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Legg inn av sylak » 31 jan 2007 01:35:03

This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?

Thanks

Raymond

Allen

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Allen » 31 jan 2007 02:21:03

sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?

Thanks

Raymond



I can't suggest a particular scanner, but a few words of caution: many
of the flatbed scanners that will scan negatives are limited to a few
specific sizes. Make sure that the one you select will handle that size,
which is obsolete. And you might want to remeasure the image area and
see if it isn't 2.25" by 3.25", which was the size used by 120/620
rollfilm cameras. It was a very nice size with its 2:3 aspect ratio, the
same as 35mm, but it fell into disfavor years ago. I happen to have an
old (pre WWII) Miniature Speed Graphic that used 2.25 by 3.25 cut film,
and it has become absolutely impossible to find.
Allen

Gordon Thompson

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Gordon Thompson » 31 jan 2007 04:53:50

Since this is basically an obsolete size of film, few (except really
expensive scanners) that are new now will handle it.

look fir one in a used computer equipment for sale news site close to you.
Someone may well have an old one kicking arround that few people would want.
You do not need the really high resolution scanning that the modern scanners
do, since the negs are big enough that a moderate picksel/inch scanner would
do a good job.

Gordon

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This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that
I wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share
them. From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures
they range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner
that will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can
locate one?

Thanks

Raymond

Hugh Watkins

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 31 jan 2007 10:28:39

sylak wrote:

This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?

Thanks

Raymond

I got an HP Scanjet 4890
top of the line for home users August 2005

extremely high image resolution, scanning photos and documents at
up to 4800 x 9600-dpi and in 48-bit colour.


a built-in transparent materials adapter (TMA), the product can scan up
to sixteen 35 mm slides or 30 negative frames at once, with each scan
taking less than 10 seconds at a time. This makes the Scanjet 4890 Photo
Scanner ideal for preserving old or new photographs in a digital format.

scannable media types
Paper (plain, inkjet, photo, banner), envelopes, labels, index &
greeting cards, 3-D objects, 35-mm slides, negatives, medium format
film, 4" x 5" film, iron-on transfers <<
http://www.hp.com/united-states/consume ... nners.html

it will certainly last longer than this computer

and I am very happy with it and the software which I just updated on line

Hugh W

--

a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/

Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Ron

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Ron » 31 jan 2007 13:01:03

sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?

Thanks

Raymond



CanoScan® 9950F

Maximum 4800 x 9600 dpi resolution

Batch scan thirty 35mm negative frames

AND
Supports professional films up to 4 x 5 in. for both transparencies
and negatives



<http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=120&modelid=10446>


Check specs I think it comes with a template for size film you mention


Ron Lankshear - Sydney Aust (from London- Shepherds Bush & Chiswick)
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~lankshear/

Bruce Remick

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 31 jan 2007 14:07:15

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sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W
negatives that I wish to scan both as a way to archive
these items as well as to share them.

I can't suggest a particular scanner, but a few words of
caution: many of the flatbed scanners that will scan
negatives are limited to a few specific sizes.

AH, but that's easy to overcome. Make your own template,
then scan them manually. I've been scanning a lot of
off-sized negatives on my Epson Perfection 1670.


I have an HP6300C that came with an A-frame mirror thingy for
scanning 35mm slides. Would I need to make something similar
to scan a 4x5 negative?


My Epson has a seperate backlight source, but for oversized
negatives you can use an external source. I set my Epson to
document type: film negative, then I lay the negatives down in
their custom template, place a piece of white plexiglass, and the
illumation source on the flatbed and scan away.

(the template is a card that holds the negative under the light
source, and includes a "window" so the scanner can do an exposure
check before it gets to the object being scanned)

Fortunately, most of my negatives do not exceed 3", so I can use
the built in light source.

I don't know about that HP mirror thingy. Sounds dodgy, to me. I
looked at a lot of scanners before I went with the Epson. It was
the only multi-purpose scanner that had the engineering to really
do justice to film scanning. Visioneer's system was all cardboard
with no place to store, and I vaguely recall that HP's candidate
looked ridiculously complicated for a task I need fairly often.


