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1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av singhals » 12 jan 2008 17:18:46

I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's
HARVEY, handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY)
in 1862 in Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is
given, not his mother, and for her parents it says Unknown.

In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married
name, giving her father as William HANBY, and her mother as
M.; informant is her brother William. It says she was 45 and
born in VA.

Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't
find a William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death
certificate. I've looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY,
HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY. I've looked at all the William
and Wm entries ...

Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you
can spot them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or
Loudoun counties VA or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson
counties WV. They COULD be anywhere in the US.

Citation only, no need to send the image.

Many many thanks!

Cheryl

clifto

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av clifto » 12 jan 2008 17:52:43

singhals wrote:
I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's
HARVEY, handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY)
in 1862 in Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is
given, not his mother, and for her parents it says Unknown.

Any chance you could scan it and put it up on the web?

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

Bruce Remick

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 12 jan 2008 18:52:32

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY, handwriting
is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in Frederick co. Virginia.
The groom's father is given, not his mother, and for her parents it says
Unknown.

In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving her
father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her brother
William. It says she was 45 and born in VA.

Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a William
Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate. I've looked at
HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY. I've looked at all
the William and Wm entries ...

Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot
them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties VA or
in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD be anywhere
in the US.

Citation only, no need to send the image.


If you haven't found this already searching the US Census, the only Mary
Han* born abt 1840 in VA and living there with a father named William
appears to be [1850 VA Monongalia Co] Mary J. Haney, 10, b. VA, with father
William Haney, 37(?), b. VA and mother Mary, 46, b. PA, and a sister
Elizabeth Ann, 11. The family also appears there in the 1860 census
(Morgantown PO) with an additional Andrew Madera, 10, in the household. No
brother William, though.

In 1870, Monongalia Co was part of WV and I don't see any of the family
remaining in the county.

Bruce

singhals

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av singhals » 12 jan 2008 20:11:00

Bruce Remick wrote:

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
news:iL2dnShmFJ77dRXanZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@rcn.net...

I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY, handwriting
is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in Frederick co. Virginia.
The groom's father is given, not his mother, and for her parents it says
Unknown.

In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving her
father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her brother
William. It says she was 45 and born in VA.

Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a William
Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate. I've looked at
HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY. I've looked at all
the William and Wm entries ...

Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot
them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties VA or
in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD be anywhere
in the US.

Citation only, no need to send the image.



If you haven't found this already searching the US Census, the only Mary
Han* born abt 1840 in VA and living there with a father named William
appears to be [1850 VA Monongalia Co] Mary J. Haney, 10, b. VA, with father
William Haney, 37(?), b. VA and mother Mary, 46, b. PA, and a sister
Elizabeth Ann, 11. The family also appears there in the 1860 census
(Morgantown PO) with an additional Andrew Madera, 10, in the household. No
brother William, though.

In 1870, Monongalia Co was part of WV and I don't see any of the family
remaining in the county.


Thanks, Bruce. No, I hadn't found that one! As I've
witched before every time I think I have a clue on this, I
end up with more discrepancies instead!

Thanks!

Cheryl

singhals

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av singhals » 12 jan 2008 20:12:12

clifto wrote:

singhals wrote:

I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's
HARVEY, handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY)
in 1862 in Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is
given, not his mother, and for her parents it says Unknown.


Any chance you could scan it and put it up on the web?


Probably not any time soon. :(

Cheryl

Huntersglenn

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 12 jan 2008 20:33:03

I can only find the family that Bruce found - they aren't in the 1870
that I can find, but the older William Haney and his wife are in
Monongalia County, WV in the 1880 Federal Census. No children living
with them, though.

My husband has some Haneys in his line, and one thing we've found over
the years is that enumerators could be most creative when spelling the
name and indexers even more creative in spelling it when the enumerator
had bad or fancy handwriting. We've seen it as Haney, Hainey, Hainy,
Hanie, and Hany to name the most common.

Is there a middle initial given for Mary? Where did she die? Does the
death record show where she's buried? What was her husband's name?

Thanks,
Cathy

singhals wrote:

I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY,
handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in Frederick
co. Virginia. The groom's father is given, not his mother, and for her
parents it says Unknown.

