Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
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Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
I'm confused.
Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my
grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter,
Grace, .
Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister
She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so,
how? If not, what is he and how?
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just
make up some names.
Thanks muchly
Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my
grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter,
Grace, .
Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister
She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so,
how? If not, what is he and how?
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just
make up some names.
Thanks muchly
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
Me wrote:
Yes, James and you are first cousins, once removed (he and your father
share a grandfather).
If James had a child, named, say 'Junior', you and James would be second
cousins (you would share a common great-grandfather). Yours and James'
children would be third cousins (sharing a common great-great-grandfather.
Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin ) gives various
definitions, some people find the math formula clearest/easiest to remember.
I'm confused.
Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my
grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter,
Grace, .
Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister
She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? ...
Yes, James and you are first cousins, once removed (he and your father
share a grandfather).
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just
make up some names.
...
If James had a child, named, say 'Junior', you and James would be second
cousins (you would share a common great-grandfather). Yours and James'
children would be third cousins (sharing a common great-great-grandfather.
Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin ) gives various
definitions, some people find the math formula clearest/easiest to remember.
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
paul c wrote:
....
Oops, should have said "you and 'James Junior'" would be second cousins ...
....
If James had a child, named, say 'Junior', you and James ...
Oops, should have said "you and 'James Junior'" would be second cousins ...
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
Me wrote:
Yes you have it correct, an easy way to tell is by using a drop down
chart that keeps each level equal in this case if any one leg of the
drop down chart is unequal the for each level it is unequal it is x
times removed x being the number of levels that the leg is unequal;
In this case;
Progenitor = Emanual Sylvester
Brothers and sisters = Grace, Robert and George
1st Cousins ( Uncles and Aunties)(James(son of Grace)) and (William son
of Robert)(your father))
2nd Cousins (Robert William(You, son of William))
3rd Cousins
As you can see in this case you are one level down form James and thus
you are 1 times removed making James your 1st cousin 1 times removed.
Now if you had children then they would be first cousins twice removed
from James.
I think I have this correct if not some one is bound to put us right on
this.
David
I'm confused.
Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my
grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter,
Grace, .
Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister
She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so,
how? If not, what is he and how?
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just
make up some names.
Thanks muchly
Hi,
Yes you have it correct, an easy way to tell is by using a drop down
chart that keeps each level equal in this case if any one leg of the
drop down chart is unequal the for each level it is unequal it is x
times removed x being the number of levels that the leg is unequal;
In this case;
Progenitor = Emanual Sylvester
Brothers and sisters = Grace, Robert and George
1st Cousins ( Uncles and Aunties)(James(son of Grace)) and (William son
of Robert)(your father))
2nd Cousins (Robert William(You, son of William))
3rd Cousins
As you can see in this case you are one level down form James and thus
you are 1 times removed making James your 1st cousin 1 times removed.
Now if you had children then they would be first cousins twice removed
from James.
I think I have this correct if not some one is bound to put us right on
this.
David
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
"paul c" <toledobythesea@oohay.ac> wrote in message
news:oC4oj.25856$4w.1804@pd7urf2no...
Here's how to determine relationships:
Given relatives A and B, and a common ancestor C:
1. Count generations between A and C, and then B and C. Only count the
generations between.
2. The smaller of the two is the "cousin" count. (i.e. 3rd cousin). The
shortest line is always the "cousin" part.
3. The difference between the two generation counts in (1) is the "removed"
part. (i.e., twice removed)
A count less than 1 in (1) would be an (n)th aunt or uncle.
Bob F.
news:oC4oj.25856$4w.1804@pd7urf2no...
paul c wrote:
...
If James had a child, named, say 'Junior', you and James ...
Oops, should have said "you and 'James Junior'" would be second cousins
...
Here's how to determine relationships:
Given relatives A and B, and a common ancestor C:
1. Count generations between A and C, and then B and C. Only count the
generations between.
2. The smaller of the two is the "cousin" count. (i.e. 3rd cousin). The
shortest line is always the "cousin" part.
3. The difference between the two generation counts in (1) is the "removed"
part. (i.e., twice removed)
A count less than 1 in (1) would be an (n)th aunt or uncle.
Bob F.
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
Hi Me...
I too get confused and usually rely on my wife to straighten it out.
However,
I've discovered another way. I create the entries in Family Tree Maker and
generate a kinship report. It tells me who is 1st, 2nd, Once removed, twice
removed cousins, etc. What's really neat is when one of your direct
ancestors is also
a cousin.
Good Luck
--
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lvMMMCCIX
"Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message
news:13q1k1vklseht87@corp.supernews.com...
I too get confused and usually rely on my wife to straighten it out.
However,
I've discovered another way. I create the entries in Family Tree Maker and
generate a kinship report. It tells me who is 1st, 2nd, Once removed, twice
removed cousins, etc. What's really neat is when one of your direct
ancestors is also
a cousin.
Good Luck
--
__________
lvMMMCCIX
"Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message
news:13q1k1vklseht87@corp.supernews.com...
I'm confused.
Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my
grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter,
Grace, .
Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister
She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so,
how? If not, what is he and how?
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just
make up some names.
Thanks muchly
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:30:24 -0800, "Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote:
http://www.obliquity.com/family/misc/cousin.html
I'm confused.
Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my
grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter,
Grace, .
Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister
She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so,
how? If not, what is he and how?
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just
make up some names.
Thanks muchly
Go here:
http://www.obliquity.com/family/misc/cousin.html
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:30:24 -0800, "Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote:
James's children would be your secodn cousins.
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Steve Hayes
E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work)
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/
I'm confused.
Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my
grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter,
Grace, .
Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister
She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so,
how? If not, what is he and how?
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just
make up some names.
James's children would be your secodn cousins.
--
Steve Hayes
E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work)
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:30:24 -0800, Me wrote:
Don't worry, it's our ancestors favourite game )
Try these sites:
http://www.obliquity.com/family/misc/cousin.html
http://www.genealogy.com/16_cousn.html
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http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/
I'm confused.
Don't worry, it's our ancestors favourite game )
[Grace] had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right?
If so, how? If not, what is he and how?
Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin?
Just make up some names.
Try these sites:
http://www.obliquity.com/family/misc/cousin.html
http://www.genealogy.com/16_cousn.html
--
http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/
Re: Cousins? 1st , once-removed, etc
"Photon713" wrote:
I do this with Legacy by pulling up two people in the Generate Relationship
tool. Shows the line list which created the relationship also. Simple to
get a quick answer.
Also in Legacy, I designate a person (usually myself), and then each other
person's relationship to me (if any) shows above his record on the monitor
every time I go to that record for any reason. It also includes "Married to
Great Grand Aunt," etc., which can be very helpful. Very nice.
Donna
I create the entries in Family Tree Maker and
generate a kinship report. It tells me who is 1st, 2nd, Once removed,
twice
removed cousins, etc.
I do this with Legacy by pulling up two people in the Generate Relationship
tool. Shows the line list which created the relationship also. Simple to
get a quick answer.
Also in Legacy, I designate a person (usually myself), and then each other
person's relationship to me (if any) shows above his record on the monitor
every time I go to that record for any reason. It also includes "Married to
Great Grand Aunt," etc., which can be very helpful. Very nice.
Donna