Family Name con Warning

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David J Grimshaw

Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av David J Grimshaw » 11 okt 2006 23:57:11

IMHO the below is fraud, a scam or a con that unsuspecting people will
buy into only to find that the book has postal address of people with
your surname in the back of it and the rest of the book is identical in
every way, for example the only difference between the SMITH and BROWN
surname books will be the surname and the address list.
IMHO this tells us what the below organisations are capable of and their
respective ethics of lack there of.

If you have registered on Ancestry.com, MyFamily.com or RootsWeb.com.
then expect to receive the following Garbage.

"Did you know that the history of your family name could fill a book?
And we can publish it today?

Sifting through our billions of records and other trusted sources, we
carefully gathered all the facts, figures, names, and places we could
find, tracing the origin of your family name as far back as we could go.

Painstakingly compiled from billions of family history records.

Here are just a few of the many facts you may discover:

* What does your family name actually mean? It could stem from an
occupation, the father's name, town name, or even a nickname.
* Where did your family name originate? In many cases, a family
name can be traced all the way back to the original country.
* When did people with your last name come to the United States?
You can learn when they most likely immigrated and even the ships they
sailed to get here.
* What occupations did your family pursue? Maybe it’s built into
the genetic code. Some families have plenty of doctors. In others, it’s
all about farming. If you think it’s all random and personal choice,
wait until you check out that section in your book

This book is a unique volume focused on your family name - and no other.
It's not available at book stores - only through this special offer.

Don't wait. Order your customized copy today.

It is not available elsewhere - and it's just $49.95!

To order,
Buy Now!
or call 1-800-262-3787
Mon. through Fri., 9am - 11pm ET.
Make sure you mention promotion code -----.(code deleted)

P.S. You won’t find it at your local book store or at an online
bookseller. It’s available only through this special offer.
buy now"

Warning do not buy this trash.
David

Robert Melson

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Robert Melson » 12 okt 2006 00:05:55

In article <egjsqd$e85$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> writes:
<snip>>
Warning do not buy this trash.
David

Gee, David, what're you trying to say? You have to learn to express
yourself more clearly ... must be the Strine ;-D

Swell Ol' Bob

--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to
prove that the other party is unfit to rule---and both commonly succeed,
and are right." ---H. L. Mencken

James W Anderson

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av James W Anderson » 12 okt 2006 01:51:06

One way to put a stop to the emails is to report the email for this
particular matter as spam, you can do it via spamcop.net. Spamcop will
rat out the true sender of the email and forward the report to the ISP
it came from. Websites in the email will also be reported.

If you think it is a scam report it to the FTC also.

Henry Brownlee

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Henry Brownlee » 12 okt 2006 02:34:50

"David J Grimshaw" <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:egjsqd$e85$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
IMHO the below is fraud, a scam or a con that unsuspecting people
will
buy into only to find that the book has postal address of people
with
your surname in the back of it and the rest of the book is identical
in
every way, for example the only difference between the SMITH and
BROWN
surname books will be the surname and the address list.
IMHO this tells us what the below organisations are capable of and
their
respective ethics of lack there of.

If you have registered on Ancestry.com, MyFamily.com or
RootsWeb.com.
then expect to receive the following Garbage.

"Did you know that the history of your family name could fill a
book?
And we can publish it today?

Sifting through our billions of records and other trusted sources,
we
carefully gathered all the facts, figures, names, and places we
could
find, tracing the origin of your family name as far back as we could
go.

Painstakingly compiled from billions of family history records.

Here are just a few of the many facts you may discover:

* What does your family name actually mean? It could stem from
an
occupation, the father's name, town name, or even a nickname.
* Where did your family name originate? In many cases, a family
name can be traced all the way back to the original country.
* When did people with your last name come to the United
States?
You can learn when they most likely immigrated and even the ships
they
sailed to get here.
* What occupations did your family pursue? Maybe it’s built
into
the genetic code. Some families have plenty of doctors. In others,
it’s
all about farming. If you think it’s all random and personal choice,
wait until you check out that section in your book

This book is a unique volume focused on your family name - and no
other.
It's not available at book stores - only through this special offer.

Don't wait. Order your customized copy today.

It is not available elsewhere - and it's just $49.95!

To order,
Buy Now!
or call 1-800-262-3787
Mon. through Fri., 9am - 11pm ET.
Make sure you mention promotion code -----.(code deleted)

P.S. You won’t find it at your local book store or at an online
bookseller. It’s available only through this special offer.
buy now"

Warning do not buy this trash.
David

Ah, I see that I am not the only one who received this email from
Family Heritage. In the past, it used to be Halbert's of Bath, OH
which sent out letters for "Your Family" books, etc. Now it is much
easier for the big "legitimate" genealogy companies to mass-mail
subscribers of their various URLs (whether paid or free) and offer
specialized books about "Your Family Name."

