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Dennis & Bonnie French

obit info left out

Legg inn av Dennis & Bonnie French » 7. februar 2008 kl. 16.31

My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to be home at the
time, gave the information to the funeral home for Dad's obituary. Imagine
my chagrin as a dabbler in genealogy, that he did not include my father's
mother and father in the obit....
Just goes to show how this kind of stuff happens.
Bonnie

clifto

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Legg inn av clifto » 7. februar 2008 kl. 16.46

Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:
My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to be home at the
time, gave the information to the funeral home for Dad's obituary. Imagine
my chagrin as a dabbler in genealogy, that he did not include my father's
mother and father in the obit....

My uncle handled the details for my father, and as well as he seemed to
know the family history, he apparently misspelled his own mother's maiden
name. I stubbornly clung to that spelling for over a year before I finally
eased up a bit and discovered evidence that there was a 't' missing from the
spelling uncle gave.

--
God help us all,
The next President of the United States will be a liberal.

Christopher Jahn

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Legg inn av Christopher Jahn » 7. februar 2008 kl. 18.00

clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4olr75-8ks.ln1@remote.clifto.com:

Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:
My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to
be home at the time, gave the information to the funeral home
for Dad's obituary. Imagine my chagrin as a dabbler in
genealogy, that he did not include my father's mother and
father in the obit....

My uncle handled the details for my father, and as well as he
seemed to know the family history, he apparently misspelled
his own mother's maiden name. I stubbornly clung to that
spelling for over a year before I finally eased up a bit and
discovered evidence that there was a 't' missing from the
spelling uncle gave.


Of course, he might have spelled it correctly and a copy editor
screwed it up; that happens frequently.

Often as not, my last name is often mispelled in official records
due to transpcription errors.

--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/

"Don't blame Americans. We voted for Gore."

Allen

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Legg inn av Allen » 7. februar 2008 kl. 19.03

Christopher Jahn wrote:
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4olr75-8ks.ln1@remote.clifto.com:

Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:
My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to
be home at the time, gave the information to the funeral home
for Dad's obituary. Imagine my chagrin as a dabbler in
genealogy, that he did not include my father's mother and
father in the obit....
My uncle handled the details for my father, and as well as he
seemed to know the family history, he apparently misspelled
his own mother's maiden name. I stubbornly clung to that
spelling for over a year before I finally eased up a bit and
discovered evidence that there was a 't' missing from the
spelling uncle gave.


Of course, he might have spelled it correctly and a copy editor
screwed it up; that happens frequently.

Often as not, my last name is often mispelled in official records
due to transpcription errors.

Information for obituaries is usually furnished in a time of great

stress and sorrow. When it became obvious that my wonderful mother-in-
law had only a few days to live, I quietly prepared an obituary for her,
including all the usual information you would expect to find in one
except for the date of death and memorial service, including the
newspapers that it should be sent to, and I also checked all the data
for accuracy. When she died, I took it to the funeral home when we went
to the funeral home to make arrangements for her burial and memorial
service. (In the US, obituaries are usually sent to the papers by the
funeral home.) I handed copies to my wife and brother-in-law for their
approval, and they were very grateful that they didn't have to come up
with all that information on the spur of the moment. I would suggest
that others do this also, when death is expected and imminent.

Incidentally, my files are full of obituaries in which female relatives
are identified as Mrs. John Smith, Mrs. Bill Brown, Mrs. Franklin
Johnson and so forth; sometimes that also served as the only
identification of the dead person. Very frustrating, and in my opinion
just one more example of how women were belittled in earlier times. All
the women in my family were worthy of being recognized as themselves,
but too few gained that respect.

Allen

clifto

Re: obit info left out

Legg inn av clifto » 7. februar 2008 kl. 19.23

Christopher Jahn wrote:
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:
My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to
be home at the time, gave the information to the funeral home
for Dad's obituary. Imagine my chagrin as a dabbler in
genealogy, that he did not include my father's mother and
father in the obit....

