Hi
I’ve been told that this list is the place to ask questions that have an
American connection!
I have just discovered, courtesy of the free access to the immigration
records/passenger lists on Ancestry that two of my family sailed to the USA
in the 1930s but I have no idea what became of them.
The ladies in question were two spinsters, Geraldine Hamilton MASSEY (age
62) and Olive MASSEY (age 59). They sailed on the Queen Mary from
Southampton for NYC on 10th Dec 1938 (the top of the manifest reads
“Visitors in Transit”). There doesn’t appear to be any other information on
the manifest to indicate where they might be going, whether they were they
returning or what class of travel they might have been undertaking. I know
that the family had been quite wealthy – their late father had been an owner
of a shipping company operating out of Liverpool and in 1900 they were
presented at Court (Buckingham Palace), they were living in Kensington at
the time.
Now I realise that this was just before the outbreak of war. Could this
trip have been a “jolly” or were they moving away from the war. Is there
anyway of finding out what may have happened to them after arriving in NYC?
I have tried looking for a death for either of them back here in the UK but
without any luck.
The girls/ladies actually had longer names than the manifest shows: Gertrude
Geraldine Hamilton Massey and Isabel Olive Hamilton Massey.
They did have a brother Charles M Hamilton Massey born 1878 in Liverpool -
but I've lost track of him after the 1891 census when the whole family were
staying in the Victoria Hotel in North Meols, Lancashire. Maybe he moved
out to the USA??
The fact that they sailed on the Queen Mary has sparked my curiosity – I’d
love to know what happened next if at all possible (and I’m aware that most
records are probably covered by 100 yrs closure but I thought I’d ask
anyway!).
Mandy
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Elderly Ladies enroute to the USA
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singhals
Re: Elderly Ladies enroute to the USA
Mandy Whitham wrote:
I'd try Canada, myself. 1938, the war was in-progress in
Europe, wasn't it? Seems to me I remember reading somewhere
that the QM was used as a transport for the children sent to
safety in Canada.
Cheryl
Hi
I’ve been told that this list is the place to ask questions that have an
American connection!
I have just discovered, courtesy of the free access to the immigration
records/passenger lists on Ancestry that two of my family sailed to the USA
in the 1930s but I have no idea what became of them.
The ladies in question were two spinsters, Geraldine Hamilton MASSEY (age
62) and Olive MASSEY (age 59). They sailed on the Queen Mary from
Southampton for NYC on 10th Dec 1938 (the top of the manifest reads
“Visitors in Transit”). There doesn’t appear to be any other information on
the manifest to indicate where they might be going, whether they were they
returning or what class of travel they might have been undertaking. I know
that the family had been quite wealthy – their late father had been an owner
of a shipping company operating out of Liverpool and in 1900 they were
presented at Court (Buckingham Palace), they were living in Kensington at
the time.
Now I realise that this was just before the outbreak of war. Could this
trip have been a “jolly” or were they moving away from the war. Is there
anyway of finding out what may have happened to them after arriving in NYC?
I have tried looking for a death for either of them back here in the UK but
without any luck.
The girls/ladies actually had longer names than the manifest shows: Gertrude
Geraldine Hamilton Massey and Isabel Olive Hamilton Massey.
They did have a brother Charles M Hamilton Massey born 1878 in Liverpool -
but I've lost track of him after the 1891 census when the whole family were
staying in the Victoria Hotel in North Meols, Lancashire. Maybe he moved
out to the USA??
The fact that they sailed on the Queen Mary has sparked my curiosity – I’d
love to know what happened next if at all possible (and I’m aware that most
records are probably covered by 100 yrs closure but I thought I’d ask
anyway!).
Mandy
I'd try Canada, myself. 1938, the war was in-progress in
Europe, wasn't it? Seems to me I remember reading somewhere
that the QM was used as a transport for the children sent to
safety in Canada.
Cheryl
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Hugh Watkins
Re: Elderly Ladies enroute to the USA
singhals wrote:
NOPE
Sep. 1, 1939 - Poland invaded by "Blitzkrieg"
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Time ... ude11.html
Sep. 3 - England and France declared war on Germany
to
May 7 - German surrender
* at Reims, Ike wrote: "The mission of this Allied force was
fulfilled at 0241 local time, May 7, 1945."
1945 May 8 - VE Day
and bonfires on the streets
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Time ... ope09.html
Aug. 15 - Emperor surrender broadcast - VJ Day
Hugh W
and
Hugh W
Seems to me I remember reading somewhere that the QM was used as a
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Mandy Whitham wrote:
Hi
I’ve been told that this list is the place to ask questions that have an
American connection!
I have just discovered, courtesy of the free access to the immigration
records/passenger lists on Ancestry that two of my family sailed to
the USA
in the 1930s but I have no idea what became of them.
The ladies in question were two spinsters, Geraldine Hamilton MASSEY (age
62) and Olive MASSEY (age 59). They sailed on the Queen Mary from
Southampton for NYC on 10th Dec 1938 (the top of the manifest reads
“Visitors in Transit”). There doesn’t appear to be any other
information on
the manifest to indicate where they might be going, whether they were
they
returning or what class of travel they might have been undertaking. I
know
that the family had been quite wealthy – their late father had been an
owner
of a shipping company operating out of Liverpool and in 1900 they were
presented at Court (Buckingham Palace), they were living in Kensington at
the time.
Now I realise that this was just before the outbreak of war. Could this
trip have been a “jolly” or were they moving away from the war. Is there
anyway of finding out what may have happened to them after arriving in
NYC?
I have tried looking for a death for either of them back here in the
UK but
without any luck.
The girls/ladies actually had longer names than the manifest shows:
Gertrude
Geraldine Hamilton Massey and Isabel Olive Hamilton Massey.
They did have a brother Charles M Hamilton Massey born 1878 in
Liverpool -
but I've lost track of him after the 1891 census when the whole family
were
staying in the Victoria Hotel in North Meols, Lancashire. Maybe he moved
out to the USA??
The fact that they sailed on the Queen Mary has sparked my curiosity –
I’d
love to know what happened next if at all possible (and I’m aware that
most
records are probably covered by 100 yrs closure but I thought I’d ask
anyway!).
Mandy
I'd try Canada, myself. 1938, the war was in-progress in Europe, wasn't
it?
NOPE
Sep. 1, 1939 - Poland invaded by "Blitzkrieg"
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Time ... ude11.html
Sep. 3 - England and France declared war on Germany
to
May 7 - German surrender
* at Reims, Ike wrote: "The mission of this Allied force was
fulfilled at 0241 local time, May 7, 1945."
1945 May 8 - VE Day
and bonfires on the streets
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Time ... ope09.html
Aug. 15 - Emperor surrender broadcast - VJ Day
Hugh W
and
Hugh W
Seems to me I remember reading somewhere that the QM was used as a
transport for the children sent to safety in Canada.
Cheryl
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http://nanowrimo3.blogspot.com/ visiting my past
http://hughw36-2.blogspot.com/ re-entry
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/" photographs and walks
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http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
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NotMyRealName
Re: Elderly Ladies enroute to the USA
"Mandy Whitham" <mwhitham@onetel.net> wrote in message
news:mailman.121.1164016308.22297.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com...
The 1901 has..
Charles Massey 23 Lancs Lpool Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Counter Off Dk Quay
but would his occupation be too junior?
news:mailman.121.1164016308.22297.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com...
They did have a brother Charles M Hamilton Massey born 1878 in Liverpool -
but I've lost track of him after the 1891 census
The 1901 has..
Charles Massey 23 Lancs Lpool Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Counter Off Dk Quay
but would his occupation be too junior?