IGI 1880 US Census

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Graeme Wall

IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Graeme Wall » 18 feb 2007 17:36:50

Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in the
index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household display
all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the significance of
this?

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Marge

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Marge » 19 feb 2007 14:44:51

"Graeme Wall" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:82a92bb74e%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk...
Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in
the
index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household
display
all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the significance
of
this?

--
Graeme Wall

I'm curious as to the meaning also, please post reply on newsgroup.
Thank you

Charles Ellson

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Charles Ellson » 19 feb 2007 21:54:10

On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:44:51 -0500, "Marge"
<margaretqclark@comcast.net> wrote:

"Graeme Wall" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:82a92bb74e%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk...
Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in
the
index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household
display
all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the significance
of
this?

I'm curious as to the meaning also, please post reply on newsgroup.
Thank you

Could it be "original data" in the form of a householder's schedule if

the US census was done in the same way as the UK with individual
household schedules copied into enumerators' books ?

singhals

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av singhals » 20 feb 2007 18:27:20

Graeme Wall wrote:

Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in the
index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household display
all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the significance of
this?


*Probably* means that the family is in some other LDS
database with slightly different facts. The 1880 "orig
Data" is tagged so the search engines will keep the two
separate.

Cheryl

Graeme Wall

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Graeme Wall » 20 feb 2007 18:41:59

In message <S4udnVNdapDqskbYnZ2dnUVZ_tLinZ2d@rcn.net>
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:

Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in
the index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household
display all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the
significance of this?


*Probably* means that the family is in some other LDS database with
slightly different facts. The 1880 "orig Data" is tagged so the search
engines will keep the two separate.


But I've looked up plenty of people in the 1880 who are also listed in the
other databases and haven't come across it before. In fact one of the
reasons I was using it was checking up on some Patron submissions.

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website:
<http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html>

Huntersglenn

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 20 feb 2007 20:06:10

I replied to this yesterday, but the post still hasn't shown up (not
even at googlegroups), so if I end up posting this twice, forgive me).

I compared the 1880 census at FamilySearch with the 1880 census at
ancestry.com, and it seems that the only households with that 'Orig
Data' notation are those in that district. I looked at other districts
and didn't see that notation at all. I did not seek out other districts
that might have been done by that same enumerator though, but that
notation is NOT on the original pages, it's only at FamilySearch.

I did notice that there are people on the 1880 at ancestry.com who I
could not find on the FamilySearch transribed census. This is something
I noticed when I got my ancestry.com subscription - names that I'd been
unable to find on my FamilySearch discs were easily found at
ancestry.com - whoever did the transcription for the company that
produced the 1880 census for FamilySearch made a lot of errors. It also
ticked me off that the year after I bought the set of CDs, FamilySearch
put the census online for free. I can say that that notation is not on
the CD that I have from them - so it's something that looks to be added
for the online version, but I have no idea why.

My first thought was that the notation was there because there were so
many non-related people in the household, and it was to let a researcher
know that this was indeed the way the household was shown, but as I
mentioned above, the notation is used for every household in that
district that I looked at (I didn't look at them all, but I did look at
at least 10 pages), even ones where everyone is the same family, so that
ruins that theory.

Cathy

Graeme Wall wrote:

Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in the
index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household display
all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the significance of
this?

Graeme Wall

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Graeme Wall » 20 feb 2007 20:17:18

In message <ZBHCh.789$3W4.642@newsfe21.lga>
Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:

[snip]
My first thought was that the notation was there because there were so
many non-related people in the household, and it was to let a researcher
know that this was indeed the way the household was shown, but as I
mentioned above, the notation is used for every household in that
district that I looked at (I didn't look at them all, but I did look at
at least 10 pages), even ones where everyone is the same family, so that
ruins that theory.


It gets more puzzling.

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website:
<http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html>

T.M. Sommers

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av T.M. Sommers » 24 feb 2007 04:37:51

Huntersglenn wrote:
I compared the 1880 census at FamilySearch with the 1880 census at
ancestry.com, and it seems that the only households with that 'Orig
Data' notation are those in that district. I looked at other districts
and didn't see that notation at all. I did not seek out other districts
that might have been done by that same enumerator though, but that
notation is NOT on the original pages, it's only at FamilySearch.

I ran across the same footnote a while ago when looking for David
Carson, Baltimore City, Ward 16, Precinct 4. I did not check the
rest of the district.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

Hugh Watkins

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 24 feb 2007 10:29:39

T.M. Sommers wrote:

Huntersglenn wrote:


I compared the 1880 census at FamilySearch with the 1880 census at
ancestry.com, and it seems that the only households with that 'Orig
Data' notation are those in that district. I looked at other
districts and didn't see that notation at all. I did not seek out
other districts that might have been done by that same enumerator
though, but that notation is NOT on the original pages, it's only at
FamilySearch.


I ran across the same footnote a while ago when looking for David
Carson, Baltimore City, Ward 16, Precinct 4. I did not check the rest
of the district.

did you look at an image of the original document?

Hugh W


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jj206

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av jj206 » 24 feb 2007 12:09:48

Graeme Wall wrote:
Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in the
index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household display
all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the significance of
this?


I did a google search for orig data in quotes and the word census
and found this list of websites that might be interesting to pore
over if you are in the mood for that.

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl ... tnG=Search

It is possible that orig data means nothing or basically means something
only to a very few software writers or programmers. In other words, it
could mean something so obscure that it is gibberish to most people. (^:

Jonathan

Graeme Wall

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av Graeme Wall » 24 feb 2007 12:27:37

In message <1172315376.741878@bubbleator.drizzle.com>
jj206 <jj206@remoooooooooooovethisdrizzle.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
Just come across something unusual. Looking up Levi P Morton (b 1824) in
the index to the 1881 US Census on the IGI, when looking at the household
display all the names are tagged as 'Orig Data'. What would be the
significance of this?


I did a google search for orig data in quotes and the word census and found
this list of websites that might be interesting to pore over if you are in
the mood for that.

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl ... tnG=Search

It is possible that orig data means nothing or basically means something
only to a very few software writers or programmers. In other words, it
could mean something so obscure that it is gibberish to most people. (^:


That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website:
<http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html>

T.M. Sommers

Re: IGI 1880 US Census

Legg inn av T.M. Sommers » 25 feb 2007 05:19:32

Hugh Watkins wrote:
T.M. Sommers wrote:
Huntersglenn wrote:

I compared the 1880 census at FamilySearch with the 1880 census at
ancestry.com, and it seems that the only households with that 'Orig
Data' notation are those in that district. I looked at other
districts and didn't see that notation at all. I did not seek out
other districts that might have been done by that same enumerator
though, but that notation is NOT on the original pages, it's only at
FamilySearch.

I ran across the same footnote a while ago when looking for David
Carson, Baltimore City, Ward 16, Precinct 4. I did not check the rest
of the district.

did you look at an image of the original document?

Just did. Nothing out of the ordinary that I can see.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

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