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Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 21 des 2007 00:35:06

Looking for information on my maternal grandfather. I don't know his
first name. From what I understand, he had 2 daughters. He may have
had more children. The daughters names were Marion Casey and Vienna. I
believe he...they, I don't know his wife's name, lived in the Sutton,
Ontario, Canada area.

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 des 2007 02:15:12

Give us a timeline - when did he live, approximately.

Just to give you an example of WHY that matters, my husband is 52
years old, and one of his GRANDPARENTS was born in 1866. So, give us a
clue of the years you are interested in.

Mary G.

Dee

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 21 des 2007 02:16:07

On Dec 20, 7:09 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
Give us a timeline - when did he live, approximately.

Just to give you an example of WHY that matters, my husband is 52
years old, and one of his GRANDPARENTS was born in 1866. So, give us a
clue of the years you are interested in.

Mary G.

I think he died sometime in the 1930-40's

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 des 2007 05:11:25

On Dec 20, 8:13 pm, Dee <thebushmansw...@cpws.net> wrote:
On Dec 20, 7:09 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:

Give us a timeline - when did he live, approximately.

Just to give you an example of WHY that matters, my husband is 52
years old, and one of his GRANDPARENTS was born in 1866. So, give us a
clue of the years you are interested in.

Mary G.

I think he died sometime in the 1930-40's

And when was he born, approximately? Any idea when he would have
married...young, old??

Dee

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 21 des 2007 05:50:08

On Dec 20, 9:11 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:13 pm, Dee <thebushmansw...@cpws.net> wrote:

On Dec 20, 7:09 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:

Give us a timeline - when did he live, approximately.

Just to give you an example of WHY that matters, my husband is 52
years old, and one of his GRANDPARENTS was born in 1866. So, give us a
clue of the years you are interested in.

Mary G.

I think he died sometime in the 1930-40's

And when was he born, approximately? Any idea when he would have
married...young, old??

He may have been born about 1860-1870. He married my grandmother when
he was about 50 or 60. and she was 20 or 30 years his junior. My
information is very sketchy.

Larry Van Wormer

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Larry Van Wormer » 21 des 2007 19:02:19

Dee wrote:
Looking for information on my maternal grandfather. I don't know his
first name. From what I understand, he had 2 daughters. He may have
had more children. The daughters names were Marion Casey and Vienna. I
believe he...they, I don't know his wife's name, lived in the Sutton,
Ontario, Canada area.

I had a look in the Ontario birth records on Ancestry, but didn't turn
up any really likely hits. When were the daughters born, please, and are
you really sure of their names... Vienna looked like a surefire locator,
but not so. There are a few plausible Marions, but no Caseys I could fine.

Larry Van Wormer

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 des 2007 20:30:06

Also, give us an approximate date for the births of the daughters -
even within a decade.

Like Larry, I went looking for Viennas and although it is a very rare
first name, I couldn't see anything that looked plausible. If you have
your parent's actual marriage registration, you can get the full names
of both sets of their parents.

Mary

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 des 2007 20:40:05

Also Dee, give us your grandmother's name if you can, even a first
name.

Mary G.

Tara

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Tara » 21 des 2007 23:17:10

"Dee" <thebushmanswife@cpws.net> wrote in message
news:07aa8204-6b28-4986-a502-416b6b026f46@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Looking for information on my maternal grandfather. I don't know his
first name. From what I understand, he had 2 daughters. He may have
had more children. The daughters names were Marion Casey and Vienna. I
believe he...they, I don't know his wife's name, lived in the Sutton,
Ontario, Canada area.

I agree that Vienna Cameron is too unique, and since I'm only finding one
and she's right near Sutton (if I'm reading these locations right), I'm
gonna assume it's her. At least assume enough to send you what I've found
and see if you can make the connection.

The info is spotty, but between some scattered vitals and census info, it
seems there is a Vienna Cameron, born Dec. 22, 1890, with a sister Gertrude
May and a brother John Angus (I'm not finding any Marion Casey). Their
parents are Robena Vienna Brown and John Cameron. They seem to be living
with John's brother, Kenneth, in 1911. John and Kenneth's parents seem to be
John and Jane Cameron, here in 1881:

