Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
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saki
Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
I just noticed something odd about a side-branch of my Petersen family in
Nebraska. The 1910 census has three listings for them in Ward 6, 7 and 11
of Douglas County (Omaha).
Only the Ward 11 listing is accurate in terms of family relationships. The
others describe Alfred Petersen (head of household) as having a daughter
called Hannah, though she was really his wife. Each ward lists them on
different streets as well.
Is this just a case of the family having (possibly) three different homes?
Or some other curiosity of the 1910 census?
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http://sakionline.net/familypage
Nebraska. The 1910 census has three listings for them in Ward 6, 7 and 11
of Douglas County (Omaha).
Only the Ward 11 listing is accurate in terms of family relationships. The
others describe Alfred Petersen (head of household) as having a daughter
called Hannah, though she was really his wife. Each ward lists them on
different streets as well.
Is this just a case of the family having (possibly) three different homes?
Or some other curiosity of the 1910 census?
----
saki@ucla.edu
http://sakionline.net/familypage
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singhals
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
saki wrote:
You're sure it _is_ the same family, not just three separate
Alfred Petersen families? What is the date on each of
enumeration sheets?
Cheryl
I just noticed something odd about a side-branch of my Petersen family in
Nebraska. The 1910 census has three listings for them in Ward 6, 7 and 11
of Douglas County (Omaha).
Only the Ward 11 listing is accurate in terms of family relationships. The
others describe Alfred Petersen (head of household) as having a daughter
called Hannah, though she was really his wife. Each ward lists them on
different streets as well.
Is this just a case of the family having (possibly) three different homes?
Or some other curiosity of the 1910 census?
You're sure it _is_ the same family, not just three separate
Alfred Petersen families? What is the date on each of
enumeration sheets?
Cheryl
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Sir Creep
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
singhals wrote:
Three 'Alfred' Petersens all with 'Hannahs' living in the house in
Omaha in 1910? Those odds seem slim to me, but who knows? We're not
talking John/Mary....we're talking Alfred/Hannah. OTOH, I worked with
a guy who had 3 brothers, and all 4 ended up marrying a girl named
Debbie! [I think that was the name...it's 22 yrs ago].
My Great uncle was listed TWICE in the Harrisburg area in 1930. Once
(properly) as the son in his parents house, and once (improperly) as
the son-in-law in his in-law's house. Well, maybe I got the properly-
improperly thing mixed up (LMAO), but dammit, he was only living in
one place in 1930. The census fella obviously didn't figure it out,
or was fibbed to. So this situatoin you refer to isn't unique.
Patrick
saki wrote:
I just noticed something odd about a side-branch of my Petersen family in
Nebraska. The 1910 census has three listings for them in Ward 6, 7 and 11
of Douglas County (Omaha).
Only the Ward 11 listing is accurate in terms of family relationships. The
others describe Alfred Petersen (head of household) as having a daughter
called Hannah, though she was really his wife. Each ward lists them on
different streets as well.
Is this just a case of the family having (possibly) three different homes?
Or some other curiosity of the 1910 census?
You're sure it _is_ the same family, not just three separate
Alfred Petersen families? What is the date on each of
enumeration sheets?
Cheryl
Three 'Alfred' Petersens all with 'Hannahs' living in the house in
Omaha in 1910? Those odds seem slim to me, but who knows? We're not
talking John/Mary....we're talking Alfred/Hannah. OTOH, I worked with
a guy who had 3 brothers, and all 4 ended up marrying a girl named
Debbie! [I think that was the name...it's 22 yrs ago].
My Great uncle was listed TWICE in the Harrisburg area in 1930. Once
(properly) as the son in his parents house, and once (improperly) as
the son-in-law in his in-law's house. Well, maybe I got the properly-
improperly thing mixed up (LMAO), but dammit, he was only living in
one place in 1930. The census fella obviously didn't figure it out,
or was fibbed to. So this situatoin you refer to isn't unique.
