Engilish name pronounciation

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Keith nuttle

Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av Keith nuttle » 09 mar 2007 22:04:42

I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

Is it probable that de Nuttle evolved into Knuttle as a phonetic
pronunciations were converted to the written record or is it possible
the two names are completely different, in origin. i.e. one Irish he
other Anglo-Saxon.

My family spells the name Nuttle

Thank you
--
Keith Nuttle
3110 Marquette Court
Indianapolis, IN 46268
317-802-0699

Hugh Watkins

Re: Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 10 mar 2007 03:04:06

Keith nuttle wrote:

I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

Is it probable that de Nuttle evolved into Knuttle as a phonetic
pronunciations were converted to the written record or is it possible
the two names are completely different, in origin. i.e. one Irish he
other Anglo-Saxon.

My family spells the name Nuttle

like any other question in genealogy you can only sort this out by
tracking the data from the present day step by step backwards


a very rare name

Record Mary Ellen Knuttle Peter abt 1828 Lodger Wife
(Lodger's Wife) Wavertree Lancashire
View Record Peter Knuttle Mary Ellen abt 1827 Bolton, Lancashire,
England Lodger Wavertree Lancashire

Ann Knuttle abt 1856 Marshside, Cumberland, England Servant
Upper Holker Lancashire

both poor quality sources for spelling because they were written by
strangers not family

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

no Knuttle


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ 129 records for Nuttle

Knutton

Knutt could even be Canute = Knut in danish

search Knut*

1841
Mary Knutlow abt 1786 Sheffield Yorkshire
View Record Samuel Knutlow abt 1771 Yorkshire, England Sheffield
Yorkshire
View Record William Knutlow abt 1831 Yorkshire, England Sheffield
Yorkshire

in the south Knutley


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nuttle
Possibly an altered spelling of Nuttall.
Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN
0-19-508137-4


Nuttall
English: habitational name from some place named with Old English hnutu
‘nut’ + h(e)alh ‘nook’, ‘recess’. In some cases this may be Nuthall in
Nottinghamshire, but the surname is common mainly in Lancashire, and a
Lancashire origin is therefore more likely. Nuttall in Bury, Lancashire,
was earlier Notehogh, from Old English hnutu + hoh ‘hill-spur’.
Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN
0-19-508137-4

Whitby abbey -- introduction
Mandate to Peter de Nuttle, escheator in the county of York, to deliver
the temporalities of Whiteby abbey to William de Burton, monk of the
said house, ...
http://www.boyntons.us/yorkshire/places ... bey01.html -

Balph de Neville, Peter de Nuttle, sheriff of York, and. Westminster.
Henry de Greystok

John de Nuttle (Nuttel). Inq. pm. [3 Edw. I. No. 18.] Writ dated at
Westminster, 27 April, 3rd year (1275). ... CIII. Peter de Nuttle alias
Nuttele ...


de Nuttall - from the place called Nuthall is plausable

terrain abbatis de Nutele et in Hullilande vnam acram iuxta. terrain
Willelmi Spileman et in ... quod nos frater ¢bWillelmus predictus abbas
de Nutele et .

a latin form

Quitclaim by William abbot of Notley to John de Greinville, of all
rights and claims on the lands and tenements which John held from the
abbey at Chilton, except the service of one penny yearly.
6. WILLIAM ABBOT OF NOTLEY, c. 1290.

Willelmus predictus abbas de Nutele


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the only KN*

knee

1. Irish and Manx: reduced form of McNee.

2. English (Wiltshire): nickname for someone with some peculiarity
of the knee(s), Middle English kne (Old English cneow).

3. German: altered spelling of knie ‘knee’, a topographic name for
an odd-shaped piece of land, or a nickname for someone with an unusual
or injured knee.


http://www.ancestry.com/learn/facts/Fac ... n=&ln=knee

thinking about "-DL-"

HUDL and LIDL look past germany to the eastern austrian empire

danish
our query knu produced 4 result(s).

Dansk English
kram, knus hug
knurre growl, grumble
knuse smash, crush, shatter
knude node, knot

Dansk English
kniv knife


Kn is sounded in danish
and silent "K" in english
'
Dansk English
vide know how, know
meddele let know, inform
knude node, knot
kendskab, viden knowledge
kende know, be acquainted with
banke strike, knock, beat

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what is your source for Knuttle

I suspect a typo or a foreign lanueage

Graham Knuttel, Irish Artist, K = Mac in the gailic

MacNutt

Hugh W

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Ron

Re: Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av Ron » 10 mar 2007 04:22:26

Keith nuttle wrote:
I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

Is it probable that de Nuttle evolved into Knuttle as a phonetic
pronunciations were converted to the written record or is it possible
the two names are completely different, in origin. i.e. one Irish he
other Anglo-Saxon.