Household:
Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation
Religion
John CAMERON M Male Scottish 50 Scotland Farm Labourer Church
of Scotland
Jane CAMERON M Female Scottish 45 Ontario Church of Scotland
Maggie CAMERON Female Scottish 24 Ontario Church of
Scotland
John CAMERON Male 23 Ontario Clerk Church of Scotland
Kenneth CAMERON Male Scottish 20 Ontario Law Student Church
of Scotland
Donald CAMERON Male Scottish 18 Ontario Clerk Church of
Scotland
Flora CAMERON Female Scottish 15 Ontario Church of Scotland
Jane CAMERON Female Scottish 13 Ontario Church of Scotland
Edith CAMERON Female Scottish 10 Ontario Church of Scotland
Harry CAMERON Male Scottish 6 Ontario Church of Scotland
Allan CAMERON Male Scottish 4 Ontario Church of Scotland
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Census Place Thorah, Ontario North, Ontario
Family History Library Film 1375881
NA Film Number C-13245
District 133
Sub-district F
Division 2
Page Number 11
Household Number 57

Like I said, spotty, and I may be making the connections wrong, but I'll
send you what I've found and maybe you can find enough additional info to
prove the relationships.

--
Tara Larkin
Remove NO SPAM to reply by email.

Dee

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 22 des 2007 17:55:06

On Dec 21, 4:17 pm, "Tara" <NOtnlarkinS...@iparagon.net> wrote:
"Dee" <thebushmansw...@cpws.net> wrote in message

news:07aa8204-6b28-4986-a502-416b6b026f46@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

Looking for information on my maternal grandfather. I don't know his
first name. From what I understand, he had 2 daughters. He may have
had more children. The daughters names were Marion Casey and Vienna. I
believe he...they, I don't know his wife's name, lived in the Sutton,
Ontario, Canada area.

I agree that Vienna Cameron is too unique, and since I'm only finding one
and she's right near Sutton (if I'm reading these locations right), I'm
gonna assume it's her. At least assume enough to send you what I've found
and see if you can make the connection.

The info is spotty, but between some scattered vitals and census info, it
seems there is a Vienna Cameron, born Dec. 22, 1890, with a sister Gertrude
May and a brother John Angus (I'm not finding any Marion Casey). Their
parents are Robena Vienna Brown and John Cameron. They seem to be living
with John's brother, Kenneth, in 1911. John and Kenneth's parents seem to be
John and Jane Cameron, here in 1881:

Household:
 Name  Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation
Religion
 John CAMERON   M   Male   Scottish   50   Scotland   Farm Labourer   Church
of Scotland
 Jane CAMERON   M   Female   Scottish   45   Ontario      Church of Scotland
 Maggie CAMERON      Female   Scottish   24   Ontario      Church of
Scotland
 John CAMERON      Male      23   Ontario   Clerk   Church of Scotland
 Kenneth CAMERON      Male   Scottish   20   Ontario   Law Student   Church
of Scotland
 Donald CAMERON      Male   Scottish   18   Ontario   Clerk   Church of
Scotland
 Flora CAMERON      Female   Scottish   15   Ontario      Church of Scotland
 Jane CAMERON      Female   Scottish   13   Ontario      Church of Scotland
 Edith CAMERON      Female   Scottish   10   Ontario      Church of Scotland
 Harry CAMERON      Male   Scottish   6   Ontario      Church of Scotland
 Allan CAMERON      Male   Scottish   4   Ontario      Church of Scotland
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Source Information:
  Census Place Thorah, Ontario North, Ontario
  Family History Library Film   1375881
  NA Film Number   C-13245
  District   133
  Sub-district   F
  Division   2
  Page Number   11
  Household Number   57

Like I said, spotty, and I may be making the connections wrong, but I'll
send you what I've found and maybe you can find enough additional info to
prove the relationships.

--
Tara Larkin
Remove NO SPAM to reply by email.

Thank you Tara.

Dee

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 22 des 2007 17:56:03

On Dec 21, 1:28 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
Also, give us an approximate date for the births of the daughters -
even within a decade.

Like Larry, I went looking for Viennas and although it is a very rare
first name, I couldn't see anything that looked plausible. If you have
your parent's actual marriage registration, you can get the full names
of both sets of their parents.

Mary

Thank you all for your help. My mother was 10 years older than Vienna.
All I have is a picture and my mother is about 16 and the sister is 6.
Maby my mother was not this man's natural child? Vienna died when she
was 24?? I don't know the cause. She left 3 small children who had
various disabilities. That's about all I have except 2 pictures; the
one mentioned and another of Vienna and her 3 children. I don't know
what her married name would have been. I don't know my maturnal
grandmother's name or Mr. Cameron's first name. My mother did carry
his last name but she may not have been his child..I don't know. I am
all there's left. and my daughters who are searching family as well.
Thank you. Dee

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 22 des 2007 23:26:09

Dates....years, we need the timeline. When was your mother born?

Mary G.

Dee

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 23 des 2007 07:05:05

On Dec 22, 4:05 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
Dates....years, we need the timeline.  When was your mother born?

Mary G.