My uncle handled the details for my father, and as well as he
seemed to know the family history, he apparently misspelled
his own mother's maiden name. I stubbornly clung to that
spelling for over a year before I finally eased up a bit and
discovered evidence that there was a 't' missing from the
spelling uncle gave.


Of course, he might have spelled it correctly and a copy editor
screwed it up; that happens frequently.

You're kind. No, I was sitting with him when he wrote the copy.

Often as not, my last name is often mispelled in official records
due to transpcription errors.

I can guess why. :)

--
God help us all,
The next President of the United States will be a liberal Democrat.

Henry Brownlee

Re: obit info left out

Legg inn av Henry Brownlee » 7. februar 2008 kl. 20.50

"Allen" <allen@nothere.net> wrote in message
news:47ab4808$0$8676$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
| Christopher Jahn wrote:
| > clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in
| > news:4olr75-8ks.ln1@remote.clifto.com:
| Incidentally, my files are full of obituaries in which female relatives
| are identified as Mrs. John Smith, Mrs. Bill Brown, Mrs. Franklin
| Johnson and so forth; sometimes that also served as the only
| identification of the dead person. Very frustrating, and in my opinion
| just one more example of how women were belittled in earlier times. All
| the women in my family were worthy of being recognized as themselves,
| but too few gained that respect.
|
| Allen

Allen,

One of my greatest peeves about this area of the country (South Louisiana)!
The ladies are even known as "Mrs. Jack" BABIN, or "Mrs. Ursin" MATHERNE
during their lifetimes. Even the graves identified them this way. Lately,
however, things they are a-changin', and they are being given their due
respect. But, as you say, some parents/grandparents are still identified in
the obits as "Mr. & Mrs. So-And-So."

Henry Brownlee
Houma, Louisiana

Huntersglenn

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Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 7. februar 2008 kl. 21.15

Allen wrote:
Information for obituaries is usually furnished in a time of great
stress and sorrow. When it became obvious that my wonderful mother-in-
law had only a few days to live, I quietly prepared an obituary for her,
including all the usual information you would expect to find in one
except for the date of death and memorial service, including the
newspapers that it should be sent to, and I also checked all the data
for accuracy. When she died, I took it to the funeral home when we went
to the funeral home to make arrangements for her burial and memorial
service. (In the US, obituaries are usually sent to the papers by the
funeral home.) I handed copies to my wife and brother-in-law for their
approval, and they were very grateful that they didn't have to come up
with all that information on the spur of the moment. I would suggest
that others do this also, when death is expected and imminent.

Incidentally, my files are full of obituaries in which female relatives
are identified as Mrs. John Smith, Mrs. Bill Brown, Mrs. Franklin
Johnson and so forth; sometimes that also served as the only
identification of the dead person. Very frustrating, and in my opinion
just one more example of how women were belittled in earlier times. All
the women in my family were worthy of being recognized as themselves,
but too few gained that respect.

Allen
I also prepared an obituary for my mother shortly before she died, and

gave it to the funeral home - and still managed to misspell the nickname
(and name that most of her friends know her by) of one of my aunts <grin>.

But, the funeral home didn't use my copy - they copied it onto a form
that was then sent to the newspaper - and it's the newspaper's policy to
charge for everything longer than a brief death announcement. As an
amateur genealogist, there was no way that I was going to settle for
something so simple and sparse, especially since my mother had 8 living
siblings at the time of her death. But whenever you see an obit that's
lacking family information, it could be because of cost considerations,
and not because the rest of the family didn't know the names of relatives.

On a similar note, the information for the death certificate is usually
taken at this time, too, and it's not uncommon for the grieving family
to get names wrong, or be unable to remember grandma's maiden name
(provided they ever knew it).

Cathy

Gjest

Re: obit info left out

Legg inn av Gjest » 7. februar 2008 kl. 22.54

Bonnie, I've seen lots of obituary errors. Its amazing how many people
don't know their parent's correct details. I've also seen more than a
few deliberate "fudges" in obits, designed to hide the truth (or at
least continue with the public fiction created to hide a skeleton).