My HP is about five years old so I would imagine there are more efficient
machines for scanning transparencies now. It was the only mid-price scanner
I could find that did slides at the time. The A-frame accessory thingy is
designed primarily for scanning 35mm slides in their frames. It has a clear
plastic base and mirrors on the sloping inside walls, but will not hold a
piece of film flat in place. Quality is only so-so.

Bruce

Christopher Jahn

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Christopher Jahn » 31 jan 2007 14:27:39

Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote in
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sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W
negatives that I wish to scan both as a way to archive these
items as well as to share them. From what I can make of the
clothing and other items in the pictures they range from the
late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where
I can locate one?

Thanks

Raymond



I can't suggest a particular scanner, but a few words of
caution: many of the flatbed scanners that will scan negatives
are limited to a few specific sizes.

AH, but that's easy to overcome. Make your own template, then
scan them manually. I've been scanning a lot of off-sized
negatives on my Epson Perfection 1670.



--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
http://camera-ephemera.blogspot.com/
Dead puppies aren't much fun.

Bruce Remick

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 31 jan 2007 14:57:11

"Christopher Jahn" <xjahn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote in
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sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W
negatives that I wish to scan both as a way to archive these
items as well as to share them. From what I can make of the
clothing and other items in the pictures they range from the
late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where
I can locate one?

Thanks

Raymond



I can't suggest a particular scanner, but a few words of
caution: many of the flatbed scanners that will scan negatives
are limited to a few specific sizes.

AH, but that's easy to overcome. Make your own template, then
scan them manually. I've been scanning a lot of off-sized
negatives on my Epson Perfection 1670.


I have an HP6300C that came with an A-frame mirror thingy for scanning 35mm

slides. Would I need to make something similar to scan a 4x5 negative?

Bruce

clifto

Re: scanner

Legg inn av clifto » 31 jan 2007 20:42:17

sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?

The first thing I would try would be an ordinary flat-bed scanner; place
negative (correct side down if known) on scanner bed and put a sheet of
white paper over it. Scan. Then use an image viewer program that will
negate an image to turn the scan into a positive.
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ is a free one.

--
All relevant people are pertinent.
All rude people are impertinent.
Therefore, no rude people are relevant.
-- Solomon W. Golomb

Hugh Watkins

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 31 jan 2007 22:45:52

clifto wrote:

sylak wrote:

This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?


The first thing I would try would be an ordinary flat-bed scanner; place
negative (correct side down if known) on scanner bed and put a sheet of
white paper over it. Scan. Then use an image viewer program that will
negate an image to turn the scan into a positive.
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ is a free one.

which will give a poor result


you need an extra light source behind the negative and a lot of pixels

Hugh W

--

a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/

Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Alan

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Alan » 01 feb 2007 01:05:07

I recently purchased an Epson Perfection 4490 Flatbed that has a
scanning backlite for doing slides and negatives.It seems to do a
terrific job.I recently scanned almost 600 slides.It has plastic
guides for centering the common size slides and film but you could
probably use a home made cardboard guide and custom settings for your
size.The width of the actual backlit area is 3.25" wide.
cost is around 200.00 US
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:35:03 -0500, "sylak" <sylak@comcast.net> wrote:

This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?

Thanks

Raymond

Christopher Jahn

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Christopher Jahn » 01 feb 2007 01:18:26

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"Christopher Jahn" <xjahn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote in
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sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W
negatives that I wish to scan both as a way to archive
these items as well as to share them.

I can't suggest a particular scanner, but a few words of
caution: many of the flatbed scanners that will scan
negatives are limited to a few specific sizes.

AH, but that's easy to overcome. Make your own template,
then scan them manually. I've been scanning a lot of
off-sized negatives on my Epson Perfection 1670.


I have an HP6300C that came with an A-frame mirror thingy for
scanning 35mm slides. Would I need to make something similar
to scan a 4x5 negative?


My Epson has a seperate backlight source, but for oversized
negatives you can use an external source. I set my Epson to
document type: film negative, then I lay the negatives down in
their custom template, place a piece of white plexiglass, and the
illumation source on the flatbed and scan away.