My family spells the name Nuttle

Thank you

I can see Knuttle to Nuttle as the K is basically silent as in Knowles

but cannot see De Nuttle to Knuttle - I would expect the De to be
dropped but not a K added

Doing a very quick scan in google

Knuttel appears to be Dutch whereas Knuttle is perhaps German
maybe all from the border area - that's a very quick observation

Either surname not found at http://boards.rootsweb.com/ so I'd suggest
starting one - and a few people asking about the name

also at http://genforum.genealogy.com/my/

--
Ron Lankshear - Sydney Aust (from London- Shepherds Bush & Chiswick)
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~lankshear/

Steve Hayes

Re: Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av Steve Hayes » 10 mar 2007 04:52:04

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:22:26 +1100, Ron <ronlank@hotmail.com> wrote:

Keith nuttle wrote:
I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

Is it probable that de Nuttle evolved into Knuttle as a phonetic
pronunciations were converted to the written record or is it possible
the two names are completely different, in origin. i.e. one Irish he
other Anglo-Saxon.

My family spells the name Nuttle

Thank you

I can see Knuttle to Nuttle as the K is basically silent as in Knowles

Could it be a Manx name, where there is often a C or K equiovalent to Scottish
or Irish Mac - eg Clucas or Kneen?


--
Steve Hayes
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Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm
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Hugh Watkins

Re: Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 10 mar 2007 12:03:35

Ron wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:

I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

Is it probable that de Nuttle evolved into Knuttle as a phonetic
pronunciations were converted to the written record or is it possible
the two names are completely different, in origin. i.e. one Irish he
other Anglo-Saxon.

My family spells the name Nuttle

Thank you


I can see Knuttle to Nuttle as the K is basically silent as in Knowles

but cannot see De Nuttle to Knuttle - I would expect the De to be
dropped but not a K added

Doing a very quick scan in google

Knuttel appears to be Dutch whereas Knuttle is perhaps German
maybe all from the border area - that's a very quick observation

Either surname not found at http://boards.rootsweb.com/ so I'd suggest
starting one - and a few people asking about the name

also at http://genforum.genealogy.com/my/


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John H Brake <jhbrake@net2000.com.au>
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5:00 am (5 hours ago)

Hello Hugh

Just read your emai and got intrigued with the name NUTTLE. I checked
with Hanks & Hodges [Oxford] "A Dictionary of Surnames" without success
as well as "Reaney's Dictionary of British Surnames" with the same result.
However in both I did find NUTT, NUTTHALL and NUTTER.

I also looked at http://www.genforum.genealogy.com and got 48 messages in the
NUTTLE forum and puting in DE NUTTLE came up with a window I had not
seen before, but there are 84 different forums to look at.

Also go to http://www.genesreunited.com put say hugh nuttle in the 2 boxes at
the top, then scroll down to the box and delete hugh and put in england
as the birthplace and there are 15 from 1697 to 1987 and for knuttle
there is 1.

If you want to contact the people here, there is a sub which is about 10
pound sterling I believe; I paid $19.95 Australian for the year's sub.
For this you can contact any one on their list. It is well worth it.

Good hunting

John


Please reply to group

not "my" name

Hugh W
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Beta blogger
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Steven Gibbs

Re: Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av Steven Gibbs » 10 mar 2007 12:55:49

"Keith nuttle" <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:MZjIh.6559$P47.945@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

My family spells the name Nuttle

I would have thought it was likely to be a variant on the common name
NUTTALL.

Steven

Robert Stonehouse

Re: Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av Robert Stonehouse » 11 mar 2007 03:08:29

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:55:49 -0000, "Steven Gibbs"
<stevenng2@sgibbs1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

"Keith nuttle" <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:MZjIh.6559$P47.945@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

My family spells the name Nuttle

I would have thought it was likely to be a variant on the common name
NUTTALL.

My grandfather, from north east Yorkshire, pronounced Wood
Hall House as Woodle 'Ouse, two syllables.

--
Robert Stonehouse
To mail me, replace invalid with uk. Inconvenience regretted

jj206

Re: Engilish name pronounciation

Legg inn av jj206 » 12 mar 2007 10:36:03

Keith nuttle wrote:
I have some ancestors who spell their name Knuttle. I have found De
Nuttle in the early english records.

Is it probable that de Nuttle evolved into Knuttle as a phonetic
pronunciations were converted to the written record or is it possible
the two names are completely different, in origin. i.e. one Irish he
other Anglo-Saxon.

My family spells the name Nuttle

Thank you

Strange things seem to happen with names when people move from country
to country or culture to culture.

I met a guy at the national archives who was named Nestle. I asked him
the normal question if he was related to the Nestle company founders.
He said no. But his ancestor, when he came to America, loved chocolate
so much that he changed his name on arrival from Nestel to Nestle !

In other news, I have some cousins who have the last name McNutt. So
perhaps we're related somehow.

cheers,

Jonathan

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