I think she's dead now...she'd be 81

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 23 des 2007 19:20:12

So, your mother was born in 1926, which means sister Vienna was born
around 1936 or so, and died about 1960, which means BOTH were born too
late for Ontario internet access records - at this point, your best
bet is to get a copy of your mother's marriage or birth registrations
(for which you have to pay for from the provincial government) and
that will provide you with the names of both her parents.

For next time,the timeline is crucial - when you ask questions give
all the details you know. Myself and other responders were looking for
information for you and supplied what we could find that turned out to
be totally off base (such as info from 1901 or 1911 census data)
because we did not know the timelines involved. The Vienna from the
earlier census may be an ancestor but she certainly isn't your
mother's younger sister.

M

Dee

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 24 des 2007 03:10:06

On Dec 23, 12:14 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
So, your mother was born in 1926, which means sister Vienna was born
around 1936 or so, and died about 1960, which means BOTH were born too
late for Ontario internet access records - at this point, your best
bet is to get a copy of your mother's marriage or birth registrations
(for which you have to pay for from the provincial government) and
that will provide you with the names of both her parents.

For next time,the timeline is crucial - when you ask questions give
all the details you know. Myself and other responders were looking for
information for you and supplied what we could find that turned out to
be totally off base (such as info from 1901 or 1911 census data)
because we did not know the timelines involved. The Vienna from the
earlier census may be an ancestor but she certainly isn't  your
mother's younger sister.

M

Any and all particles of information are most welcome, thank you for
your help.Now I believe with such an unusual name as Vienna, these
must be ancesters.

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 24 des 2007 19:50:05

Found a death listing for a Vienna Cameron who lived in North
Gwillimbury, which is right near Sutton, she died May 2 1912
at age 69, no indication where born, she lived at Lot 11 Con 8,
marital status has a dash where a status should be, mother is listed
as Hannah Bowers, father Adam Brown, death reported by a George
Cameron living in Baldwin, died of heart disease and brochitis. So,
her maiden name was Brown. in the 1911 census she is living with a son
called Bertie.

Found birth listings for some of her children - born to John Cameron
and Vienna Brown, John is a farmer, township of Georgina.

Hannah Louisa Cameron 8 March 1870
Mary Louisa 8 March 1870 (yes, twins - births not registered until
November 1873 and there is a little note that says "negligence on the
part of the parents are the only reason this and the following birth
(Hanna) not being registered before this date"
John Cameron born 7 Nov 1873
Vienna Rebenia Cameron born 7 Nov 1873 (yes, second set of twins). By
the way, this Rabina shows in the 1901 census living with her brother
and her brother's brood - brother is a Kenneth Cameron who is 40 born
13 Nov 1860, so there is another child for the family.
John Angus Cameron born 13 December 1875 (older John probably died
and the name recycled).
Emma Louisa Cameron born 5 Jan 1879

John Angus, going by Angus John married May L. Willoughby (born 1884)
1 Feb 1905
Hannah Louise married a much older man when she was 29 - he was 59.
Stephen Hart, 22 Dec 1909.
Robena married William Ross Sedore 19 Nov 1913
Kenneth was married to Tillia Benneth (age 17) on 22 Oct 1887

One more probable child - appears to be a George Napoleon Cameron from
North Gwillimbury who married a Minnie S. Pollock on 16 September
1908. His age is given as 33. Parents are listed as John Cameron and
Lavinia Brown. I note that there are some very creative misspellings
of Vienna in the registry entries, and I suspect this is not Lavinia
but your Vienna.

M

Gjest

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Gjest » 24 des 2007 23:20:08

Ohhh, Dee, found something very interesting on familysearch.org in an
ancestral file - a woman who is almost certainly your aunt Vienna. Her
parents names are not given but she is listed as having been born
November 18 1934 in Ontario, and she died 29 March 1960 in Stroud
Ontario. She was married to a person whose name is not given because
he is apparently living, but his surname is Dike. His father's name
was Anthony Everett Dike and his mother was Nettie Yake. There are
three children listed, all details supressed because they are living.

M

Dee

Re: Looking for ? Cameron lived Sutton Ontaio Canada

Legg inn av Dee » 03 jan 2008 03:55:04

On Dec 24 2007, 4:15 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
Ohhh,  Dee, found something very interesting on familysearch.org in an
ancestral file - a woman who is almost certainly your auntVienna. Her
parents names are not given but she is listed as having been born
November 18 1934 in Ontario, and she died 29 March 1960 in Stroud
Ontario. She was married to a person whose name is not given because
he is apparently living, but his surname is Dike. His father's name
was Anthony Everett Dike and his mother was Nettie Yake. There are
three children listed, all details supressed because they are living.

M

A huge 'thank you'!!!
Dee

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