop the ad going through. Certainly with
regard to the lists, an admin can't delete or conceal any ad
themselves. The only thing an admin can do in such a case is contact
the Help-Desk to get said ad removed. The boards are slightly
different in that I believe the admin can remove ads themselves.

It's only when a non member of a list tries to place an ad that a list
admin can discard it so that it doesn't get seen.

Brad Rogers

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Brad Rogers » 10. februar 2008 kl. 13.23

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:37:32 +0000, Charani wrote:

If someone is subscribed to a list/message board, places an ad, then
usubs again, nothing will stop the ad going through. Certainly with

As I'm finding out. I run a small mailing list, and am starting to see
odd things there. The snag is that some of the legitimate members are so
clueless regarding mailing lists, it sometimes makes it hard to sort the
wheat from the chaff.

the Help-Desk to get said ad removed. The boards are slightly
different in that I believe the admin can remove ads themselves.

I loathe web-based message forums. Having to go to all those web sites,
log in, look for new messages (okay, they're usually flagged), read, and
if necessary, reply. I fail to see the point when an email client can be
configured to connect to as many mail servers as required (normally one),
d/l all the mail, sort it in to appropriate places, flag anything of
special importance, etc, etc. It's just so much more convenient.

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

I'm spending all my money and it's going up my nose
Teenage Depression - Eddie & The Hot Rods

Hugh Watkins

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 10. februar 2008 kl. 17.09

Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:37:32 +0000, Charani wrote:

If someone is subscribed to a list/message board, places an ad, then
usubs again, nothing will stop the ad going through. Certainly with

As I'm finding out. I run a small mailing list, and am starting to see
odd things there. The snag is that some of the legitimate members are so
clueless regarding mailing lists, it sometimes makes it hard to sort the
wheat from the chaff.

the Help-Desk to get said ad removed. The boards are slightly
different in that I believe the admin can remove ads themselves.

I loathe web-based message forums. Having to go to all those web sites,
log in, look for new messages (okay, they're usually flagged), read, and
if necessary, reply. I fail to see the point when an email client can be
configured to connect to as many mail servers as required (normally one),
d/l all the mail, sort it in to appropriate places, flag anything of
special importance, etc, etc. It's just so much more convenient.

notice boards AKA forums get long term results

you may get a reply years later

modern systems send a notification by email when there is a new message
or a reply

so as a Rootsweb admin you get notifed with in a minute of each post if
you wish

Hugh W

--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

singhals

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av singhals » 10. februar 2008 kl. 17.23

Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:37:32 +0000, Charani wrote:


If someone is subscribed to a list/message board, places an ad, then
usubs again, nothing will stop the ad going through. Certainly with


As I'm finding out. I run a small mailing list, and am starting to see
odd things there. The snag is that some of the legitimate members are so
clueless regarding mailing lists, it sometimes makes it hard to sort the
wheat from the chaff.


the Help-Desk to get said ad removed. The boards are slightly
different in that I believe the admin can remove ads themselves.


I loathe web-based message forums. Having to go to all those web sites,
log in, look for new messages (okay, they're usually flagged), read, and
if necessary, reply. I fail to see the point when an email client can be
configured to connect to as many mail servers as required (normally one),
d/l all the mail, sort it in to appropriate places, flag anything of
special importance, etc, etc. It's just so much more convenient.


I suggest you sign up for the admin notices on a one-of
basis, then. They come with a link to be clicked which
takes you directly to the right message.

And for other RW message boards, the notices also include a
hot-link to be clicked. It's never asked me for a log-in to
view the message, only to reply to it.

And no, it's not picking up an old cookie -- my system
clears cookies and empties cache each time I close the
browser, which is several times a day.

Cheryl
another RW-list/board admin

Brad Rogers

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Brad Rogers » 10. februar 2008 kl. 23.35

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:23:48 -0500, singhals wrote:

I suggest you sign up for the admin notices on a one-of
basis, then. They come with a link to be clicked which
takes you directly to the right message.

But that still requires extra effort on my part.

Yeah, I know, I want jam on it. :-)

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

Bet you thought you knew what I was about
Problem - Sex Pistols

Brad Rogers

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Brad Rogers » 10. februar 2008 kl. 23.35

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:09:08 +0100, Hugh Watkins wrote:

notice boards AKA forums get long term results
you may get a reply years later

True, but the same applies to mailing lists. Although requires that
respondents search the archives. Not many do, I'll freely admit.

modern systems send a notification by email when there is a new message
or a reply

Yes, but like I said to Cheryl.... :-)

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

I'll tell you something, I think that you should know
Rich Kids - Rich Kids

singhals

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av singhals » 11. februar 2008 kl. 16.24

Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:23:48 -0500, singhals wrote:


I suggest you sign up for the admin notices on a one-of
basis, then. They come with a link to be clicked which
takes you directly to the right message.


But that still requires extra effort on my part.

Yeah, I know, I want jam on it. :-)


Many of the message boards are gatewayed to an associated
mailing list. None of _mine_ are, but many others are. (g)

Cheryl

Brad Rogers

Re: Rootsweb message boards and advertising

Legg inn av Brad Rogers » 12. februar 2008 kl. 20.44

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:24:12 -0500, singhals wrote:

Many of the message boards are gatewayed to an associated
mailing list. None of _mine_ are, but many others are. (g)

:-)

RootsWeb truly stuffed up with the new gates system, IMO.

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

The man in a tracksuit attacks me
I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs

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