In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving her
father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her brother
William. It says she was 45 and born in VA.

Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a
William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate. I've
looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY. I've
looked at all the William and Wm entries ...

Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot
them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties VA
or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD be
anywhere in the US.

Citation only, no need to send the image.

Many many thanks!

Cheryl

clifto

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av clifto » 12 jan 2008 23:04:52

singhals wrote:
clifto wrote:
singhals wrote:
I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's
HARVEY, handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY)
in 1862 in Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is
given, not his mother, and for her parents it says Unknown.


Any chance you could scan it and put it up on the web?


Probably not any time soon. :(

Is the hard part scanning, or putting? If faxing it to me and having me
scan it and put it up would help you, e-mail me.

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

singhals

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av singhals » 13 jan 2008 18:48:10

The record, taken from the WV Vitals site's scan of the
original document. Original was one of the county record
books where the entry spans both the left & right pages.
Most of the questions you've raised had no column in which
to record the info.

Name: Mary E./Sirbaugh
Sex: Female
Death Date: 31 Jan 1885
Death Place: Shepherdstown, Jefferson Co., West Virginia
Age at Death: 43y
CAUSE : heart disease
Burial Place: not asked
Burial Date: "
Cemetery: "
Funeral Home: "
Birth Date: "
Birth Place: Maryland
Marital Status: not asked
Spouse: Geo. W./Sirbaugh
Occupation: not asked
Address: "
Residence: "
Mother: M./Hanby
Mother's Birth Place: " Father: Wm./Hanby
Father's Birth Place: "
Informant: brother: Wm Hanby

Huntersglenn wrote:

I can only find the family that Bruce found - they aren't in the 1870
that I can find, but the older William Haney and his wife are in
Monongalia County, WV in the 1880 Federal Census. No children living
with them, though.

My husband has some Haneys in his line, and one thing we've found over
the years is that enumerators could be most creative when spelling the
name and indexers even more creative in spelling it when the enumerator
had bad or fancy handwriting. We've seen it as Haney, Hainey, Hainy,
Hanie, and Hany to name the most common.

Is there a middle initial given for Mary? Where did she die? Does the
death record show where she's buried? What was her husband's name?

Thanks,
Cathy

singhals wrote:

I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY,
handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in
Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is given, not his mother,
and for her parents it says Unknown.

In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving
her father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her
brother William. It says she was 45 and born in VA.

Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a
William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate.
I've looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY.
I've looked at all the William and Wm entries ...

Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot
them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties
VA or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD be
anywhere in the US.

Citation only, no need to send the image.

Many many thanks!

Cheryl

Huntersglenn

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 14 jan 2008 00:24:58

Yeah, I love and hate that site. Love it because my husband has West
Virginia roots. Hate it because all too often the important fields are
blank <grin>.

Back to ancestry to see if we can scare up someone for you to check out
<vbg>!
Thanks,
Cathy

singhals wrote:
The record, taken from the WV Vitals site's scan of the original
document. Original was one of the county record books where the entry
spans both the left & right pages. Most of the questions you've raised
had no column in which to record the info.

Name: Mary E./Sirbaugh
Sex: Female
Death Date: 31 Jan 1885
Death Place: Shepherdstown, Jefferson Co., West Virginia
Age at Death: 43y
CAUSE : heart disease
Burial Place: not asked
Burial Date: "
Cemetery: "
Funeral Home: "
Birth Date: "
Birth Place: Maryland
Marital Status: not asked
Spouse: Geo. W./Sirbaugh
Occupation: not asked
Address: "
Residence: "
Mother: M./Hanby
Mother's Birth Place: " Father: Wm./Hanby
Father's Birth Place: "
Informant: brother: Wm Hanby

Huntersglenn wrote:

I can only find the family that Bruce found - they aren't in the 1870
that I can find, but the older William Haney and his wife are in
Monongalia County, WV in the 1880 Federal Census. No children living
with them, though.

My husband has some Haneys in his line, and one thing we've found over
the years is that enumerators could be most creative when spelling the
name and indexers even more creative in spelling it when the
enumerator had bad or fancy handwriting. We've seen it as Haney,
Hainey, Hainy, Hanie, and Hany to name the most common.

