Help reading birth location in 1850 census

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Roland

Help reading birth location in 1850 census

Legg inn av Roland » 31 des 2006 13:49:40

The birthplace for Susannah Boileau(age 12 living in Cincinnati, Hamilton
Co., Ohio in 1850). Ancestry has her indexed as "Susannah Barleau" and born
in Pennsylvania but the image looks more like it says "LA(louisiana)".

Here is an image of a few of the other locations on the same page

http://home.earthlink.net/~abhosk/genea ... cation.gif

The enumerator puts a little apostrophe between the letters in the birth
location. Removing the apostrophe for hers makes the first letter look more
like an "I" and could also be Iowa.

Opinions?

Roland

singhals

Re: Help reading birth location in 1850 census

Legg inn av singhals » 31 des 2006 16:48:54

Roland wrote:

The birthplace for Susannah Boileau(age 12 living in Cincinnati, Hamilton
Co., Ohio in 1850). Ancestry has her indexed as "Susannah Barleau" and born
in Pennsylvania but the image looks more like it says "LA(louisiana)".

Here is an image of a few of the other locations on the same page

http://home.earthlink.net/~abhosk/genea ... cation.gif

The enumerator puts a little apostrophe between the letters in the birth
location. Removing the apostrophe for hers makes the first letter look more
like an "I" and could also be Iowa.

Opinions?

Roland




Definitely not Pennsylvania. The other P are more ornate
where the bulge and the vertical intersect.

I'd be surprised if it were Iowa -- that stroke between the
vertical and the a is atypical of an I of the 1850s. IF it
were either an I or a J the stroke should lean downward if
it crossed the vertical at all. What do his other I and J
look like?

There isn't a state that has ever been abbreviated as Da,
which is what it reminds me of, so by process of
elimination: Louisiana.

Boileau is far more likely to be Louisiana than Iowa -- ANY
word ending in leau is more likely to be Louisiana than Iowa
FTM.

Cheryl

clifto

Re: Help reading birth location in 1850 census

Legg inn av clifto » 31 des 2006 18:26:57

singhals wrote:
Roland wrote:
http://home.earthlink.net/~abhosk/genea ... cation.gif

The enumerator puts a little apostrophe between the letters in the birth
location. Removing the apostrophe for hers makes the first letter look more
like an "I" and could also be Iowa.

Definitely not Pennsylvania. The other P are more ornate
where the bulge and the vertical intersect.

I'd be surprised if it were Iowa -- that stroke between the
vertical and the a is atypical of an I of the 1850s. IF it
were either an I or a J the stroke should lean downward if
it crossed the vertical at all. What do his other I and J
look like?

I'm looking at his L and seeing it comes out to the right, up, then down
again. The letter in question comes out, down, then up again. He also
starts the L with a grand sweep, almost a semicircle, which isn't
apparent in the mystery letter. I'm thinking it's an I or J myself and
like you, want to see other I's and J's from this census taker.

--
Nazi: a person who is winning an argument with a liberal.

Huntersglenn

Re: Help reading birth location in 1850 census

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 31 des 2006 19:44:33

Given that the Elijah who appears to be her brother was born in
Kentucky, I'd say that the birth place is totally incorrect and should
be KY for her. I can't see any reason why the family would go from
Kentucky to Louisiana and then back north to Ohio. It would make more
sense to go into Ohio from Kentucky, especially if the family was living
in northern Kentucky (and in the early 1800s, there were some Boileaus
in nothern Kentucky). So, is Susannah a child or a neice of the head of
household? In the 1840 Federal Census for Ohio, there's an Elijah Belue
living in Meiggs County. I can't find an Elijah Boileau by any spelling
in Kentucky or Louisiana in that census year. The Elijah Belue in
Meiggs County does have a female under the age of 5 in his household,
which would fit with Susannah's age.

However, to me it looks more as if the enumerator was thinking that she
was also born in Virginia, as was the farm worker listed above her - it
looks a lot more like some of the other 'VA' that the enumerator wrote
than it does like 'LA'. Have you found Susannah in any later census years?

Cathy

Roland wrote:
The birthplace for Susannah Boileau(age 12 living in Cincinnati, Hamilton
Co., Ohio in 1850). Ancestry has her indexed as "Susannah Barleau" and born
in Pennsylvania but the image looks more like it says "LA(louisiana)".

Here is an image of a few of the other locations on the same page

http://home.earthlink.net/~abhosk/genea ... cation.gif

The enumerator puts a little apostrophe between the letters in the birth
location. Removing the apostrophe for hers makes the first letter look more
like an "I" and could also be Iowa.

