Hello -- My grandfather was adopted as a very young child and my family has
no information on his birth mother or her family. I'd like to find out
more, but I'm not sure how. He was born and adopted near Perry, Ohio
sometime around 1920-1921, and as the family were devout Catholics, we
suspect it may have been a Church-assisted adoption, either through a parish
or family assistance organization. Can anyone here give me an idea of where
to start? I assume that since all parties are deceased, it won't be a
problem getting access to records (if they exist). Thanks in advance for
any information.
Rhonda
Richmond, VA
--
Basic human psychology is one of my subroutines.
Family genealogy searches + adoption
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Liz_in_Calgary
Re: Family genealogy searches + adoption
Oh boy... churches in the city may be your only hope of
finding records. I have found that their archivists are
very helpful.
But, I seem to remember a movie about adoptions during this
time - something about a woman setting up a home for unwed
mothers and then selling the babies, without the mothers
consent or even knowledge that they were doing this sort of
thing. (little fuzzy on the actual story).
take care
Liz
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:45:22 GMT, in alt.genealogy "Natty
Dread" <rthissen.YO@ADRIAN.verizon.net> wrote :
finding records. I have found that their archivists are
very helpful.
But, I seem to remember a movie about adoptions during this
time - something about a woman setting up a home for unwed
mothers and then selling the babies, without the mothers
consent or even knowledge that they were doing this sort of
thing. (little fuzzy on the actual story).
take care
Liz
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:45:22 GMT, in alt.genealogy "Natty
Dread" <rthissen.YO@ADRIAN.verizon.net> wrote :
Hello -- My grandfather was adopted as a very young child and my family has
no information on his birth mother or her family. I'd like to find out
more, but I'm not sure how. He was born and adopted near Perry, Ohio
sometime around 1920-1921, and as the family were devout Catholics, we
suspect it may have been a Church-assisted adoption, either through a parish
or family assistance organization. Can anyone here give me an idea of where
to start? I assume that since all parties are deceased, it won't be a
problem getting access to records (if they exist). Thanks in advance for
any information.
Rhonda
Richmond, VA
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Alida Spry
Re: Family genealogy searches + adoption
"Liz_in_Calgary" <misnomer@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:3vbam2taag485dd3lf2snijpeo0v6t1l0h@4ax.com...
Rhonda,
I agree, this may not even be a legal adoption or it may have been done with consent but just not actually through any legal channels. Some people would "adopt" children (orphans of deceased family members for example) without ever going through the formal adoption process (whatever that may have entailed in that time period).
I would suggest that you contact the county probate court and see if there is perhaps some file on him first. Then as Liz suggested, try the Catholic churches in the area and contact the appropriate branch of Catholic Charities (which is a catholic adoption agency). I'm familiar with the CC for Lucas County (Toledo) but I don't know anyone at the Perry office.
Here's their info:
PERRY COUNTY PROBATE COURT
THE HONORABLE LUANN COOPERRIDER
105 N MAIN ST
PO BOX 167
NEW LEXINGTON OH 43764 0167
PHONE #: 740-342-1493
HOURS OF OPERATION: 8:30 AM - 4:30 PM M-F
You might also want to check out this website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/mperry.html
SUMMARY OF OHIO LAW REGARDING ACCESS TO BIRTHPARENT INFORMATION & ADOPTION RECORDS
In Ohio, there are different access systems for adopted persons, depending on the year the adoption occurred.
Open access to birthparent identifying information for those adoptions finalized prior to January 1, 1964: Adopted persons who adoptions were decreed prior to January 1, 1964, original birth certificates, adoption papers, and documents pertaining to original birth records are available (ORC 370.5 12, effective March 19, 1985). These persons can receive their original birth certificate through the Ohio Department of Health. There is a $20.00 charge to access this information, and you must also provide two pieces of identification and a notarized affidafit. Contact: Vital Statistics, Ohio Department of Health at (614) 644-5635 or on the web at: http://www.odj.state.oh.us/Birth/adopt.htm Closed access to birthparent identifying information for those adoptions finalized between January 1, 1964 and September 18, 1996: Birth and adoption records in and following 1964 are "sealed" to the adopted person unless mutual consent of the birthparent/-sibling and adult adopted persons (age 21 or older) occurs through the State Adoption Registry (ORC 3107.41, effective 1985).
That info is taken from: http://e-magazine.adoption.com/articles ... ecords.php
I also suggest that you join some adoption search and support groups who have more experience in this type of thing. There are two that I belong to right now on Yahoo Groups. One is called Adoption Latte and the other Angels Blessing Search and Support. You can post your info and they will either volunteer to help you with the search themselves or at least give you suggestions and direct you how to proceed on your own.
Here are the links:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdoptionLatte/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Angels-Bl ... h-Support/
One more thing that every adoptee or birth parent should do is register with ISRR. It's free. You can find it here: http://www.isrr.net/about_isrr.shtml In your case, it probably is unlikely that anyone from the birth family is registered but of course there is the outside chance that some other member of the birth family knows about your grandfather and is looking for him. You never know.
I hope this info helps you in some way. If you care to emai lme directly offlist, I would be happy to review what info you have and make suggestions myself. I have helped with a few adoption searches over the years. Right now I'm working on my husband's but his adoption took place in Ohio during the years that the records are sealed so it's a bit more difficult than your situation in that regard. I know he has a file but we can't see it, your grandfather might not have a file but if he does, he can see it.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Alida a_spry at yahoo dot com
Oh boy... churches in the city may be your only hope of
finding records. I have found that their archivists are
very helpful.
