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Ellen Scheeler

english information

Legg inn av Ellen Scheeler » 23 feb 2007 23:04:05

I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah Cawells One
is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as Sutton in
Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name was. The
birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if there are 2
Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and Sutton in Halderness
are the same place. Would appreciate it if someone that knows england would
reply to this. Ellen

Huntersglenn

Re: english information

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 24 feb 2007 02:34:19

I went to google.com and entered Aldbrough and came up with the
information that it's located in East Yorkshire, more specifically in
the vale of Holderness. I tried to find Sutton in Halderness, but
nothing turned up. There is however, a Sutton in Holderness, and it is
also in Yorkshire. It is also known as Sutton on Hull. Aldbrough is
located near Hull, so the two places don't sound as if they're that far
apart.

There are map sites online, and you could go to one of them to get a
better idea of how close the places are to one another. There's also a
site for Yorkshire on the World GenWeb:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~engyks/

There are map links on that site.

Hope that helps,
Cathy


Ellen Scheeler wrote:
I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah Cawells One
is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as Sutton in
Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name was. The
birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if there are 2
Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and Sutton in Halderness
are the same place. Would appreciate it if someone that knows england would
reply to this. Ellen


Lesley Robertson

Re: english information

Legg inn av Lesley Robertson » 24 feb 2007 10:15:33

"Ellen Scheeler" <scheel@midrivers.com> schreef in bericht
news:ernoc6$lb6$1@news04.infoave.net...
I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah Cawells One
is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as Sutton in
Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name was. The
birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if there are 2
Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and Sutton in Halderness
are the same place. Would appreciate it if someone that knows england would
reply to this. Ellen
I think that you'll find GENUKI useful - http://www.genuki.org.uk/. It's the

central web site for british genealogy.
If you feed Aldborough and Sutton to Multimap http://uk.multimap.com, you'll
find that they are separate villages. Even here
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/A.html , where old names are
included, I can find no trace of Halderness or Sutton in Halderness.
Some names can be regarded as rare, but locally common - your 2 Hannahs
could be cousins or second cousins - imagine 2 or more brothers of cousins
each wanting to name their daughter after their gandmother, for example.
Don't make assumptions, just keep separate notes on what you're sure of and
what is hypothesis - and as Sharon said, sent a query to
soc.genealogy.britain. It would be a good idea to include information on
where you have looked.
Lesley Robertson

Hugh Watkins

Re: english information

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 24 feb 2007 10:28:18

Ellen Scheeler wrote:

I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah Cawells One
is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as Sutton in
Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name was. The
birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if there are 2
Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and Sutton in Halderness
are the same place. Would appreciate it if someone that knows england would
reply to this. Ellen

the basics of english genealogy are already on line
use GENUKI as a key word in google
or explore http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/
GENealogy in the United Kingdom and Ireland
http://www.genuki.org.uk/org/


news:soc.genealogy.britain is the origin of the genbrit lists

you must question any source giving a birthdate of 1774 because in
general birth dates are not recorded (eg unusual in church books AKA
parish registers) before 1 July 1837 and the birth records in civil
registration - which anyway are incomplete up to about 1875

Baptisms / christenings often take place years after birth

another important freebie to download is Parloc
Parish Locator
http://parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

* Roy Stockdill's Newbies' Guide to Genealogy and Family History,
was originally written for Yorkshire researchers, provides a lot of
useful advice which is relevant to most areas of the UK.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html

and then join a rootsweb county list for local knowledge
finaly you will ned to see an image of the original parish registers on
film from LDS or a county record office

good luck

Hugh W

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Anne Chambers

Re: english information

Legg inn av Anne Chambers » 24 feb 2007 11:26:03

Hugh Watkins wrote:

Ellen Scheeler wrote:

I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah
Cawells One is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as
Sutton in Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name
was. The birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if
there are 2 Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and
Sutton in Halderness are the same place. Would appreciate it if
someone that knows england would reply to this. Ellen

What are your sources ?

According to
http://www.hicksons.org/ByCounty/Yorksh ... ions2.html

Aldborough is 9.5 miles from Farnham, 9.9 miles from Tollerton, 10.2
miles from Knaresborough, 10.5 miles from Cundall, 11.3 miles from
Ripon, 11.3 miles from Kirk Deighton, 11.9 miles from Easingwold, 12.7
miles from Follifoot, 13.6 miles from Harrogate, 19.6 miles from York

Sutton on Hull (Sutton in Holderness)
Sutton on Hull is near Swine, Leven, Sigglesthorne, Withernwick,
Keyingham, Drypool, Hessle, Kingston-upon-Hull, Newington,
Cottingham, Sculcoates and Beverley.

So they are in the same county but are not the same place..

The IGI has this extracted entry
HANNAH CAWELL
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
09 OCT 1774 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM CAWELL Family

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the
birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.:
Type:
C107462 1721 - 1812




Other CAWELLS with the same batch number (all with father William
CAWEL(L) are

2. ANN CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUL 1788 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
3. MARY CAWEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUL 1775 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
4. MARY CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 JUN 1785 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
5. ROSE CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAY 1778 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
6. PHILIP CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 SEP 1793 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England


this may or may not be the same Hannah
HANNAH CAWELL
Female Family


Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS SALMOND Family
Marriage:
14 JAN 1799 Burton Pidsea, Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source
records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.:
Type:
M108802 1718 - 1812 0990895 Film 6911190 Film
Sheet: 00

You might need to get the films and see if there is any more information.




