Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
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jj206
Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
Hi All,
I am looking at my family tree in the 1870 US
Census. The parents are Horace and Lydia Allen
in Madison, Lake Co, Ohio.
There are 4 known kids there. But there is an
unknown child there age 15 and she is listed
after the patriarch Asa Talcott. Lydia was
Asa's daughter. Anyway, I went back to the
1860 US Census and did not find any Mattie
Savage, but I did find an Ellen Savage in a
Orphanage in New York that fits her age.
Series: M653 Roll: 804 Page: 578
Is there an unusual amount of Ellens and Marys
on that census page ? Did they just give her
a name at the orphanage ?
So far, I have not found an relatives in my
tree with the last name of Savage.
Looks like there was a huge number of orphans
in New York after the cholera epidemic.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/orphans/si ... rityp2.htm
So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
If I search for Mattie, does Mathilda also get searched ?
The article above mentions half orphans and I am unsure
how to spot half orphans in the US Census.
Thanks for any info.
Jonathan
I am looking at my family tree in the 1870 US
Census. The parents are Horace and Lydia Allen
in Madison, Lake Co, Ohio.
There are 4 known kids there. But there is an
unknown child there age 15 and she is listed
after the patriarch Asa Talcott. Lydia was
Asa's daughter. Anyway, I went back to the
1860 US Census and did not find any Mattie
Savage, but I did find an Ellen Savage in a
Orphanage in New York that fits her age.
Series: M653 Roll: 804 Page: 578
Is there an unusual amount of Ellens and Marys
on that census page ? Did they just give her
a name at the orphanage ?
So far, I have not found an relatives in my
tree with the last name of Savage.
Looks like there was a huge number of orphans
in New York after the cholera epidemic.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/orphans/si ... rityp2.htm
So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
If I search for Mattie, does Mathilda also get searched ?
The article above mentions half orphans and I am unsure
how to spot half orphans in the US Census.
Thanks for any info.
Jonathan
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Marge
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
"jj206" <jj206@remoooooooooooovethisdrizzle.com> wrote in message
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I have one in my family and it is a nickname for Martha.
Marge
news:1176629379.219161@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
Hi All,
I am looking at my family tree in the 1870 US
Census. The parents are Horace and Lydia Allen
in Madison, Lake Co, Ohio.
There are 4 known kids there. But there is an
unknown child there age 15 and she is listed
after the patriarch Asa Talcott. Lydia was
Asa's daughter. Anyway, I went back to the
1860 US Census and did not find any Mattie
Savage, but I did find an Ellen Savage in a
Orphanage in New York that fits her age.
Series: M653 Roll: 804 Page: 578
Is there an unusual amount of Ellens and Marys
on that census page ? Did they just give her
a name at the orphanage ?
So far, I have not found an relatives in my
tree with the last name of Savage.
Looks like there was a huge number of orphans
in New York after the cholera epidemic.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/orphans/si ... rityp2.htm
So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
If I search for Mattie, does Mathilda also get searched ?
The article above mentions half orphans and I am unsure
how to spot half orphans in the US Census.
Thanks for any info.
Jonathan
I have one in my family and it is a nickname for Martha.
Marge
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Christopher Jahn
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
jj206 <jj206@remoooooooooooovethisdrizzle.com> wrote in
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Yes, it's often a nickname for "Madeline." Which kind of works
with your "Ellen," too: 'mad-ellen.'
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So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
Yes, it's often a nickname for "Madeline." Which kind of works
with your "Ellen," too: 'mad-ellen.'
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}:-) Christopher Jahn
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http://camera-ephemera.blogspot.com/
If I were you I'd dance naked in the middle of the street just
to embarrass you.
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clifto
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
Christopher Jahn wrote:
Martha has also been mentioned. I wonder if Matilda might be a candidate?
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jj206 <jj206@remoooooooooooovethisdrizzle.com> wrote:
So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
Yes, it's often a nickname for "Madeline." Which kind of works
with your "Ellen," too: 'mad-ellen.'
Martha has also been mentioned. I wonder if Matilda might be a candidate?
--
Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast.
