Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
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Gjest
Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
Can someone help me find the parents of Michael C. Fox (1802-1882)
married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John
Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson
to Michael Fox. Help!!!
married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John
Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson
to Michael Fox. Help!!!
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singhals
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
chantellerock@yahoo.com wrote:
Was Michael from Ireland too? Or just Cecelia?
Does Michael's death certificate give his parents' names or
a more precise place of birth? On the 1881 Canadian are
they Protestant or Catholic? Did the local newspaper where
they lived when he died run an obituary?
I don't research Canada or Ireland, but I understand
Canadian Archives are excellent. Also try
http://www.worldgenweb.org/ and select Canada.
HTH
Cheryl
Can someone help me find the parents of Michael C. Fox (1802-1882)
married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John
Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson
to Michael Fox. Help!!!
Was Michael from Ireland too? Or just Cecelia?
Does Michael's death certificate give his parents' names or
a more precise place of birth? On the 1881 Canadian are
they Protestant or Catholic? Did the local newspaper where
they lived when he died run an obituary?
I don't research Canada or Ireland, but I understand
Canadian Archives are excellent. Also try
http://www.worldgenweb.org/ and select Canada.
HTH
Cheryl
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Gjest
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
Dee, you may have a challenge with Michael Fox as he was apparently
born in Ireland, and as you may know, there was a catastrophic fire in
1922 that destroyed the Four Courts building in Dublin where many
records were kept. It destroyed most of the the nineteenth century
census returns, Church of Ireland parish records and the collection of
wills. The fire made it a big challenge to trace ancestors who came
from Ireland in the 19th century - particularly protestant
denomination ancestors.
I've got quite a few whose trail deadends at the point they hit Canada
- i.e. can't find their parents names etc., when they were married
etc.
Mary G.
born in Ireland, and as you may know, there was a catastrophic fire in
1922 that destroyed the Four Courts building in Dublin where many
records were kept. It destroyed most of the the nineteenth century
census returns, Church of Ireland parish records and the collection of
wills. The fire made it a big challenge to trace ancestors who came
from Ireland in the 19th century - particularly protestant
denomination ancestors.
I've got quite a few whose trail deadends at the point they hit Canada
- i.e. can't find their parents names etc., when they were married
etc.
Mary G.
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CWatters
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
<chantellerock@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Where did they marry
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Can someone help me find the parents of Michael C. Fox (1802-1882)
married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John
Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson
to Michael Fox. Help!!!
Where did they marry
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Gjest
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
On Dec 20, 10:59 am, "CWatters" <colin.watt...@turnersoak.plus.com>
wrote:
I believe the married in Ireland, I dont know what part of Ireland
they were born in, they were both born there, to my understanding.
wrote:
chanteller...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Can someone help me find the parents of Michael C. Fox (1802-1882)
married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John
Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson
to Michael Fox. Help!!!
Where did they marry
I believe the married in Ireland, I dont know what part of Ireland
they were born in, they were both born there, to my understanding.
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Gjest
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
Looked them up in the 1901 census which says Michael emigrated in 1849
(so, when he was 14 or 15) and wife Cecilia emigrated in 1837 (so, as
a toddler). This means they each came with their parents and married
in Ontario. Both described as Roman Catholics.
Incidentally, in 1901, they were living with a daughter Loretta C.
born 1 Nov 1879 and son Edward M., born 10 November 1881. Michael is a
farmer, Edward is a miller.
In the birth listings, there is also a son Charles James born 14 April
1880.
Found some more of their children in the listings for marriages -
Elizabeth, born about 1858, married a Thomas Cunningham born about
1850, on 10 October 1883 in Cobourg. He is son of Thomas and
Margaret.
Emma Fox, born about 1874, married Miles McCauley born about 1866 from
Lindsay. They married July 21 1896 in Cobourg. He is son of John
McCauley and Margaret Kehoe.
Evaline Fox, born about 1875, married Joseph Grosjean born about 1875
in Hamilton. He is son of John Grosjean and Mary Noland. Evaline
married 13 July 1897 in Cobourg.
Then we have the Margaret born about 1868 who married James Fox son of
Michael Fox and Ellen Roach. They married 19 June 1894 in Cobourg.
There is a son Joseph, born about 1866, married Mary Nolan who was
born about 1870 and was daughter of Hgh Nolan and Hanora Fitzgerald.
Married 21 July 1896 (same day as sister Emma) in Cobourg.
Daughter Loretta married Robert Struthers born about 1878, son of
James Struthers and Jane Webster. Married in Cobourg 5 November 1902.
Son William Fox (born about 1861) married Emilie Holmes, daughter of
William and Mary. Marriage was in Cobourg 5 May 1886.
So....we have at least 10 kids we know of who were children to the
couple.....John, William, Edward, Loretta, Evaline, Margaret, Joseph,
Emma, Elizabeth and Charles.
First born looks like Elizabeth (born 1858), so the couple Michael and
Cecilia were probably married 1857 or so, prior to civil marriage
registrations.
Mary
(so, when he was 14 or 15) and wife Cecilia emigrated in 1837 (so, as
a toddler). This means they each came with their parents and married
in Ontario. Both described as Roman Catholics.
Incidentally, in 1901, they were living with a daughter Loretta C.
born 1 Nov 1879 and son Edward M., born 10 November 1881. Michael is a
farmer, Edward is a miller.
In the birth listings, there is also a son Charles James born 14 April
1880.
Found some more of their children in the listings for marriages -
Elizabeth, born about 1858, married a Thomas Cunningham born about
1850, on 10 October 1883 in Cobourg. He is son of Thomas and
Margaret.
Emma Fox, born about 1874, married Miles McCauley born about 1866 from
Lindsay. They married July 21 1896 in Cobourg. He is son of John
McCauley and Margaret Kehoe.
Evaline Fox, born about 1875, married Joseph Grosjean born about 1875
in Hamilton. He is son of John Grosjean and Mary Noland. Evaline
married 13 July 1897 in Cobourg.
Then we have the Margaret born about 1868 who married James Fox son of
Michael Fox and Ellen Roach. They married 19 June 1894 in Cobourg.
There is a son Joseph, born about 1866, married Mary Nolan who was
born about 1870 and was daughter of Hgh Nolan and Hanora Fitzgerald.
Married 21 July 1896 (same day as sister Emma) in Cobourg.
Daughter Loretta married Robert Struthers born about 1878, son of
James Struthers and Jane Webster. Married in Cobourg 5 November 1902.
Son William Fox (born about 1861) married Emilie Holmes, daughter of
William and Mary. Marriage was in Cobourg 5 May 1886.
So....we have at least 10 kids we know of who were children to the
couple.....John, William, Edward, Loretta, Evaline, Margaret, Joseph,
Emma, Elizabeth and Charles.
First born looks like Elizabeth (born 1858), so the couple Michael and
Cecilia were probably married 1857 or so, prior to civil marriage
registrations.
Mary
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Dee
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
On Dec 20, 2:44 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
Thank you, Mary, very much appreciated!!
Looked them up in the 1901 census which says Michael emigrated in 1849
(so, when he was 14 or 15) and wife Cecilia emigrated in 1837 (so, as
a toddler). This means they each came with their parents and married
in Ontario. Both described as Roman Catholics.
Incidentally, in 1901, they were living with a daughter Loretta C.
born 1 Nov 1879 and son Edward M., born 10 November 1881. Michael is a
farmer, Edward is a miller.
In the birth listings, there is also a son Charles James born 14 April
1880.
Found some more of their children in the listings for marriages -
Elizabeth, born about 1858, married a Thomas Cunningham born about
1850, on 10 October 1883 in Cobourg. He is son of Thomas and
Margaret.
Emma Fox, born about 1874, married Miles McCauley born about 1866 from
Lindsay. They married July 21 1896 in Cobourg. He is son of John
McCauley and Margaret Kehoe.
Evaline Fox, born about 1875, married Joseph Grosjean born about 1875
in Hamilton. He is son of John Grosjean and Mary Noland. Evaline
married 13 July 1897 in Cobourg.
Then we have the Margaret born about 1868 who married James Fox son of
Michael Fox and Ellen Roach. They married 19 June 1894 in Cobourg.
There is a son Joseph, born about 1866, married Mary Nolan who was
born about 1870 and was daughter of Hgh Nolan and Hanora Fitzgerald.
Married 21 July 1896 (same day as sister Emma) in Cobourg.
Daughter Loretta married Robert Struthers born about 1878, son of
James Struthers and Jane Webster. Married in Cobourg 5 November 1902.
Son William Fox (born about 1861) married Emilie Holmes, daughter of
William and Mary. Marriage was in Cobourg 5 May 1886.
So....we have at least 10 kids we know of who were children to the
couple.....John, William, Edward, Loretta, Evaline, Margaret, Joseph,
Emma, Elizabeth and Charles.
First born looks like Elizabeth (born 1858), so the couple Michael and
Cecilia were probably married 1857 or so, prior to civil marriage
registrations.
Mary
Thank you, Mary, very much appreciated!!
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CWatters
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
<chantellerock@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bb64af25-1e64-4c29-9a79-ee3b0ba6fc3e@p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
No idea if this is him..
http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search
Surname Given Name Cemetery County Township Reference
FOX Michael C. St Michael's Roman Catholic, Cobourg Northumberland
Hamilton KW-N-484-X
news:bb64af25-1e64-4c29-9a79-ee3b0ba6fc3e@p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Can someone help me find the parents of Michael C. Fox (1802-1882)
married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John
Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson
to Michael Fox. Help!!!
No idea if this is him..
http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search
Surname Given Name Cemetery County Township Reference
FOX Michael C. St Michael's Roman Catholic, Cobourg Northumberland
Hamilton KW-N-484-X
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CWatters
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
"CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote in message
news:13mocpurclmp0a1@corp.supernews.com...
If that is him then there are other FOX in same cemetry including
FOX Cecelia (Moran) St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
Others..
FOX Agnes Cecelia St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Alma C. St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Amelia (Holmes)St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Ann Loretta St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Basil J. St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Bessie St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Catherine (Gregg)St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Cecil St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Cyril St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Dorothy A. (Milner) St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Eliza St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Ella (Farry) St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX F. Edward Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX Frank St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Fred St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Gertrude St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Hazel A. Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX John St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX John C.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Lillian M.Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX Mary B.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Mary IreneSt Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Michael St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Michael C.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Ross Arnold B.Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX Sarah (Gregg)St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Stella M. (Battersby)Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX William ErnestSt Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX William M.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
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chantellerock@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bb64af25-1e64-4c29-9a79-ee3b0ba6fc3e@p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Can someone help me find the parents of Michael C. Fox (1802-1882)
married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John
Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson
to Michael Fox. Help!!!
No idea if this is him..
http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search
Surname Given Name Cemetery County Township Reference
FOX Michael C. St Michael's Roman Catholic, Cobourg Northumberland
Hamilton KW-N-484-X
If that is him then there are other FOX in same cemetry including
FOX Cecelia (Moran) St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
Others..
FOX Agnes Cecelia St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Alma C. St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Amelia (Holmes)St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Ann Loretta St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Basil J. St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Bessie St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Catherine (Gregg)St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Cecil St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Cyril St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Dorothy A. (Milner) St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Eliza St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Ella (Farry) St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX F. Edward Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX Frank St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Fred St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Gertrude St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Hazel A. Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX John St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX John C.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Lillian M.Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX Mary B.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Mary IreneSt Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Michael St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Michael C.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Ross Arnold B.Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX Sarah (Gregg)St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX Stella M. (Battersby)Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
FOX William ErnestSt Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
FOX William M.St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
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CWatters
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
Also worth a look.. Are the common reference numbers indicating family
plots? I don't know the system over there.
14 matches, page: 1
SurnameGiven NameCemeteryCountyTownshipReference
MORAN Ann St Peter's Churchyard, CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN Archibald Grant St Peter's Churchyard,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN Bridget St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN CatherineSt Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORANCecelia St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN Dora St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN Elizabeth St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN James St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN Leona (Taylor)Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
MORAN Mabel Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
MORAN Randy MervinCobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
MORAN Ruby St Peter's Churchyard, CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN William St Peter's Churchyard, CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN William J. Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
plots? I don't know the system over there.
14 matches, page: 1
SurnameGiven NameCemeteryCountyTownshipReference
MORAN Ann St Peter's Churchyard, CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN Archibald Grant St Peter's Churchyard,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN Bridget St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN CatherineSt Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORANCecelia St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN Dora St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN Elizabeth St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN James St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
MORAN Leona (Taylor)Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
MORAN Mabel Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
MORAN Randy MervinCobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
MORAN Ruby St Peter's Churchyard, CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN William St Peter's Churchyard, CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-486-6
MORAN William J. Cobourg UnionNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-N096
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CWatters
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
"CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote in message
news:13mods8hck38ja4@corp.supernews.com...
Seems they aren't plot references but refer to the contributing
organisation...scroll down..
http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/addresses.html
so
For REFERENCE FIELD numbers beginning with "KW-", write to...
Kawartha Branch, OGS
Box 861
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
K9J 7A2
news:13mods8hck38ja4@corp.supernews.com...
Also worth a look.. Are the common reference numbers indicating family
plots? I don't know the system over there.
Seems they aren't plot references but refer to the contributing
organisation...scroll down..
http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/addresses.html
FOX Cecelia (Moran) St Michael's Roman Catholic,
CobourgNorthumberlandHamiltonKW-N-484-X
so
For REFERENCE FIELD numbers beginning with "KW-", write to...
Kawartha Branch, OGS
Box 861
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
K9J 7A2
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CWatters
Re: Michael C. Fox & Cecilia Fox, nee Moran
So perhaps the headstones worth a look to see Michael and wife buried in
family lots or with helpful inscriptions.
family lots or with helpful inscriptions.