Is there a middle initial given for Mary? Where did she die? Does
the death record show where she's buried? What was her husband's name?

Thanks,
Cathy

singhals wrote:

I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY,
handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in
Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is given, not his mother,
and for her parents it says Unknown.

In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving
her father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her
brother William. It says she was 45 and born in VA.

Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a
William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate.
I've looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY.
I've looked at all the William and Wm entries ...

Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot
them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties
VA or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD
be anywhere in the US.

Citation only, no need to send the image.

Many many thanks!

Cheryl

singhals

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av singhals » 14 jan 2008 03:11:28

Be nice if the INFORMANT field asked "what makes you an
authority?" (g) Sometimes I can't figure out who the heck
the informant is, sometimes it turns out to be the doctor
and sometimes the undertaker. But, without that site, I'd
never have found this record ... now, whether finding it's a
GOOD thing is up for discussion ...

And the version of those record books where it asks for the
NATIONALITY of the deceased annoys me endlessly. Only one
entry in the book I know best says anything but "American".

Sigh. Oh well, I've only been working on Mary E for 37
years now ...

Cheryl

Huntersglenn wrote:

Yeah, I love and hate that site. Love it because my husband has West
Virginia roots. Hate it because all too often the important fields are
blank <grin>.

Back to ancestry to see if we can scare up someone for you to check out
vbg>!
Thanks,
Cathy

singhals wrote:

The record, taken from the WV Vitals site's scan of the original
document. Original was one of the county record books where the entry
spans both the left & right pages. Most of the questions you've raised
had no column in which to record the info.

Name: Mary E./Sirbaugh
Sex: Female
Death Date: 31 Jan 1885
Death Place: Shepherdstown, Jefferson Co., West Virginia
Age at Death: 43y
CAUSE : heart disease
Burial Place: not asked
Burial Date: "
Cemetery: "
Funeral Home: "
Birth Date: "
Birth Place: Maryland
Marital Status: not asked
Spouse: Geo. W./Sirbaugh
Occupation: not asked
Address: "
Residence: "
Mother: M./Hanby
Mother's Birth Place: " Father: Wm./Hanby
Father's Birth Place: "
Informant: brother: Wm Hanby

Huntersglenn wrote:

I can only find the family that Bruce found - they aren't in the 1870
that I can find, but the older William Haney and his wife are in
Monongalia County, WV in the 1880 Federal Census. No children living
with them, though.

My husband has some Haneys in his line, and one thing we've found
over the years is that enumerators could be most creative when
spelling the name and indexers even more creative in spelling it when
the enumerator had bad or fancy handwriting. We've seen it as Haney,
Hainey, Hainy, Hanie, and Hany to name the most common.

Is there a middle initial given for Mary? Where did she die? Does
the death record show where she's buried? What was her husband's name?

Thanks,
Cathy

singhals wrote:

I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY,
handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in
Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is given, not his mother,
and for her parents it says Unknown.

In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving
her father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her
brother William. It says she was 45 and born in VA.

Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a
William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate.
I've looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and
HANLEY. I've looked at all the William and Wm entries ...

Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can
spot them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun
counties VA or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV.
They COULD be anywhere in the US.

Citation only, no need to send the image.

Many many thanks!

Cheryl

Henry Brownlee

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av Henry Brownlee » 14 jan 2008 20:27:02

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
news:XMOdnQoy2PZSWRfanZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@rcn.net...

| Sigh. Oh well, I've only been working on Mary E for 37
| years now ...
|
| Cheryl

Cher,

Only 37 years?! Well, all things cometh to him that waiteth - as long as he
that waiteth worketh like hell while he waiteth.
(Charlie the barber)

Henri

singhals

Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?

Legg inn av singhals » 15 jan 2008 17:35:38

Henry Brownlee wrote:

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
news:XMOdnQoy2PZSWRfanZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@rcn.net...

| Sigh. Oh well, I've only been working on Mary E for 37
| years now ...
|
| Cheryl

Cher,

Only 37 years?! Well, all things cometh to him that waiteth - as long as he
that waiteth worketh like hell while he waiteth.
(Charlie the barber)

Henri


Job's comforter, you are, mon vieux. Mille remercies.

Cheryl

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