US Civil war
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Al Hastings
US Civil war
HI,
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you can offer
some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his son orphan (born
around 1861-2). I'm current looking through civil war
pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their state -usually- in
their infantry/ calvery name?
such as born in pennsylvania, he would have been in # Pennsylvania
Inf.?
any help would greatly be appriciated!
-A
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you can offer
some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his son orphan (born
around 1861-2). I'm current looking through civil war
pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their state -usually- in
their infantry/ calvery name?
such as born in pennsylvania, he would have been in # Pennsylvania
Inf.?
any help would greatly be appriciated!
-A
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Christopher Jahn
Re: US Civil war
"Al Hastings" <magic4you@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1168950344.337186.275110@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Yes.
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The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and three
hundred sixty-two admonishments to heterosexuals.
news:1168950344.337186.275110@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
HI,
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you
can offer some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his
son orphan (born around 1861-2). I'm current looking through
civil war pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their
state -usually- in their infantry/ calvery name?
Yes.
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
http://jahnstrosity.blogspot.com/
The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and three
hundred sixty-two admonishments to heterosexuals.
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singhals
Re: US Civil war
Al Hastings wrote:
No. My ancestors were born in Virginia, Maryland, and
Illinois. The one born in Illinois was in the 7th Va Cav.
So was one of the ones born in Maryland. One of the
Virginia-born was in the 10th WV Inf. The rest were all in
various VA units.
ONLY the Federals who went in because they were drafted can
be counted on to be in a unit from their state-of-residence.
OTOH, the war didn't begin until 1861 so I must be
not-seeing what you meant by served and left his son orphan...
And, when you're looking, don't miss the Artillery units.
Cheryl
HI,
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you can offer
some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his son orphan (born
around 1861-2). I'm current looking through civil war
pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their state -usually- in
their infantry/ calvery name?
such as born in pennsylvania, he would have been in # Pennsylvania
Inf.?
any help would greatly be appriciated!
No. My ancestors were born in Virginia, Maryland, and
Illinois. The one born in Illinois was in the 7th Va Cav.
So was one of the ones born in Maryland. One of the
Virginia-born was in the 10th WV Inf. The rest were all in
various VA units.
ONLY the Federals who went in because they were drafted can
be counted on to be in a unit from their state-of-residence.
OTOH, the war didn't begin until 1861 so I must be
not-seeing what you meant by served and left his son orphan...
And, when you're looking, don't miss the Artillery units.
Cheryl
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sharonf
Re: US Civil war
Al Hastings wrote:
listed wrong. The uncle I was searching for was even listed under the
wrong state. Here are a couple of places to try:
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/
http://hometown.aol.com/d2hober/civilwar.htm
http://www.cyndislist.com/cw.htm
Sharon
HI,
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you can offer
some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his son orphan (born
around 1861-2). I'm current looking through civil war
pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their state -usually- in
their infantry/ calvery name?
such as born in pennsylvania, he would have been in # Pennsylvania
Inf.?
any help would greatly be appriciated!
-A
When researching my family I discovered that some of the soldiers were
listed wrong. The uncle I was searching for was even listed under the
wrong state. Here are a couple of places to try:
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/
http://hometown.aol.com/d2hober/civilwar.htm
http://www.cyndislist.com/cw.htm
Sharon
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MikeS
Re: US Civil war
"Al Hastings" <magic4you@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168950344.337186.275110@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Al,
Post his name and let the group try and help locate the record or send the
name to me off list and I will give it a go csaunders65@gmail.com. .
Mike
news:1168950344.337186.275110@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you can offer
some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his son orphan (born
around 1861-2). I'm current looking through civil war
pension/enlistment lists,
Al,
Post his name and let the group try and help locate the record or send the
name to me off list and I will give it a go csaunders65@gmail.com. .