I did click on their sample book and it showed a Surname Distribution
map of the U. S. for Sorenson. I am sure that the distribution map for
other surnames and perhaps a few other lists are the only differences
between the BROWN family name book and that of Joe BTZPLK or whomever.

Since the newsgroup was kind of dead, I posted my own response to the
email to soc.genealogy.misc.
--
Henry Brownlee
Houma, Louisiana

Charani

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Charani » 12 okt 2006 08:07:30

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:57:11 +1300, David J Grimshaw wrote:

IMHO the below is fraud, a scam or a con that unsuspecting people will
buy into only to find that the book has postal address of people with
your surname in the back of it and the rest of the book is identical in
every way, for example the only difference between the SMITH and BROWN
surname books will be the surname and the address list.
IMHO this tells us what the below organisations are capable of and their
respective ethics of lack there of.

It came from MyFamily.com aka Ancestry.com/co.uk aka Rootweb.com so
anyone with an Ancestry subscription or free Rootsweb pages or subbed
to Rootsweb will get one.

It was actually a legitimate advertising mail that people agree to
receiving under the heading of "further information". I've had one as
well. It's not a scam or a con but I don't think it's worth the money
being asked for.


--
http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/

James A. Doemer

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 12 okt 2006 12:31:45

In News g_gXg.59200$vX5.10494@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, Henry Brownlee at
hfbrownl@bellsouth.net, typed this:

Hi Henry... I have a Harold Brownlee, born July 14th, 1909 and died July
4th, 1986, married to a Marion Florence Kraus in my family tree. Does that
sound familiar to you?

Henry Brownlee

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Henry Brownlee » 12 okt 2006 14:28:26

"James A. Doemer" <ckdbigtoeNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BIpXg.10427$o71.1763@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News g_gXg.59200$vX5.10494@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, Henry
Brownlee at
hfbrownl@bellsouth.net, typed this:

Hi Henry... I have a Harold Brownlee, born July 14th, 1909 and died
July
4th, 1986, married to a Marion Florence Kraus in my family tree.
Does that
sound familiar to you?


James,

Do not have a Harold BROWNLEE in any of my records, but curiously I
have a 2nd cousin Marion BROWNLEE (b. Abt 1920), daughter of my dad's
1st cousin Charles W. BROWNLEE of Algiers (New Orleans), LA and his
wife Bettye FORD of Mobile, AL. They lived in the Algiers community of
New Orleans. Where did your Harold & Marion live?

Henry

David J Grimshaw

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av David J Grimshaw » 12 okt 2006 20:43:34

Charani wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:57:11 +1300, David J Grimshaw wrote:


IMHO the below is fraud, a scam or a con that unsuspecting people will
buy into only to find that the book has postal address of people with
your surname in the back of it and the rest of the book is identical in
every way, for example the only difference between the SMITH and BROWN
surname books will be the surname and the address list.
IMHO this tells us what the below organisations are capable of and their
respective ethics of lack there of.


It came from MyFamily.com aka Ancestry.com/co.uk aka Rootweb.com so
anyone with an Ancestry subscription or free Rootsweb pages or subbed
to Rootsweb will get one.

It was actually a legitimate advertising mail that people agree to
receiving under the heading of "further information". I've had one as
well. It's not a scam or a con but I don't think it's worth the money
being asked for.


That type of so called advertising in this country is not legal and the

company would be fined for such misleading advertising.

Gary Smith

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Gary Smith » 12 okt 2006 23:24:40

Notice that it says "your family name", not "your family"; that's the key
to the sneakiness. I'm one of a zillion Smiths, but from a very specific
line; I don't need a relatively (no pun intended) expensive book full of
many people of the same last name, but not likely related.
Beware: if it sounds too good to be true, walk away very quickly.


"David J Grimshaw" <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:egjsqd$e85$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
IMHO the below is fraud, a scam or a con that unsuspecting people will buy
into only to find that the book has postal address of people with your
surname in the back of it and the rest of the book is identical in every
way, for example the only difference between the SMITH and BROWN surname
books will be the surname and the address list.
IMHO this tells us what the below organisations are capable of and their
respective ethics of lack there of.

If you have registered on Ancestry.com, MyFamily.com or RootsWeb.com. then
expect to receive the following Garbage.

"Did you know that the history of your family name could fill a book?
And we can publish it today?

Sifting through our billions of records and other trusted sources, we
carefully gathered all the facts, figures, names, and places we could
find, tracing the origin of your family name as far back as we could go.

Painstakingly compiled from billions of family history records.

Here are just a few of the many facts you may discover:

* What does your family name actually mean? It could stem from an
occupation, the father's name, town name, or even a nickname.
* Where did your family name originate? In many cases, a family name
can be traced all the way back to the original country.
* When did people with your last name come to the United States? You
can learn when they most likely immigrated and even the ships they sailed
to get here.
* What occupations did your family pursue? Maybe it’s built into the
genetic code. Some families have plenty of doctors. In others, it’s all
about farming. If you think it’s all random and personal choice, wait
until you check out that section in your book

This book is a unique volume focused on your family name - and no other.
It's not available at book stores - only through this special offer.