Patrick
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saki
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
singhals wrote:
It appears to be the same family in each. Ward 6 and Ward 11 were
enumerated on April 26, 1910, while Ward 7 was done on May 5, 1910.
The family constellation is the same in each, though arranged
differently. Alfred Petersen is the head, Hanna(h) Andersen is either
the housekeeper, his daughter, or his wife (second wife is correct, the
children are not hers); son Henry is a commercial traveler or salesman;
daughters Elizabeth and Hulga are stenographers at (respectively) a
biscuit company and a coal company.
Interestingly I don't find the three enumerations when searching
Ancestry for Alfred Petersen b. 1857 in Germany (actually Schleswig)
with Danish parents, but I see them when searching for son Henry
Peters*n, born in Nebraska in 1885. Then all three entries pop up.
Any ideas what's going on?
----
saki@ucla.edu
http://sakionline.net/familypage
saki wrote:
I just noticed something odd about a side-branch of my Petersen family
in Nebraska. The 1910 census has three listings for them in Ward 6, 7
and 11 of Douglas County (Omaha).
Only the Ward 11 listing is accurate in terms of family relationships.
The others describe Alfred Petersen (head of household) as having a
daughter called Hannah, though she was really his wife. Each ward
lists them on different streets as well.
Is this just a case of the family having (possibly) three different
homes? Or some other curiosity of the 1910 census?
You're sure it _is_ the same family, not just three separate Alfred
Petersen families? What is the date on each of enumeration sheets?
It appears to be the same family in each. Ward 6 and Ward 11 were
enumerated on April 26, 1910, while Ward 7 was done on May 5, 1910.
The family constellation is the same in each, though arranged
differently. Alfred Petersen is the head, Hanna(h) Andersen is either
the housekeeper, his daughter, or his wife (second wife is correct, the
children are not hers); son Henry is a commercial traveler or salesman;
daughters Elizabeth and Hulga are stenographers at (respectively) a
biscuit company and a coal company.
Interestingly I don't find the three enumerations when searching
Ancestry for Alfred Petersen b. 1857 in Germany (actually Schleswig)
with Danish parents, but I see them when searching for son Henry
Peters*n, born in Nebraska in 1885. Then all three entries pop up.
Any ideas what's going on?
----
saki@ucla.edu
http://sakionline.net/familypage
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clifto
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
Sir Creep wrote:
I have one 3yo girl who's listed near the top of one census sheet with
her parents, and near the bottom of the same sheet with an uncle and
aunt as "boarder".
--
"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day,
they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally.
I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine."
-- Bill Gates, in an interview with Newsweek's Steven Levy
My Great uncle was listed TWICE in the Harrisburg area in 1930. Once
(properly) as the son in his parents house, and once (improperly) as
the son-in-law in his in-law's house. Well, maybe I got the properly-
improperly thing mixed up (LMAO), but dammit, he was only living in
one place in 1930. The census fella obviously didn't figure it out,
or was fibbed to. So this situatoin you refer to isn't unique.
I have one 3yo girl who's listed near the top of one census sheet with
her parents, and near the bottom of the same sheet with an uncle and
aunt as "boarder".
--
"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day,
they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally.
I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine."
-- Bill Gates, in an interview with Newsweek's Steven Levy
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singhals
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
saki wrote:
I searched for Alfred 1910 Nebraska Douglas Co. These were
the only Peters*n; there were no Peders*n. There were 255
Alfred entries.
I don't see a Pe*n in Ward 11 --
PETERSEN ALFRED 55 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS 6-WD OMAHA 1910
1910 > NEBRASKA > DOUGLAS > 6-WD OMAHA
Series: T624 Roll: 843 Page: 209 3212 Second St.
Page says SUPPLEMENTAL SHEET -- enum Edward A. Shaw
Alf is widowed; parents were born in Denmark; imm 1882
son Henry 25, dau Elizabeth 19, and dau Hulga 17 all born Neb.
34-yr-old housekeeper named Hanna (or Hunna? or Henna?)