Mike
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Al Hastings
Re: US Civil war
MikeS wrote:
Mike and everyone,
thank you very much for the links, hopefully it will give me some more
areas to look for my GGG grandfather, William Kelly Hastings, once I
get past this huge road block I maybe be able to get back on track
again:
1861 Civil War Starts
1862 Jul 9th Born William Kelly Hastings, Allegheny COunty Pennsylvania
1870 Census William is with Mother? Susan Campbell (d.1880-1900?) and
Husband Alex Hamilton(b 1831, immigrated 1840)
1880 Census William is with previous in Pittsburgh, Name appears as
Hamilton
1865 Civil War Ends
1886 Sep 14th (Oct 16th?-stated) Married Catherine Bell 14 Sep 1886 in
Noblestown, PA Susan Campbell present at cermony.
1888 Jun 21st John Alexander Hastings (Son) Born
1890 National Census Destroyed
1891 May Jane Hastings (Daughter) Born
1892 WKH Jr. (son) Born
Thank you everyone again!!!
-A
Post his name and let the group try and help locate the record or send the
name to me off list and I will give it a go csaunders65@gmail.com. .
Mike and everyone,
thank you very much for the links, hopefully it will give me some more
areas to look for my GGG grandfather, William Kelly Hastings, once I
get past this huge road block I maybe be able to get back on track
again:
1861 Civil War Starts
1862 Jul 9th Born William Kelly Hastings, Allegheny COunty Pennsylvania
1870 Census William is with Mother? Susan Campbell (d.1880-1900?) and
Husband Alex Hamilton(b 1831, immigrated 1840)
1880 Census William is with previous in Pittsburgh, Name appears as
Hamilton
1865 Civil War Ends
1886 Sep 14th (Oct 16th?-stated) Married Catherine Bell 14 Sep 1886 in
Noblestown, PA Susan Campbell present at cermony.
1888 Jun 21st John Alexander Hastings (Son) Born
1890 National Census Destroyed
1891 May Jane Hastings (Daughter) Born
1892 WKH Jr. (son) Born
Thank you everyone again!!!
-A
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MikeS
Re: US Civil war
"Al Hastings" <magic4you@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168991977.507876.38240@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
You will find a William K. Hastings who served in the civil war at this
site. Perhaps this is your GGG grandfather -
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.cfm
Mike
news:1168991977.507876.38240@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
MikeS wrote:
Post his name and let the group try and help locate the record or send
the
name to me off list and I will give it a go csaunders65@gmail.com. .
Mike and everyone,
thank you very much for the links, hopefully it will give me some more
areas to look for my GGG grandfather, William Kelly Hastings, once I
get past this huge road block I maybe be able to get back on track
again:
You will find a William K. Hastings who served in the civil war at this
site. Perhaps this is your GGG grandfather -
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.cfm
Mike
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Christopher Jahn
Re: US Civil war
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:iomdna8-ef5WaDHYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@rcn.net:
Cheryl, read his post more carefully; he asked if a person was
_USUALLY_ in the militia for the state he lived in, and the
answer to THAT question is "YES."
Your ancestors' service records are unique due to where your
ancestors lived versus who they fought for.
If a Virginian wanted to fight for the Union, he couldn't do it
in a Virginia unit - hence the WV enlistment. Similarly, a
Maryland residend couldn't join up to FIGHT the Union in a
Maryland unit, so they'd have joined a Virginia unit. In any
case, they joined the units CLOSEST to their homes.
For the most part and with exceptions, people joined units from
their home states.
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
http://jahnstrosity.blogspot.com/
Time is a plaything for children and fools.
news:iomdna8-ef5WaDHYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@rcn.net:
Al Hastings wrote:
HI,
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you
can offer some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his
son orphan (born around 1861-2). I'm current looking through
civil war pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their
state -usually- in their infantry/ calvery name?
such as born in pennsylvania, he would have been in #
Pennsylvania Inf.?
No
Cheryl, read his post more carefully; he asked if a person was
_USUALLY_ in the militia for the state he lived in, and the
answer to THAT question is "YES."
Your ancestors' service records are unique due to where your
ancestors lived versus who they fought for.
