Florida Death Index lookup, please?

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Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av Me » 31 okt 2006 04:54:31

Could someone find John Herbert Evans in it? He died in October 1960; he
was born in February 1892. If I can get the exact date of death, I'll have
a better chance of getting an obit from the local paper.
Thanks

Joe Pessarra

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av Joe Pessarra » 31 okt 2006 13:36:05

"Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message
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Could someone find John Herbert Evans in it? He died in October 1960; he
was born in February 1892. If I can get the exact date of death, I'll
have
a better chance of getting an obit from the local paper.
Thanks



You might take a look at the Social Security Death Index.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi We put in John H Evans, and got
120 hits. Could not find one for 1960 death. Are you sure of the year?

If you just put in John Evans, you will get 3087 hits. If you knew his SSN,
you could find him more easily than searching through all 3087. But if you
decide to do this, just do an Edit and Find for either 1892 or 1960 on each
page, rather than look through the whole page.

Joe in Texas

singhals

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av singhals » 31 okt 2006 16:10:40

Joe Pessarra wrote:

"Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message
news:12kdi7bmm3a3447@corp.supernews.com...

Could someone find John Herbert Evans in it? He died in October 1960; he
was born in February 1892. If I can get the exact date of death, I'll

have

a better chance of getting an obit from the local paper.
Thanks




You might take a look at the Social Security Death Index.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi We put in John H Evans, and got
120 hits. Could not find one for 1960 death. Are you sure of the year?

If you just put in John Evans, you will get 3087 hits. If you knew his SSN,
you could find him more easily than searching through all 3087. But if you
decide to do this, just do an Edit and Find for either 1892 or 1960 on each
page, rather than look through the whole page.

Joe in Texas



Easier to hit the Advanced Search button; it'll let you
specify a birth date and a place of death and then just show
you all the hits that match both.

Cheryl

Joe Pessarra

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av Joe Pessarra » 31 okt 2006 16:31:52

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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Joe Pessarra wrote:

"Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message
news:12kdi7bmm3a3447@corp.supernews.com...

Could someone find John Herbert Evans in it? He died in October 1960;
he
was born in February 1892. If I can get the exact date of death, I'll

have

a better chance of getting an obit from the local paper.
Thanks




You might take a look at the Social Security Death Index.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi We put in John H Evans, and
got
120 hits. Could not find one for 1960 death. Are you sure of the year?

If you just put in John Evans, you will get 3087 hits. If you knew his
SSN,
you could find him more easily than searching through all 3087. But if
you
decide to do this, just do an Edit and Find for either 1892 or 1960 on
each
page, rather than look through the whole page.

Joe in Texas



Easier to hit the Advanced Search button; it'll let you
specify a birth date and a place of death and then just show
you all the hits that match both.

Cheryl


Thanks, Cheryl. I plumb forgot about that.

Joe

Me

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av Me » 31 okt 2006 17:13:46

Yep, he was a farmer from Maryland.

"Photon713" <bobrass@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Was this John Herbert Evans a farmer in Maryland in the 1915-1920
time frame?

Bob

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"Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message
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Could someone find John Herbert Evans in it? He died in October 1960; he
was born in February 1892. If I can get the exact date of death, I'll
have a better chance of getting an obit from the local paper.
Thanks



Ron Head

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av Ron Head » 01 nov 2006 02:02:31

"Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@cox.net> wrote in message
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You might take a look at the Social Security Death Index.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi We put in John H Evans, and got
120 hits. Could not find one for 1960 death. Are you sure of the year?


You are not likely to find a pre-1962 death in the SSDI.

Joe Pessarra

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av Joe Pessarra » 01 nov 2006 04:15:32

"Ron Head" <ronhead@knology.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@cox.net> wrote in message
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You might take a look at the Social Security Death Index.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi We put in John H Evans, and
got
120 hits. Could not find one for 1960 death. Are you sure of the year?


You are not likely to find a pre-1962 death in the SSDI.



Thanks for that information. I did not realize that.

Joe Pessarra

James A. Doemer

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 01 nov 2006 04:39:10

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"Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@cox.net> wrote in message
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You might take a look at the Social Security Death Index.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi We put in John H Evans,
and got 120 hits. Could not find one for 1960 death. Are you sure
of the year?


You are not likely to find a pre-1962 death in the SSDI.



Thanks for that information. I did not realize that.

Joe Pessarra

Yeah, Social Security didn't start until 1936, with benifits starting in
1937, but you didn't have full compliance until about 1940 in some states
and local areas. I've often wondered about the people that were already of
retirement age in 1936, does anyone know if they were just out of luck?