For example, a great aunt of mine died last year. One of her sisters
had a baby out of marriage in 1932. This "child" is now 75 years old,
and the obit of my 90-something aunt, listed him as her brother
instead of her nephew. Its mind boggling.

M

singhals

Re: obit info left out

Legg inn av singhals » 8. februar 2008 kl. 0.14

Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:

My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to be home at the
time, gave the information to the funeral home for Dad's obituary. Imagine
my chagrin as a dabbler in genealogy, that he did not include my father's
mother and father in the obit....
Just goes to show how this kind of stuff happens.
Bonnie




(G) My GM did a sort of pre-registration at the funeral
home of her choice. Fortunately, it was a small town, and
when the time came, my mother referred the funeral director
to me to verify what GM had said. GM had given them her
late husband's birthdate, not her own.

Stuff happens.

Cheryl

Michael Kenefick

Re: obit info left out

Legg inn av Michael Kenefick » 8. februar 2008 kl. 6.11

My Uncle died Tuesday night. In his obituary today, February 7, 2008, in the
Steubenville Herald Star it lists a sister as alive who passed away about two
years ago. My GM had Annbeell as her name. I have seen it as Anna Bell,
Annabell, Anabel, but not with two 'e's. And the editor(?) missed Mount (MT) as
MR. So now my Uncle John "Jack" Kenefick needs to be buried in Mister Calvary
Cemetery instead of Mount Calvary Cemetery 8>) I expect these were oversights
on the person who helped prepare the information.

I posted a copy on rootsweb message boards under Kenefick with the corrections.
But I was unable to make a reader aware of my edits. No Italics or color
changes are allowed, that I can see?

Michael Kenefick in Ohio

Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:
My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to be home at the
time, gave the information to the funeral home for Dad's obituary. Imagine
my chagrin as a dabbler in genealogy, that he did not include my father's
mother and father in the obit....
Just goes to show how this kind of stuff happens.
Bonnie

HC

Re: obit info left out

Legg inn av HC » 8. februar 2008 kl. 8.18

Bonnie when my husband died, his mother put a notice in the local
newspaper where she lives (and where we used to live) and didn't mention
me!! Our two children, his deceased brother and two living sisters all
rated a mention. Of course, many people whom we hadn't seen or heard of
for many years since moving from that area, just assumed we had separated.

Always knew she didn't like me!! LOL
Bronwyn ;-)



Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:
My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to be home at the
time, gave the information to the funeral home for Dad's obituary. Imagine
my chagrin as a dabbler in genealogy, that he did not include my father's
mother and father in the obit....
Just goes to show how this kind of stuff happens.
Bonnie


singhals

Re: obit info left out

Legg inn av singhals » 8. februar 2008 kl. 16.10

The old pre-WIN workarounds -- _ on either side of a word
indicated underlining, a * on either side will make it
*bold* and / on either side is Italics.

Cheryl


Michael Kenefick wrote:

My Uncle died Tuesday night. In his obituary today, February 7, 2008,
in the Steubenville Herald Star it lists a sister as alive who passed
away about two years ago. My GM had Annbeell as her name. I have seen
it as Anna Bell, Annabell, Anabel, but not with two 'e's. And the
editor(?) missed Mount (MT) as MR. So now my Uncle John "Jack" Kenefick
needs to be buried in Mister Calvary Cemetery instead of Mount Calvary
Cemetery 8>) I expect these were oversights on the person who helped
prepare the information.

I posted a copy on rootsweb message boards under Kenefick with the
corrections. But I was unable to make a reader aware of my edits. No
Italics or color changes are allowed, that I can see?

Michael Kenefick in Ohio

Dennis & Bonnie French wrote:

My Dad passed away recently, and my brother who happened to be home at
the time, gave the information to the funeral home for Dad's obituary.
Imagine my chagrin as a dabbler in genealogy, that he did not include
my father's mother and father in the obit....
Just goes to show how this kind of stuff happens.
Bonnie


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