If a Virginian wanted to fight for the Union, he couldn't do it
in a Virginia unit - hence the WV enlistment. Similarly, a
Maryland residend couldn't join up to FIGHT the Union in a
Maryland unit, so they'd have joined a Virginia unit. In any
case, they joined the units CLOSEST to their homes.
For the most part and with exceptions, people joined units from
their home states.
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html
http://jahnstrosity.blogspot.com/
Time is a plaything for children and fools.
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singhals
Re: US Civil war
Christopher Jahn wrote:
Thank you, Christopher.
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:iomdna8-ef5WaDHYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@rcn.net:
Al Hastings wrote:
HI,
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you
can offer some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his
son orphan (born around 1861-2). I'm current looking through
civil war pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their
state -usually- in their infantry/ calvery name?
such as born in pennsylvania, he would have been in #
Pennsylvania Inf.?
No
Cheryl, read his post more carefully; he asked if a person was
_USUALLY_ in the militia for the state he lived in, and the
answer to THAT question is "YES."
Your ancestors' service records are unique due to where your
ancestors lived versus who they fought for.
If a Virginian wanted to fight for the Union, he couldn't do it
in a Virginia unit - hence the WV enlistment. Similarly, a
Maryland residend couldn't join up to FIGHT the Union in a
Maryland unit, so they'd have joined a Virginia unit. In any
case, they joined the units CLOSEST to their homes.
For the most part and with exceptions, people joined units from
their home states.
Thank you, Christopher.
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ecunningham
Re: US Civil war
Al Hastings wrote:
AL: You didn't say you had checked the PA Digital Archives. There are
at least a dozen with that name.
or a variation thereof.
http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/ ... ID=17&FL=H
ecunningham@att.net
thank you very much for the links, hopefully it will give me some more
areas to look for my GGG grandfather, William Kelly Hastings, once I
get past this huge road block I maybe be able to get back on track
again:
AL: You didn't say you had checked the PA Digital Archives. There are
at least a dozen with that name.
or a variation thereof.
http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/ ... ID=17&FL=H
ecunningham@att.net
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Huntersglenn
Re: US Civil war
Christopher Jahn wrote:
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:iomdna8-ef5WaDHYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@rcn.net:
Al Hastings wrote:
HI,
I'm doing geneaology and hit a wall, I was wondering if you
can offer some help. My GGG Grandfather served and left his
son orphan (born around 1861-2). I'm current looking through
civil war pension/enlistment lists, Is everyone from their
state -usually- in their infantry/ calvery name?
such as born in pennsylvania, he would have been in #
Pennsylvania Inf.?
No
Cheryl, read his post more carefully; he asked if a person was
_USUALLY_ in the militia for the state he lived in, and the
answer to THAT question is "YES."
Your ancestors' service records are unique due to where your
ancestors lived versus who they fought for.
-
Huntersglenn
Re: US Civil war
Christopher Jahn wrote:
(ignore my other post - I hit send instead of cancel)
The OP asked "Is everyone from their state -usually- in their infantry/
calvery name?" which leaves the statement open to either interpretation
(of was EVERYONE from that state in the same units or if a person from
that state was usually in a state unit - I interpreted it the same as
Cheryl), even with the emphasis on 'usually'. A person from
Pennsylvania who lived near the NY line could (and some did) cross the
state line and join a NY regiment, and vice versa, because the regiment
or unit in that other state WAS the one closest to their home.
As for what you wrote about people in southern states not being able to
join Union regiments, that's not totally true. Just because a state was
in the Confederacy, that did not mean that there were only Confederate
units in it. For instance, there were sections of northeastern North
Carolina where you had just as many people fighting in Union regiments
as you did Confederate regiments, and they joined up in North Carolina
(this happened after the Union had a presence in NC, but it was in 1862
that the first NC troops were formed, which was still quite early in the
war. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ncuv/intro.htm)
I have one ancestor who was first enlisted in Company C, 52nd Regiment,
NC, and then he deserted and enlisted with the 1st North Carolina Union
Volunteers - all in 1862. And Virginians who wished to fight for the
Union had ample opportunities to join up with the Army of the Potomac on
Virginia soil - it was all a matter of timing. Depending on troop
acitivity and occupations, it's very difficult to give absolutes about
what regiments or units a person in the south could join.