_Anderson_ 34 b Sweden imm 1890 I could be persuaded that
she is widowed.
PETERSEN ALFRED E 34 M W IL NE DOUGLAS 6-WD OMAHA 1910
no one named Hannah in household.
PETERSON ALFRED 53 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS 7-WD OMAHA 1910
imm 1882
Series: T624 Roll: 844 Page: 75 1323 S (31st?) Apt Enum
Lyle Huff.
appears to say Widowed. dau Hannah 34 -m-1 for 20ys; 1
child [imm 1890] son Henry 25, dau Elizabeth 19, dau Hulda 17
PETERSON ALFRED 53 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS 12-WD OMAHA 1910
Series: T624 Roll: 844 Page: 27 823 North 43rd enum ?? ??
Wolf
widowed; imm 1882
wife Hannah Anderson 37 -m- for 20 yrs 1 child; imm blank;b
Sweden
son Henry Pederson 25 dau Elizabeth 19 dau Hulya 17
PETERSON ALFRED G 38 M W SWED NE DOUGLAS 7-WD OMAHA 1910
married 1 for 11 yrs. imm 1891
wife Hanna 33 -m- 1 for 11; 5/5 imm 1892
son Allbrn ?!? 10, dau Adeline 9 son H Walter 7, son K
CLifford 4, dau Gladys 2 all b Neb
PETERSON ALFRED O 36 M W DENM NE DOUGLAS 9-WD OMAHA 1910
imm 1874; no one named Hanna(h) in household.
PETERSON ALFRED Q 34 M W IA NE DOUGLAS 12-WD OMAHA 1910
born Iowa, no one named Hannah in household.
I am also unhappy about Alf's marital status... three times
he says he's widowed. Once he could be wrong, twice could
be an enumerator error, but three times by 3 different
enumerators?
If you're on Ancestry, how many women named Hannah Anderson
are there in Douglas Co? (g) Enough to be statistically
comparable with the Alfreds?
Anyone here know Omaha well enough to say where the three
addresses are in relation to one another? Around the corner
or across town?
Cheryl
singhals wrote:
saki wrote:
I just noticed something odd about a side-branch of my Petersen
family in Nebraska. The 1910 census has three listings for them in
Ward 6, 7 and 11 of Douglas County (Omaha).
Only the Ward 11 listing is accurate in terms of family
relationships. The others describe Alfred Petersen (head of
household) as having a daughter called Hannah, though she was really
his wife. Each ward lists them on different streets as well.
Is this just a case of the family having (possibly) three different
homes? Or some other curiosity of the 1910 census?
You're sure it _is_ the same family, not just three separate Alfred
Petersen families? What is the date on each of enumeration sheets?
It appears to be the same family in each. Ward 6 and Ward 11 were
enumerated on April 26, 1910, while Ward 7 was done on May 5, 1910.
The family constellation is the same in each, though arranged
differently. Alfred Petersen is the head, Hanna(h) Andersen is either
the housekeeper, his daughter, or his wife (second wife is correct, the
children are not hers); son Henry is a commercial traveler or salesman;
daughters Elizabeth and Hulga are stenographers at (respectively) a
biscuit company and a coal company.
Interestingly I don't find the three enumerations when searching
Ancestry for Alfred Petersen b. 1857 in Germany (actually Schleswig)
with Danish parents, but I see them when searching for son Henry
Peters*n, born in Nebraska in 1885. Then all three entries pop up.
Any ideas what's going on?
----
saki@ucla.edu
http://sakionline.net/familypage
I searched for Alfred 1910 Nebraska Douglas Co. These were
the only Peters*n; there were no Peders*n. There were 255
Alfred entries.
I don't see a Pe*n in Ward 11 --
PETERSEN ALFRED 55 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS 6-WD OMAHA 1910
1910 > NEBRASKA > DOUGLAS > 6-WD OMAHA
Series: T624 Roll: 843 Page: 209 3212 Second St.
Page says SUPPLEMENTAL SHEET -- enum Edward A. Shaw
Alf is widowed; parents were born in Denmark; imm 1882
son Henry 25, dau Elizabeth 19, and dau Hulga 17 all born Neb.
34-yr-old housekeeper named Hanna (or Hunna? or Henna?)
_Anderson_ 34 b Sweden imm 1890 I could be persuaded that
she is widowed.
PETERSEN ALFRED E 34 M W IL NE DOUGLAS 6-WD OMAHA 1910
no one named Hannah in household.
PETERSON ALFRED 53 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS 7-WD OMAHA 1910
imm 1882
Series: T624 Roll: 844 Page: 75 1323 S (31st?) Apt Enum
Lyle Huff.
appears to say Widowed. dau Hannah 34 -m-1 for 20ys; 1
child [imm 1890] son Henry 25, dau Elizabeth 19, dau Hulda 17
PETERSON ALFRED 53 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS 12-WD OMAHA 1910
Series: T624 Roll: 844 Page: 27 823 North 43rd enum ?? ??
Wolf
widowed; imm 1882
wife Hannah Anderson 37 -m- for 20 yrs 1 child; imm blank;b
Sweden
son Henry Pederson 25 dau Elizabeth 19 dau Hulya 17
PETERSON ALFRED G 38 M W SWED NE DOUGLAS 7-WD OMAHA 1910
married 1 for 11 yrs. imm 1891
wife Hanna 33 -m- 1 for 11; 5/5 imm 1892
son Allbrn ?!? 10, dau Adeline 9 son H Walter 7, son K
CLifford 4, dau Gladys 2 all b Neb
PETERSON ALFRED O 36 M W DENM NE DOUGLAS 9-WD OMAHA 1910
imm 1874; no one named Hanna(h) in household.
PETERSON ALFRED Q 34 M W IA NE DOUGLAS 12-WD OMAHA 1910
born Iowa, no one named Hannah in household.
I am also unhappy about Alf's marital status... three times
he says he's widowed. Once he could be wrong, twice could
be an enumerator error, but three times by 3 different
enumerators?
If you're on Ancestry, how many women named Hannah Anderson
are there in Douglas Co? (g) Enough to be statistically
comparable with the Alfreds?
Anyone here know Omaha well enough to say where the three
addresses are in relation to one another? Around the corner
or across town?
Cheryl
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saki
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:19CdnTXqNMrHO1LYnZ2dnUVZ_oupnZ2d@rcn.net:
The Ancestry image is very light. It could be Ward 11 but it also looks
like Ward 12 to me. Looks like the house is on North 43rd Street. Here's
the entire page:
http://sakionline.net/uploads/alfpet1910w11.jpg
Ages for the children are correct, Alfred's is off by two years (he was
53). His immigration year was actually 1878 but it's never right in the
census.
In the 1900 census (the family was in Ward 9 at that time) Hannah
Anderson is listed as single but has one child (not living with her) and
she's the housekeeper for Alfred's family.
This is the 11th/12th ward entry for the image I mentioned above.
Hannah's listed as Alfred's wife here, which I suspect now is wrong.
She's not living with Aldred in the 1920 or 1930 census, who by then was
living with his daughter Elizabeth Hoffmann's family; but Hannah still
appears in family photos from c. 1938.
Hannah's 20-year marriage must have been to someone else. Alfred's wife
Mary died c. 1894; she was the mother of Alfred's children (1885 Nebraska
state census). This could explain the "Wd" for both Hannah and Alfred in
the 1910 census.
I think it points pretty clearly to his being widowed, then. Thanks for
helping me think this through!
There are more Hannahs than Alfreds, but I think these three particular
entries are of the same family (widowed father, grown children,
housekeeper)...I just can't figure out why!
I'll try to plot that out if I can find a map of the right vintage.
Many thanks for all responses.
----
saki@ucla.edu
http://sakionline.net/familypage
news:19CdnTXqNMrHO1LYnZ2dnUVZ_oupnZ2d@rcn.net:
I don't see a Pe*n in Ward 11 --
The Ancestry image is very light. It could be Ward 11 but it also looks
like Ward 12 to me. Looks like the house is on North 43rd Street. Here's
the entire page:
http://sakionline.net/uploads/alfpet1910w11.jpg
PETERSEN ALFRED 55 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS
6-WD OMAHA 1910 1910 > NEBRASKA > DOUGLAS > 6-WD OMAHA
Series: T624 Roll: 843 Page: 209 3212 Second St.
Page says SUPPLEMENTAL SHEET -- enum Edward A. Shaw
Alf is widowed; parents were born in Denmark; imm 1882
son Henry 25, dau Elizabeth 19, and dau Hulga 17 all born Neb.
Ages for the children are correct, Alfred's is off by two years (he was
53). His immigration year was actually 1878 but it's never right in the
census.
34-yr-old housekeeper named Hanna (or Hunna? or Henna?)
_Anderson_ 34 b Sweden imm 1890 I could be persuaded that
she is widowed.
In the 1900 census (the family was in Ward 9 at that time) Hannah
Anderson is listed as single but has one child (not living with her) and
she's the housekeeper for Alfred's family.
PETERSON ALFRED 53 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS
12-WD OMAHA 1910 Series: T624 Roll: 844 Page: 27 823 North
43rd enum ?? ?? Wolf
widowed; imm 1882
wife Hannah Anderson 37 -m- for 20 yrs 1 child; imm blank;b
Sweden
son Henry Pederson 25 dau Elizabeth 19 dau Hulya 17
This is the 11th/12th ward entry for the image I mentioned above.
Hannah's listed as Alfred's wife here, which I suspect now is wrong.
She's not living with Aldred in the 1920 or 1930 census, who by then was
living with his daughter Elizabeth Hoffmann's family; but Hannah still
appears in family photos from c. 1938.
Hannah's 20-year marriage must have been to someone else. Alfred's wife
Mary died c. 1894; she was the mother of Alfred's children (1885 Nebraska
state census). This could explain the "Wd" for both Hannah and Alfred in
the 1910 census.
I am also unhappy about Alf's marital status... three times
he says he's widowed. Once he could be wrong, twice could
be an enumerator error, but three times by 3 different
enumerators?
I think it points pretty clearly to his being widowed, then. Thanks for
helping me think this through!
If you're on Ancestry, how many women named Hannah Anderson
are there in Douglas Co? (g) Enough to be statistically
comparable with the Alfreds?
There are more Hannahs than Alfreds, but I think these three particular
entries are of the same family (widowed father, grown children,
housekeeper)...I just can't figure out why!
Anyone here know Omaha well enough to say where the three
addresses are in relation to one another? Around the corner
or across town?
I'll try to plot that out if I can find a map of the right vintage.
Many thanks for all responses.
----
saki@ucla.edu
http://sakionline.net/familypage
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singhals
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
saki wrote:
The SUPPLEMENTAL SHEET may prove to be your best clue.
Supplemental sheets were used to tack on things that you
missed first time through. With luck that leaves the other
two being the house-on-the-corner between two EDs.
Since the woman is in all the preserved family photos, she
could be the deceased wife's sister or Alf's brother's
wife/widow. It would be IMO unusual for more modern
connection (g) to exist so blatently for so many years.
Particularly if Alf were a church-going man, he'd be
uncomfortable setting such an example for his daughters?
AAA ought to have a map of Omaha that might do for a first
cut? If the streets are close-by now, they probably were
then too.
Your problems are always more interesting than mine. (g)
Cheryl
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:19CdnTXqNMrHO1LYnZ2dnUVZ_oupnZ2d@rcn.net:
I don't see a Pe*n in Ward 11 --
The Ancestry image is very light. It could be Ward 11 but it also looks
like Ward 12 to me. Looks like the house is on North 43rd Street. Here's
the entire page:
http://sakionline.net/uploads/alfpet1910w11.jpg
PETERSEN ALFRED 55 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS
6-WD OMAHA 1910 1910 > NEBRASKA > DOUGLAS > 6-WD OMAHA
Series: T624 Roll: 843 Page: 209 3212 Second St.
Page says SUPPLEMENTAL SHEET -- enum Edward A. Shaw
Alf is widowed; parents were born in Denmark; imm 1882
son Henry 25, dau Elizabeth 19, and dau Hulga 17 all born Neb.
Ages for the children are correct, Alfred's is off by two years (he was
53). His immigration year was actually 1878 but it's never right in the
census.
34-yr-old housekeeper named Hanna (or Hunna? or Henna?)
_Anderson_ 34 b Sweden imm 1890 I could be persuaded that
she is widowed.
In the 1900 census (the family was in Ward 9 at that time) Hannah
Anderson is listed as single but has one child (not living with her) and
she's the housekeeper for Alfred's family.
PETERSON ALFRED 53 M W GERM NE DOUGLAS
12-WD OMAHA 1910 Series: T624 Roll: 844 Page: 27 823 North
43rd enum ?? ?? Wolf
widowed; imm 1882
wife Hannah Anderson 37 -m- for 20 yrs 1 child; imm blank;b
Sweden
son Henry Pederson 25 dau Elizabeth 19 dau Hulya 17
This is the 11th/12th ward entry for the image I mentioned above.
Hannah's listed as Alfred's wife here, which I suspect now is wrong.
She's not living with Aldred in the 1920 or 1930 census, who by then was
living with his daughter Elizabeth Hoffmann's family; but Hannah still
appears in family photos from c. 1938.
Hannah's 20-year marriage must have been to someone else. Alfred's wife
Mary died c. 1894; she was the mother of Alfred's children (1885 Nebraska
state census). This could explain the "Wd" for both Hannah and Alfred in
the 1910 census.
I am also unhappy about Alf's marital status... three times
he says he's widowed. Once he could be wrong, twice could
be an enumerator error, but three times by 3 different
enumerators?
I think it points pretty clearly to his being widowed, then. Thanks for
helping me think this through!
If you're on Ancestry, how many women named Hannah Anderson
are there in Douglas Co? (g) Enough to be statistically
comparable with the Alfreds?
There are more Hannahs than Alfreds, but I think these three particular
entries are of the same family (widowed father, grown children,
housekeeper)...I just can't figure out why!
Anyone here know Omaha well enough to say where the three
addresses are in relation to one another? Around the corner
or across town?
I'll try to plot that out if I can find a map of the right vintage.
Many thanks for all responses.
The SUPPLEMENTAL SHEET may prove to be your best clue.
Supplemental sheets were used to tack on things that you
missed first time through. With luck that leaves the other
two being the house-on-the-corner between two EDs.
Since the woman is in all the preserved family photos, she
could be the deceased wife's sister or Alf's brother's
wife/widow. It would be IMO unusual for more modern
connection (g) to exist so blatently for so many years.
Particularly if Alf were a church-going man, he'd be
uncomfortable setting such an example for his daughters?
AAA ought to have a map of Omaha that might do for a first
cut? If the streets are close-by now, they probably were
then too.
Your problems are always more interesting than mine. (g)
Cheryl
-
saki
Re: Nebraska federal census 1910: family enumerated 3 times
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:xYGdnYgZM7MDfUzYnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@rcn.net:
Good point, I'll give that a try.
Last week I ran into (for the first time) the supplemental sheets for the
1885 Nebraska state census. I'm still trying to process the wealth of
info I found.
A number of family mysteries were answered such as:
- The size and type of my gg-grandfather Lorenz Petersen's farm, not to
mention that of his decidedly more successful nephew Alfred---acreage,
livestock, crops, how many foals were born in the previous year, what
farm equipment he had...okay, not very interesting to most folks, but I
don't even have a photo of Lorenz. This is the clearest picture I have of
his life since he emigrated from Schleswig in 1872. And the big surprise:
he was actually making a decent living.
- The name of Lorenz' second wife (first wife died in Belle Prairie and
his Chicago death certificate didn't name spouse) and her country of
origin.
- The name of Alfred Petersen's wife and her country of origin.
- A list of deaths from May 1884 - May 1885 for each county, with the
name of an Elise C. Petersen, age two, in Thayer County, who died of a
brain inflamation. This was my great-grandmother's oldest daughter; the
family lived in Hebron at the time. I know her name only from the family
bible but had no clue how or why she died, and this was before death
certificates were required. The list even gives the name of the attending
doctor. I had no idea that this level of detail was on the supplemental
material for the microfilmed census.
Now re: Hannah Anderson, Alfred's housekeeper:
Worth considering except that she's always listed as Hannah Anderson,
born in Sweden in 1870. Alfred's wife was Mary from Schleswig-Holstein,
who died between 1895-1900. If Hannah were the wife/widow of one of
Alfred's brothers, she'd have been Hannah Petersen, I suspect.
I agree with you. That's what makes her unexplained closeness to the
family a puzzling one...unless she's just a much-beloved housekeeper who
acted as surrogate mum to Alfred's children when he was widowed. It's a
simple explanation but it might be the right one.
I'll give that a try, thanks.
And this isn't even the colorful side of the family.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions.
----
saki@ucla.edu
http://sakionline.net/familypage
news:xYGdnYgZM7MDfUzYnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@rcn.net:
The SUPPLEMENTAL SHEET may prove to be your best clue.
Supplemental sheets were used to tack on things that you
missed first time through. With luck that leaves the other
two being the house-on-the-corner between two EDs.
Good point, I'll give that a try.
Last week I ran into (for the first time) the supplemental sheets for the
1885 Nebraska state census. I'm still trying to process the wealth of
info I found.
A number of family mysteries were answered such as:
- The size and type of my gg-grandfather Lorenz Petersen's farm, not to
mention that of his decidedly more successful nephew Alfred---acreage,
livestock, crops, how many foals were born in the previous year, what
farm equipment he had...okay, not very interesting to most folks, but I
don't even have a photo of Lorenz. This is the clearest picture I have of
his life since he emigrated from Schleswig in 1872. And the big surprise:
he was actually making a decent living.
- The name of Lorenz' second wife (first wife died in Belle Prairie and
his Chicago death certificate didn't name spouse) and her country of
origin.
- The name of Alfred Petersen's wife and her country of origin.
- A list of deaths from May 1884 - May 1885 for each county, with the
name of an Elise C. Petersen, age two, in Thayer County, who died of a
brain inflamation. This was my great-grandmother's oldest daughter; the
family lived in Hebron at the time. I know her name only from the family
bible but had no clue how or why she died, and this was before death
certificates were required. The list even gives the name of the attending
doctor. I had no idea that this level of detail was on the supplemental
material for the microfilmed census.
Now re: Hannah Anderson, Alfred's housekeeper:
Since the woman is in all the preserved family photos, she
could be the deceased wife's sister or Alf's brother's
wife/widow.
Worth considering except that she's always listed as Hannah Anderson,
born in Sweden in 1870. Alfred's wife was Mary from Schleswig-Holstein,
who died between 1895-1900. If Hannah were the wife/widow of one of
Alfred's brothers, she'd have been Hannah Petersen, I suspect.
It would be IMO unusual for more modern
connection (g) to exist so blatently for so many years.
Particularly if Alf were a church-going man, he'd be
uncomfortable setting such an example for his daughters?
I agree with you. That's what makes her unexplained closeness to the
family a puzzling one...unless she's just a much-beloved housekeeper who
acted as surrogate mum to Alfred's children when he was widowed. It's a
simple explanation but it might be the right one.
AAA ought to have a map of Omaha that might do for a first
cut? If the streets are close-by now, they probably were
then too.
I'll give that a try, thanks.
Your problems are always more interesting than mine. (g)
And this isn't even the colorful side of the family.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions.
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