Opinions?

Roland


Ron Head

Re: Help reading birth location in 1850 census

Legg inn av Ron Head » 31 des 2006 21:04:09

The enumerator puts a little apostrophe between the letters in the birth
location. Removing the apostrophe for hers makes the first letter look
more
like an "I" and could also be Iowa.

Opinions?

Roland

Compare Susannah's birthplace to the other Iowa birthplaces in the same
county & township, and I think you'll agree that "Iowa" is BY FAR the best
candidate for this listing of her birthplace. Look, for example, at Isaac
H. ATKINSON (Ancesty's image #306), and especially at Clarissa ACKLEY (image
#128).

In 1860, the birthplace of "Susan" (Mrs. James SHARP, next to a BOILEAU
family) is listed as Ohio. There is also a James SHARP of the right age and
birthplace in 1870 Cincinnati, but he is newly married to a woman named Mary
from Baden--if this is the same James SHARP, Susannah may have died between
1860 and 1870.

Doug Corbin

Re: Help reading birth location in 1850 census

Legg inn av Doug Corbin » 31 des 2006 23:04:26

It looks like IA to me. But I think that the IA most likely stands for
Indiana instead of Iowa. I looked her up in the 1860 census and her
birthplace is given as Ohio. She married James Sharp in 1859 in Hamilton
Co,OH and they are there in the 1860 census.

Doug

"Roland" wrote in message
news:ElOlh.9113$X72.6187@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
The birthplace for Susannah Boileau(age 12 living in Cincinnati, Hamilton
Co., Ohio in 1850). Ancestry has her indexed as "Susannah Barleau" and
born
in Pennsylvania but the image looks more like it says "LA(louisiana)".

Here is an image of a few of the other locations on the same page

http://home.earthlink.net/~abhosk/genea ... cation.gif

The enumerator puts a little apostrophe between the letters in the birth
location. Removing the apostrophe for hers makes the first letter look
more
like an "I" and could also be Iowa.

Opinions?

Roland


Roland

Re: Help reading birth location in 1850 census

Legg inn av Roland » 03 jan 2007 14:07:23

"Huntersglenn" <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in message
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Given that the Elijah who appears to be her brother was born in
Kentucky, I'd say that the birth place is totally incorrect and should
be KY for her. I can't see any reason why the family would go from
Kentucky to Louisiana and then back north to Ohio. It would make more
sense to go into Ohio from Kentucky, especially if the family was living
in northern Kentucky (and in the early 1800s, there were some Boileaus
in nothern Kentucky). So, is Susannah a child or a neice of the head of
household? In the 1840 Federal Census for Ohio, there's an Elijah Belue
living in Meiggs County. I can't find an Elijah Boileau by any spelling
in Kentucky or Louisiana in that census year. The Elijah Belue in
Meiggs County does have a female under the age of 5 in his household,
which would fit with Susannah's age.

However, to me it looks more as if the enumerator was thinking that she
was also born in Virginia, as was the farm worker listed above her - it
looks a lot more like some of the other 'VA' that the enumerator wrote
than it does like 'LA'. Have you found Susannah in any later census
years?

Cathy


Thanks to everyone for the replys. I think the birthplace is an error.
Susan(b. 1838) says in 1860 and 1870 she was born in Ohio(I lose her after
1870). Her brother Elijah(b. 1835) claims Kentucky in 4 of 5 census'. The
Fisk family living next to Elijah and Ann Boileau in 1850 is Ann's son from
her first marriage and he was married in Cincinnati in 1842. Ann lives next
to or with her son Valorus Fisk in every census(including the 1885 South
Dakota Territory census). I just cant find Elijah and Ann in 1840 and
thought that maybe that birthplace for Susan might be a clue. Although I
think they were in Cincinnati in 1840 and Valorus was married there in 1842
they must have done a good job of hiding because they don't show up in the
census and they don't appear in the Cincinnati City Directories intil 1849.

As for the spelling variations for Boileau take a look at the top of this
page. And that is not all of them(they don't even have Boileau listed
although it is found on a couple of their pages).
http://www.myplanet.net/gedmnds1/ballew ... merica.htm

It has been very hard finding these characters and more times than not I
have to use a first name and scroll through the "B's". I found that to often
the "u" and "w" has been transcribed as an "n" so you get results like
Boilean or Belen. Frustrating.

Roland

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