That's why stereo has two channels.
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Charani
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:29:54 -0700, jj206 wrote:
Mattie is usually an abbreviation of Matilda but it could have been
acquired for any number of reasons not connected to the child's actual
name.
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I am looking at my family tree in the 1870 US
Census. The parents are Horace and Lydia Allen
in Madison, Lake Co, Ohio.
There are 4 known kids there. But there is an
unknown child there age 15 and she is listed
after the patriarch Asa Talcott. Lydia was
Asa's daughter. Anyway, I went back to the
1860 US Census and did not find any Mattie
Savage, but I did find an Ellen Savage in a
Orphanage in New York that fits her age.
8>< snip
So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
Mattie is usually an abbreviation of Matilda but it could have been
acquired for any number of reasons not connected to the child's actual
name.
--
http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/
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jj206
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
Marge wrote:
Thank you Marge.
Jonathan
So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
If I search for Mattie, does Mathilda also get searched ?
The article above mentions half orphans and I am unsure
how to spot half orphans in the US Census.
Thanks for any info.
Jonathan
I have one in my family and it is a nickname for Martha.
Marge
Thank you Marge.
Jonathan
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jj206
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
Christopher Jahn wrote:
Thanks for that !
Jonathan
jj206 <jj206@remoooooooooovethisdrizzle.com> wrote in
So is Mattie a nickname for another name ?
Yes, it's often a nickname for "Madeline." Which kind of works
with your "Ellen," too: 'mad-ellen.'
Thanks for that !
Jonathan
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Doug Corbin
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
"jj206" wrote in message news:1176629379.219161@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
William Talcott married Almira Savage on 7 Feb 1864 in Lake Co, OH. Looking
up Almira Savage in the 1860 census she has a 5 year old sister named Martha
Savage. Both Almira and Martha were born in NY.
Hi All,
I am looking at my family tree in the 1870 US
Census. The parents are Horace and Lydia Allen
in Madison, Lake Co, Ohio.
There are 4 known kids there. But there is an
unknown child there age 15 and she is listed
after the patriarch Asa Talcott. Lydia was
Asa's daughter. Anyway, I went back to the
1860 US Census and did not find any Mattie
Savage, but I did find an Ellen Savage in a
Orphanage in New York that fits her age.
Series: M653 Roll: 804 Page: 578
Is there an unusual amount of Ellens and Marys
on that census page ? Did they just give her
a name at the orphanage ?
So far, I have not found an relatives in my
tree with the last name of Savage.
William Talcott married Almira Savage on 7 Feb 1864 in Lake Co, OH. Looking
up Almira Savage in the 1860 census she has a 5 year old sister named Martha
Savage. Both Almira and Martha were born in NY.
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Steve Hayes
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:29:54 -0700, jj206 >So is Mattie a nickname for another
name ?
Mattie can also be a nickname for Martha.
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name ?
If I search for Mattie, does Mathilda also get searched ?
Mattie can also be a nickname for Martha.
--
Steve Hayes
E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work)
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/
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jj206
Re: Mattie a nickname for Ellen ?
Doug Corbin wrote:
Thank you so much !
"jj206" wrote in message news:1176629379.219161@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
Hi All,
I am looking at my family tree in the 1870 US
Census. The parents are Horace and Lydia Allen
in Madison, Lake Co, Ohio.
There are 4 known kids there. But there is an
unknown child there age 15 and she is listed
after the patriarch Asa Talcott. Lydia was
Asa's daughter. Anyway, I went back to the
1860 US Census and did not find any Mattie
Savage, but I did find an Ellen Savage in a
Orphanage in New York that fits her age.
Series: M653 Roll: 804 Page: 578
Is there an unusual amount of Ellens and Marys
on that census page ? Did they just give her
a name at the orphanage ?
So far, I have not found an relatives in my
tree with the last name of Savage.
William Talcott married Almira Savage on 7 Feb 1864 in Lake Co, OH. Looking
up Almira Savage in the 1860 census she has a 5 year old sister named Martha
Savage. Both Almira and Martha were born in NY.
Thank you so much !