Huntersglenn

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 01 nov 2006 05:45:06

James A. Doemer wrote:
Yeah, Social Security didn't start until 1936, with benifits starting in
1937, but you didn't have full compliance until about 1940 in some states
and local areas. I've often wondered about the people that were already of
retirement age in 1936, does anyone know if they were just out of luck?


Ancestry.com has this to say about the database:
This database is an index to basic information about persons with Social
Security numbers whose deaths have been reported to the Social Security
Administration. The death may have been reported by a survivor
requesting benefits. It may have been reported in order to stop Social
Security Benefits to the deceased. Funeral homes often report deaths to
the SSA as a service to family members. Beginning in 1962, the SSA began
to use a computer database for processing requests for benefits. About
98% percent of the people in the SSDI died after 1962, but a few death
dates go back as far as 1937. Because legal Aliens in the U.S. can
obtain a Social Security card, their names may appear in the SSDI if
their deaths were reported. Some 400,000 railroad retirees are also
included in the SSDI.

The Social Security Death Index is not an index to all deceased
individuals who have held Social Security Numbers. It is not a database
of all deceased individuals who have received Social Security Benefits,
or whose families have received survivor benefits. (Porter 1999)

****************************************
So, based on that, you have a far better chance of finding someone
listed in it if they died after 1962 than if they died before that year.
And, it's also possible that a person's death was never reported
to the SSA, for some reason or another (miscommunication, nobody left in
the family to make the report, the family not wanting the death benefit,
etc.).

Cathy

James A. Doemer

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 01 nov 2006 13:30:04

In News ZBV1h.42061$i8.19258@newsfe15.lga,, Huntersglenn at
huntersglenn@cox.net, typed this:

James A. Doemer wrote:

Yeah, Social Security didn't start until 1936, with benifits
starting in 1937, but you didn't have full compliance until about
1940 in some states and local areas. I've often wondered about the
people that were already of retirement age in 1936, does anyone know
if they were just out of luck?

Ancestry.com has this to say about the database:
This database is an index to basic information about persons with
Social Security numbers whose deaths have been reported to the Social
Security Administration. The death may have been reported by a
survivor requesting benefits. It may have been reported in order to
stop Social Security Benefits to the deceased. Funeral homes often
report deaths to the SSA as a service to family members. Beginning in
1962, the SSA began to use a computer database for processing
requests for benefits. About 98% percent of the people in the SSDI
died after 1962, but a few death dates go back as far as 1937.
Because legal Aliens in the U.S. can obtain a Social Security card,
their names may appear in the SSDI if their deaths were reported.
Some 400,000 railroad retirees are also included in the SSDI.

The Social Security Death Index is not an index to all deceased
individuals who have held Social Security Numbers. It is not a
database of all deceased individuals who have received Social
Security Benefits, or whose families have received survivor benefits.
(Porter 1999)
****************************************
So, based on that, you have a far better chance of finding someone
listed in it if they died after 1962 than if they died before that
year. And, it's also possible that a person's death was never
reported to the SSA, for some reason or another (miscommunication, nobody
left
in the family to make the report, the family not wanting the death
benefit, etc.).

Cathy

I think it's actually the law here in Michigan that funeral homes,
cremetoriums, etc, have to report it to the SSA. That, and there is a one
time death benefit to the family. It's now much, like $400.00 or
thereabouts, from the SSA, but it's not something that most people turn
down. There are some of my family members that died after 1962 that are
not in the SS Death Index. I wonder if it's ever too late to report their
death?

singhals

Re: Florida Death Index lookup, please?

Legg inn av singhals » 01 nov 2006 17:48:55

Joe Pessarra wrote:

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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Joe Pessarra wrote:


"Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message
news:12kdi7bmm3a3447@corp.supernews.com...


Could someone find John Herbert Evans in it? He died in October 1960;

he

was born in February 1892. If I can get the exact date of death, I'll

have


a better chance of getting an obit from the local paper.
Thanks




You might take a look at the Social Security Death Index.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi We put in John H Evans, and

got

120 hits. Could not find one for 1960 death. Are you sure of the year?

If you just put in John Evans, you will get 3087 hits. If you knew his

SSN,

you could find him more easily than searching through all 3087. But if

you

decide to do this, just do an Edit and Find for either 1892 or 1960 on

each

page, rather than look through the whole page.

Joe in Texas



Easier to hit the Advanced Search button; it'll let you
specify a birth date and a place of death and then just show
you all the hits that match both.

Cheryl



Thanks, Cheryl. I plumb forgot about that.

Joe




I had an unfair advantage -- I'd just used it. ;)
Cheryl

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