Cathy
Cheryl, read his post more carefully; he asked if a person was
_USUALLY_ in the militia for the state he lived in, and the
answer to THAT question is "YES."
Your ancestors' service records are unique due to where your
ancestors lived versus who they fought for.
If a Virginian wanted to fight for the Union, he couldn't do it
in a Virginia unit - hence the WV enlistment. Similarly, a
Maryland residend couldn't join up to FIGHT the Union in a
Maryland unit, so they'd have joined a Virginia unit. In any
case, they joined the units CLOSEST to their homes.
For the most part and with exceptions, people joined units from
their home states.
(ignore my other post - I hit send instead of cancel)
The OP asked "Is everyone from their state -usually- in their infantry/
calvery name?" which leaves the statement open to either interpretation
(of was EVERYONE from that state in the same units or if a person from
that state was usually in a state unit - I interpreted it the same as
Cheryl), even with the emphasis on 'usually'. A person from
Pennsylvania who lived near the NY line could (and some did) cross the
state line and join a NY regiment, and vice versa, because the regiment
or unit in that other state WAS the one closest to their home.
As for what you wrote about people in southern states not being able to
join Union regiments, that's not totally true. Just because a state was
in the Confederacy, that did not mean that there were only Confederate
units in it. For instance, there were sections of northeastern North
Carolina where you had just as many people fighting in Union regiments
as you did Confederate regiments, and they joined up in North Carolina
(this happened after the Union had a presence in NC, but it was in 1862
that the first NC troops were formed, which was still quite early in the
war. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ncuv/intro.htm)
I have one ancestor who was first enlisted in Company C, 52nd Regiment,
NC, and then he deserted and enlisted with the 1st North Carolina Union
Volunteers - all in 1862. And Virginians who wished to fight for the
Union had ample opportunities to join up with the Army of the Potomac on
Virginia soil - it was all a matter of timing. Depending on troop
acitivity and occupations, it's very difficult to give absolutes about
what regiments or units a person in the south could join.
Cathy
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Huntersglenn
Re: US Civil war
Is William Kelly Hastings the name of the soldier as well as the name of
the son born in 1862?
Al Hastings wrote:
the son born in 1862?
Al Hastings wrote:
MikeS wrote:
Post his name and let the group try and help locate the record or send the
name to me off list and I will give it a go csaunders65@gmail.com. .
Mike and everyone,
thank you very much for the links, hopefully it will give me some more
areas to look for my GGG grandfather, William Kelly Hastings, once I
get past this huge road block I maybe be able to get back on track
again:
1861 Civil War Starts
1862 Jul 9th Born William Kelly Hastings, Allegheny COunty Pennsylvania
1870 Census William is with Mother? Susan Campbell (d.1880-1900?) and
Husband Alex Hamilton(b 1831, immigrated 1840)
1880 Census William is with previous in Pittsburgh, Name appears as
Hamilton
1865 Civil War Ends
1886 Sep 14th (Oct 16th?-stated) Married Catherine Bell 14 Sep 1886 in
Noblestown, PA Susan Campbell present at cermony.
1888 Jun 21st John Alexander Hastings (Son) Born
1890 National Census Destroyed
1891 May Jane Hastings (Daughter) Born
1892 WKH Jr. (son) Born
Thank you everyone again!!!
-A
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T.M. Sommers
Re: US Civil war
Christopher Jahn wrote:
There were several Maryland units in the Confederate army. See:
http://www.2ndmdinfantryus.org/cssources.html
--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB
Similarly, a
Maryland residend couldn't join up to FIGHT the Union in a
Maryland unit, so they'd have joined a Virginia unit.
There were several Maryland units in the Confederate army. See:
http://www.2ndmdinfantryus.org/cssources.html
--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB