Greetings all...
Some time ago I met a cousin, the Grandson of my 2nd Great Grandfather's
sister... So, Second Cousin twice removed, and he told me that he
remembered my 2nd Great Grandfather and told me a few stories about him.
Some of it was vague, as he was only five years old at the time, but he
remembered enough to be quite informative. One of the things he told me was
that 2nd Great Grandfather, Anthony Doemer, was shot on a holiday and
carried that bullet with him for the rest of his life. This was a second
hand story as it happened before this cousin was born. Today I ran across
an article and will reproduce it below.
"RECKLESS AND FATAL SHOOTING
Cincinnati, Jan. 2. -- A special dispatch says that at a late hour last
night Anthony Doemer was walking up Gratiot-avenue, Detroit, Mich., on his
way home, when a cutter containing three men passed along at a rapid rate.
When opposite Doemer one of the occupants drew a revolver and fired. The
ball entered Doemer's left thigh and talking an upward course, is believed
to have penetrated the lungs. The wounded man sank to the pavement, while
the cutter dashed on, one of the party crying out, "How's that for a happy
New Year's!" A policeman hearing the shot came to Doemer's assistance. A
surgeon probed for the bullet unsuccesfully, internal hemorrahage set in and
the man will probably die."
The New York Times
Published January 3, 1879
Copyright The New York Times.
This may have been a dramatization on the part of the writers, but Anthony
didn't die, but lived until 1924.
Anyway, does anyone know what a cutter would have been?
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What's a cutter?
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CWatters
Re: What's a cutter?
"James A. Doemer" <ckdbigtoeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Not much has changed. These days they shout "How's that for a happy
slapping" or "tell me you got that on camera?"
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"RECKLESS AND FATAL SHOOTING
Cincinnati, Jan. 2. -- A special dispatch says that at a late hour last
night Anthony Doemer was walking up Gratiot-avenue, Detroit, Mich., on his
way home, when a cutter containing three men passed along at a rapid rate.
When opposite Doemer one of the occupants drew a revolver and fired. The
ball entered Doemer's left thigh and talking an upward course, is believed
to have penetrated the lungs. The wounded man sank to the pavement,
while
the cutter dashed on, one of the party crying out, "How's that for a happy
New Year's!" A policeman hearing the shot came to Doemer's assistance.
A
surgeon probed for the bullet unsuccesfully, internal hemorrahage set in
and
the man will probably die."
The New York Times
Published January 3, 1879
Copyright The New York Times.
Not much has changed. These days they shout "How's that for a happy
slapping" or "tell me you got that on camera?"
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Gjest
Re: What's a cutter?
My great grandfather was a draper in a men's clothing store back in
the 1890's. A draper was the guy who helped the client select the
style and fabric their suit was to be made of, and he took the
client's measurements. The cutter was the person who cut the pieces
out of the fabric (he was important since mistakes were costly, and he
also had to know how to lay out the pieces in such as way as to
minimize the amount of fabric used), and the tailor then sewed the
pieces to form the garments.
A high school friend of mine is also in a job titled cutter, also in
the garment industry. She works for a large theatrical costume
company, and her job is to take the often vague drawings produced by
the costume designer, and translate them into a pattern and an actual
garment.
There are cutters in factories as well - they lay out the fabric in
layers and do the actual cutting out of the pieces from the patterns
before the pieces are assembled.
Mary G.
the 1890's. A draper was the guy who helped the client select the
style and fabric their suit was to be made of, and he took the
client's measurements. The cutter was the person who cut the pieces
out of the fabric (he was important since mistakes were costly, and he
also had to know how to lay out the pieces in such as way as to
minimize the amount of fabric used), and the tailor then sewed the
pieces to form the garments.
A high school friend of mine is also in a job titled cutter, also in
the garment industry. She works for a large theatrical costume
company, and her job is to take the often vague drawings produced by
the costume designer, and translate them into a pattern and an actual
garment.
There are cutters in factories as well - they lay out the fabric in
layers and do the actual cutting out of the pieces from the patterns
before the pieces are assembled.
Mary G.
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ann ritchie
Re: What's a cutter?
James: In this case the "cutter" mentioned is a type of horse drawn sleigh,
usually pulled by one horse, but sometimes by two. I have one sitting in my
barn.
Ann
"James A. Doemer" wrote:
usually pulled by one horse, but sometimes by two. I have one sitting in my
barn.
Ann
"James A. Doemer" wrote:
Cincinnati, Jan. 2. -- A special dispatch says that at a late hour last
night Anthony Doemer was walking up Gratiot-avenue, Detroit, Mich., on his
way home, when a cutter containing three men passed along at a rapid rate.
When opposite Doemer one of the occupants drew a revolver and fired. The
ball entered Doemer's left thigh and talking an upward course, is believed
to have penetrated the lungs. The wounded man sank to the pavement, while
the cutter dashed on, one of the party crying out, "How's that for a happy
New Year's!" A policeman hearing the shot came to Doemer's assistance. A
surgeon probed for the bullet unsuccesfully, internal hemorrahage set in and
the man will probably die."
Anyway, does anyone know what a cutter would have been?
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Scruffy McScruffovitch
Re: What's a cutter?
That's very interesting, although in the context of the situation and
article I think the horse drawn sleigh is probably what it meant. Thanks
for the history though.
<Mary_Gordon@tvo.org> wrote in message
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article I think the horse drawn sleigh is probably what it meant. Thanks
for the history though.
<Mary_Gordon@tvo.org> wrote in message
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My great grandfather was a draper in a men's clothing store back in
the 1890's. A draper was the guy who helped the client select the
style and fabric their suit was to be made of, and he took the
client's measurements. The cutter was the person who cut the pieces
out of the fabric (he was important since mistakes were costly, and he
also had to know how to lay out the pieces in such as way as to
minimize the amount of fabric used), and the tailor then sewed the
pieces to form the garments.
A high school friend of mine is also in a job titled cutter, also in
the garment industry. She works for a large theatrical costume
company, and her job is to take the often vague drawings produced by
the costume designer, and translate them into a pattern and an actual
garment.
There are cutters in factories as well - they lay out the fabric in
layers and do the actual cutting out of the pieces from the patterns
before the pieces are assembled.
Mary G.
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Scruffy McScruffovitch
Re: What's a cutter?
Yes, thank you very much.
"ann ritchie" <sawomri@mts.net> wrote in message
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"ann ritchie" <sawomri@mts.net> wrote in message
news:4729216E.2188A53C@mts.net...
James: In this case the "cutter" mentioned is a type of horse drawn
sleigh,
usually pulled by one horse, but sometimes by two. I have one sitting in
my
barn.
Ann
"James A. Doemer" wrote:
Cincinnati, Jan. 2. -- A special dispatch says that at a late hour last
night Anthony Doemer was walking up Gratiot-avenue, Detroit, Mich., on
his
way home, when a cutter containing three men passed along at a rapid
rate.
When opposite Doemer one of the occupants drew a revolver and fired. The
ball entered Doemer's left thigh and talking an upward course, is
believed
to have penetrated the lungs. The wounded man sank to the pavement,
while
the cutter dashed on, one of the party crying out, "How's that for a
happy
New Year's!" A policeman hearing the shot came to Doemer's assistance.
A
surgeon probed for the bullet unsuccesfully, internal hemorrahage set in
and
the man will probably die."
Anyway, does anyone know what a cutter would have been?
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James A. Doemer
Re: What's a cutter?
In News 13ihei0mflkueeb@corp.supernews.com,, CWatters at
colin.watters@turnersoak.plus.com, typed this:
LOL!
colin.watters@turnersoak.plus.com, typed this:
"James A. Doemer" <ckdbigtoeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2_qdnQ41f65-SbranZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.com...
"RECKLESS AND FATAL SHOOTING
Cincinnati, Jan. 2. -- A special dispatch says that at a late hour
last night Anthony Doemer was walking up Gratiot-avenue, Detroit,
Mich., on his way home, when a cutter containing three men passed
along at a rapid rate. When opposite Doemer one of the occupants
drew a revolver and fired. The ball entered Doemer's left thigh and
talking an upward course, is believed to have penetrated the lungs.
The wounded man sank to the pavement, while the cutter dashed on,
one of the party crying out, "How's that for a happy New Year's!"
A policeman hearing the shot came to Doemer's assistance. A surgeon
probed for the bullet unsuccesfully, internal hemorrahage set in and
the man will probably die."
The New York Times
Published January 3, 1879
Copyright The New York Times.
Not much has changed. These days they shout "How's that for a happy
slapping" or "tell me you got that on camera?"
LOL!