Don't wait. Order your customized copy today.

It is not available elsewhere - and it's just $49.95!

To order,
Buy Now!
or call 1-800-262-3787
Mon. through Fri., 9am - 11pm ET.
Make sure you mention promotion code -----.(code deleted)

P.S. You won’t find it at your local book store or at an online
bookseller. It’s available only through this special offer.
buy now"

Warning do not buy this trash.
David

James A. Doemer

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 13 okt 2006 02:01:36

In News dsrXg.25354$zF5.16011@bignews1.bellsouth.net,, Henry Brownlee at
hfbrownl@bellsouth.net, typed this:

"James A. Doemer" <ckdbigtoeNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BIpXg.10427$o71.1763@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News g_gXg.59200$vX5.10494@bignews8.bellsouth.net,, Henry
Brownlee at hfbrownl@bellsouth.net, typed this:

Hi Henry... I have a Harold Brownlee, born July 14th, 1909 and died
July 4th, 1986, married to a Marion Florence Kraus in my family
tree. Does that sound familiar to you?


James,

Do not have a Harold BROWNLEE in any of my records, but curiously I
have a 2nd cousin Marion BROWNLEE (b. Abt 1920), daughter of my dad's
1st cousin Charles W. BROWNLEE of Algiers (New Orleans), LA and his
wife Bettye FORD of Mobile, AL. They lived in the Algiers community of
New Orleans. Where did your Harold & Marion live?

Henry

Detroit, Michigan. My notes said that Harold and Marion had no children.

James A. Doemer

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 13 okt 2006 02:04:33

In News cYCdnV0xJqYuXbPYnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Gary Smith at
garymarian@comcast.net, typed this:

Notice that it says "your family name", not "your family"; that's
the key to the sneakiness. I'm one of a zillion Smiths, but from a
very specific line; I don't need a relatively (no pun intended)
expensive book full of many people of the same last name, but not
likely related. Beware: if it sounds too good to be true, walk away
very quickly.

It migh be of some interest to me, since my name is somewhat rare, but
$50.00 for something sight unseen is rather steep. As far as I know, I've
already collected all the names that might be found in the book.

Brendan R. Wehrung

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Brendan R. Wehrung » 13 okt 2006 06:09:06

"James A. Doemer" (ckdbigtoeNOSPAM@earthlink.net) writes:
In News cYCdnV0xJqYuXbPYnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Gary Smith at
garymarian@comcast.net, typed this:

Notice that it says "your family name", not "your family"; that's
the key to the sneakiness. I'm one of a zillion Smiths, but from a
very specific line; I don't need a relatively (no pun intended)
expensive book full of many people of the same last name, but not
likely related. Beware: if it sounds too good to be true, walk away
very quickly.

It migh be of some interest to me, since my name is somewhat rare, but
$50.00 for something sight unseen is rather steep. As far as I know, I've
already collected all the names that might be found in the book.



I'm sure this is the same con that has gone on for probably 20 years now.
When telephone directories still were confined to CDs (but searchable)
the stock in trade was every number and attached address, no matter how
out of date, printed in large type size to make the booklet thicker. I
recall being listed three times in one about 15 years ago.

I'm pretty sure that everybody with my name is actually related, but I can
find them just as easily at Switchboard.com, French and German
online telephone directories. How, I'll bet they couldn't say.

Brendan

Charani

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Charani » 13 okt 2006 11:22:14

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:43:34 +1300, David J Grimshaw wrote:

That type of so called advertising in this country is not legal and the
company would be fined for such misleading advertising.

Not apparently illegal in the US and not in the UK.
--
http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/

Hugh Watkins

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 13 okt 2006 15:51:43

Robert Melson wrote:

In article <egjsqd$e85$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> writes:
snip>>

Warning do not buy this trash.
David


Gee, David, what're you trying to say? You have to learn to express
yourself more clearly ... must be the Strine ;-D

Swell Ol' Bob


it is a product for the USA market
about finding your ancestors on a ships list for example

Hugh W


--

new phone = new daily blog
http://upsrev622.blogspot.com/

family history
http://hughw36.blogspot.com

Hugh Watkins

Re: Family Name con Warning

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 13 okt 2006 15:52:49

James W Anderson wrote:

One way to put a stop to the emails is to report the email for this
particular matter as spam, you can do it via spamcop.net. Spamcop will
rat out the true sender of the email and forward the report to the ISP
it came from. Websites in the email will also be reported.

If you think it is a scam report it to the FTC also.

he must have subscribed to a myfamilyinc newsletter for one of their sites


and should jut unsubscribe normally

Hugh W

--

new phone = new daily blog
http://upsrev622.blogspot.com/

family history
http://hughw36.blogspot.com

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