But, I seem to remember a movie about adoptions during this
time - something about a woman setting up a home for unwed
mothers and then selling the babies, without the mothers
consent or even knowledge that they were doing this sort of
thing. (little fuzzy on the actual story).
take care
Liz
Rhonda,
I agree, this may not even be a legal adoption or it may have been done with consent but just not actually through any legal channels. Some people would "adopt" children (orphans of deceased family members for example) without ever going through the formal adoption process (whatever that may have entailed in that time period).
I would suggest that you contact the county probate court and see if there is perhaps some file on him first. Then as Liz suggested, try the Catholic churches in the area and contact the appropriate branch of Catholic Charities (which is a catholic adoption agency). I'm familiar with the CC for Lucas County (Toledo) but I don't know anyone at the Perry office.
Here's their info:
PERRY COUNTY PROBATE COURT
THE HONORABLE LUANN COOPERRIDER
105 N MAIN ST
PO BOX 167
NEW LEXINGTON OH 43764 0167
PHONE #: 740-342-1493
HOURS OF OPERATION: 8:30 AM - 4:30 PM M-F
You might also want to check out this website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/mperry.html
SUMMARY OF OHIO LAW REGARDING ACCESS TO BIRTHPARENT INFORMATION & ADOPTION RECORDS
In Ohio, there are different access systems for adopted persons, depending on the year the adoption occurred.
Open access to birthparent identifying information for those adoptions finalized prior to January 1, 1964: Adopted persons who adoptions were decreed prior to January 1, 1964, original birth certificates, adoption papers, and documents pertaining to original birth records are available (ORC 370.5 12, effective March 19, 1985). These persons can receive their original birth certificate through the Ohio Department of Health. There is a $20.00 charge to access this information, and you must also provide two pieces of identification and a notarized affidafit. Contact: Vital Statistics, Ohio Department of Health at (614) 644-5635 or on the web at: http://www.odj.state.oh.us/Birth/adopt.htm Closed access to birthparent identifying information for those adoptions finalized between January 1, 1964 and September 18, 1996: Birth and adoption records in and following 1964 are "sealed" to the adopted person unless mutual consent of the birthparent/-sibling and adult adopted persons (age 21 or older) occurs through the State Adoption Registry (ORC 3107.41, effective 1985).
That info is taken from: http://e-magazine.adoption.com/articles ... ecords.php
I also suggest that you join some adoption search and support groups who have more experience in this type of thing. There are two that I belong to right now on Yahoo Groups. One is called Adoption Latte and the other Angels Blessing Search and Support. You can post your info and they will either volunteer to help you with the search themselves or at least give you suggestions and direct you how to proceed on your own.
Here are the links:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdoptionLatte/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Angels-Bl ... h-Support/
One more thing that every adoptee or birth parent should do is register with ISRR. It's free. You can find it here: http://www.isrr.net/about_isrr.shtml In your case, it probably is unlikely that anyone from the birth family is registered but of course there is the outside chance that some other member of the birth family knows about your grandfather and is looking for him. You never know.
I hope this info helps you in some way. If you care to emai lme directly offlist, I would be happy to review what info you have and make suggestions myself. I have helped with a few adoption searches over the years. Right now I'm working on my husband's but his adoption took place in Ohio during the years that the records are sealed so it's a bit more difficult than your situation in that regard. I know he has a file but we can't see it, your grandfather might not have a file but if he does, he can see it.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Alida a_spry at yahoo dot com
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:45:22 GMT, in alt.genealogy "Natty
Dread" <rthissen.YO@ADRIAN.verizon.net> wrote :
Hello -- My grandfather was adopted as a very young child and my family has
no information on his birth mother or her family. I'd like to find out
more, but I'm not sure how. He was born and adopted near Perry, Ohio
sometime around 1920-1921, and as the family were devout Catholics, we
suspect it may have been a Church-assisted adoption, either through a parish
or family assistance organization. Can anyone here give me an idea of where
to start? I assume that since all parties are deceased, it won't be a
problem getting access to records (if they exist). Thanks in advance for
any information.
Rhonda
Richmond, VA
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Paulette Smith
Re: Family genealogy searches + adoption
St. Joseph's Villa on Rt. 1 and Parham Road was a Catholic orphanage for
many years and handled a great deal of Catholic adoptions. I don't remember
when they first started so I would start by calling the Bishop's office at
the Cathedral (?sp) and ask them what records are available and where.
Good luck, I hope you find out.
Paulette Smith
Glen Allen, Va.
"Natty Dread" <rthissen.YO@ADRIAN.verizon.net> wrote in message
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many years and handled a great deal of Catholic adoptions. I don't remember
when they first started so I would start by calling the Bishop's office at
the Cathedral (?sp) and ask them what records are available and where.
Good luck, I hope you find out.
Paulette Smith
Glen Allen, Va.
"Natty Dread" <rthissen.YO@ADRIAN.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lP89h.141461$PE1.23055@fe04.news.easynews.com...
Hello -- My grandfather was adopted as a very young child and my family
has no information on his birth mother or her family. I'd like to find
out more, but I'm not sure how. He was born and adopted near Perry, Ohio
sometime around 1920-1921, and as the family were devout Catholics, we
suspect it may have been a Church-assisted adoption, either through a
parish or family assistance organization. Can anyone here give me an idea
of where to start? I assume that since all parties are deceased, it won't
be a problem getting access to records (if they exist). Thanks in advance
for any information.
Rhonda
Richmond, VA
--
Basic human psychology is one of my subroutines.
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Gjest
Re: Family genealogy searches + adoption
If you have his exact birth date, you might be able to find something
by the date.
M.
by the date.
M.