(the template is a card that holds the negative under the light
source, and includes a "window" so the scanner can do an exposure
check before it gets to the object being scanned)

Fortunately, most of my negatives do not exceed 3", so I can use
the built in light source.

I don't know about that HP mirror thingy. Sounds dodgy, to me. I
looked at a lot of scanners before I went with the Epson. It was
the only multi-purpose scanner that had the engineering to really
do justice to film scanning. Visioneer's system was all cardboard
with no place to store, and I vaguely recall that HP's candidate
looked ridiculously complicated for a task I need fairly often.


--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
http://camera-ephemera.blogspot.com/
Hey, go buy a plane ticket to another state of mind, okay?

Christopher Jahn

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Christopher Jahn » 01 feb 2007 04:02:07

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"Christopher Jahn" <xjahn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Christopher Jahn" <xjahn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote in
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sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5"
B&W negatives that I wish to scan both as a way to
archive these items as well as to share them.

I can't suggest a particular scanner, but a few words of
caution: many of the flatbed scanners that will scan
negatives are limited to a few specific sizes.

AH, but that's easy to overcome. Make your own template,
then scan them manually. I've been scanning a lot of
off-sized negatives on my Epson Perfection 1670.


I have an HP6300C that came with an A-frame mirror thingy
for scanning 35mm slides. Would I need to make something
similar to scan a 4x5 negative?


My Epson has a seperate backlight source, but for oversized
negatives you can use an external source. I set my Epson to
document type: film negative, then I lay the negatives down
in their custom template, place a piece of white plexiglass,
and the illumation source on the flatbed and scan away.

(the template is a card that holds the negative under the
light source, and includes a "window" so the scanner can do
an exposure check before it gets to the object being scanned)

Fortunately, most of my negatives do not exceed 3", so I can
use the built in light source.

I don't know about that HP mirror thingy. Sounds dodgy, to
me. I looked at a lot of scanners before I went with the
Epson. It was the only multi-purpose scanner that had the
engineering to really do justice to film scanning.
Visioneer's system was all cardboard with no place to store,
and I vaguely recall that HP's candidate looked ridiculously
complicated for a task I need fairly often.


My HP is about five years old so I would imagine there are
more efficient machines for scanning transparencies now. It
was the only mid-price scanner I could find that did slides at
the time. The A-frame accessory thingy is designed primarily
for scanning 35mm slides in their frames. It has a clear
plastic base and mirrors on the sloping inside walls, but will
not hold a piece of film flat in place. Quality is only
so-so.

When you're ready to upgrade, look at the Epson Perfection line.
I have the 1670, and that's about four years old, but we have a
3270 at the office; higher resolution, holds more slides. The
template for the transperencies stores inside the lid, very
slick.


--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
http://camera-ephemera.blogspot.com/
Beyond good and evil lies North Dakota.

Christopher Jahn

Re: scanner

Legg inn av Christopher Jahn » 01 feb 2007 04:04:36

Alan <Notspecified@noclue.com> wrote in
news:8ca2s2h21pjj6qjot46q7cbdqf6785qn46@4ax.com:

I recently purchased an Epson Perfection 4490 Flatbed that has
a scanning backlite for doing slides and negatives.It seems to
do a terrific job.I recently scanned almost 600 slides.It has
plastic guides for centering the common size slides and film
but you could probably use a home made cardboard guide and
custom settings for your size.

That's what I do for scanning negatives from those old Brownie
cameras on my Epson Perfection 1670. Very smart unit. I believe I
paid about $140 for it, new.





--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
http://camera-ephemera.blogspot.com/
Biggest security gap - an open mouth.

jj206

Re: scanner

Legg inn av jj206 » 02 feb 2007 06:36:30

sylak wrote:
This is for the techy folks. I have over 300 2.5"x 3.5" B&W negatives that I
wish to scan both as a way to archive these items as well as to share them.
From what I can make of the clothing and other items in the pictures they
range from the late 20s into the 50s. Can anyone recommend a scanner that
will scan this size negative with info on how much and where I can locate
one?

Thanks
Raymond


Here is an article about it.

http://photography.about.com/cs/adamsan ... n_Negs.htm

Jonathan

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