--
Anne Chambers,
South Australia
anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

Don Aitken

Re: english information

Legg inn av Don Aitken » 24 feb 2007 11:59:49

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:53:11 +1030, Anne Chambers <anne@privacy.net>
wrote:

Hugh Watkins wrote:

Ellen Scheeler wrote:

I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah
Cawells One is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as
Sutton in Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name
was. The birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if
there are 2 Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and
Sutton in Halderness are the same place. Would appreciate it if
someone that knows england would reply to this. Ellen

What are your sources ?

According to
http://www.hicksons.org/ByCounty/Yorksh ... ions2.html

Aldborough is 9.5 miles from Farnham, 9.9 miles from Tollerton, 10.2
miles from Knaresborough, 10.5 miles from Cundall, 11.3 miles from
Ripon, 11.3 miles from Kirk Deighton, 11.9 miles from Easingwold, 12.7
miles from Follifoot, 13.6 miles from Harrogate, 19.6 miles from York

Sutton on Hull (Sutton in Holderness)
Sutton on Hull is near Swine, Leven, Sigglesthorne, Withernwick,
Keyingham, Drypool, Hessle, Kingston-upon-Hull, Newington,
Cottingham, Sculcoates and Beverley.

So they are in the same county but are not the same place..

He did say Aldbrough! And there is indeed an Aldbrough in Yorkshire as

well as an Aldborough. It is in Holderness, less than nine miles from
Sutton. Although now a small village, it was once an important place,
and, before 1832, a parliamentary borough.

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Joe.wakefield

Re: english information

Legg inn av Joe.wakefield » 24 feb 2007 12:13:19

On 24/02/2007 10:23, Anne Chambers wrote:
Hugh Watkins wrote:

Ellen Scheeler wrote:

I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah
Cawells One is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as
Sutton in Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name
was. The birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if
there are 2 Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and
Sutton in Halderness are the same place. Would appreciate it if
someone that knows england would reply to this. Ellen

What are your sources ?

According to
http://www.hicksons.org/ByCounty/Yorksh ... ions2.html

Aldborough is 9.5 miles from Farnham, 9.9 miles from Tollerton, 10.2
miles from Knaresborough, 10.5 miles from Cundall, 11.3 miles from
Ripon, 11.3 miles from Kirk Deighton, 11.9 miles from Easingwold, 12.7
miles from Follifoot, 13.6 miles from Harrogate, 19.6 miles from York

Sutton on Hull (Sutton in Holderness)
Sutton on Hull is near Swine, Leven, Sigglesthorne, Withernwick,
Keyingham, Drypool, Hessle, Kingston-upon-Hull, Newington,
Cottingham, Sculcoates and Beverley.

So they are in the same county but are not the same place..

The IGI has this extracted entry
HANNAH CAWELL
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
09 OCT 1774 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM CAWELL Family

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the
birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type:
Printout Call No.: Type:
C107462 1721 - 1812




Other CAWELLS with the same batch number (all with father William
CAWEL(L) are

2. ANN CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUL 1788 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
3. MARY CAWEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUL 1775 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
4. MARY CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 JUN 1785 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
5. ROSE CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAY 1778 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England
6. PHILIP CAWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 SEP 1793 Sutton In Holderness, Yorkshire,
England


this may or may not be the same Hannah
HANNAH CAWELL
Female Family


Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS SALMOND Family
Marriage:
14 JAN 1799 Burton Pidsea, Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type:
Printout Call No.: Type:
M108802 1718 - 1812 0990895 Film 6911190
Film
Sheet: 00

You might need to get the films and see if there is any more information.





To add to this information Aldbrough (not Aldborough) is a small village
on the Holderness coastline.
See http://www.geonames.org/2657561/aldbrough.html for map.
A website covering the area is at
http://www.curiousfox.com/history/yorks ... ding.lasso and is worth
a look at.

Sutton in Holderness is now known as Sutton on Hull.
See http://www.geonames.org/2636478/sutton-on-hull.html for map.
The distance between Sutton on Hull and Aldbrough is about 9 miles.

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Ellen Scheeler

Re: english information

Legg inn av Ellen Scheeler » 26 feb 2007 18:23:51

Hannah Cawell and Thomas Salmond married jan 14 1799 are my ggg
grandparents. I don't know their parents. What I am trying to find out is
if this is the same Hannah Cawell and if indeed her father was William And
if these are her siblings. How do I go about finding this out. I am quite
new to genealogy and know nothing about british genealogy. Ellen
"Ellen Scheeler" <scheel@midrivers.com> wrote in message
news:ernoc6$lb6$1@news04.infoave.net...
I am having a little trouble with my ancestor. I have 2 Hannah Cawells One
is listed with an address of Aldbrough and the other as Sutton in
Halderness, Yorkshire. I do not know what the parents name was. The
birthdate 0f 1774 is the same for both. I was wondering if there are 2
Hannah Cawells born the same year or if Aldbrough and Sutton in Halderness
are the same place. Would appreciate it if someone that knows england would
reply to this. Ellen

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