Backup Genealogy data

Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper

Svar
elextek

Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av elextek » 04 okt 2006 05:41:15

What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup their
genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD in their
home office?

Thanks in advance for your input.


Elextek

Denis Beauregard

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Denis Beauregard » 04 okt 2006 06:13:40

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:41:15 GMT, "elextek" <elextek@twcny.rr.com>
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup their
genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD in their
home office?

Keep the 2nd copy in a separate building because the house may burn
and there are burglars. You can rent a small safety drawer at your
bank if you work from home, or you can leave a copy to a friend or
relative.


Denis

--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom, début à 1765
oo oo Now on CD-ROM, beginning to 1765

Steve Hayes

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Steve Hayes » 04 okt 2006 07:56:23

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:41:15 GMT, "elextek" <elextek@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup their
genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD in their
home office?

I use a flash drive to copy files from my desktop to my laptop and back again,
usually every day. So there are always three recent copies, and in addition
whenever I close the program I store a backup on the same computer, so there
are two compressed backups on each, not more than 2-3 days old.

I backup to CD about once a month, and give soem of the CDs to my wife to keep
at the office. Occasionally send some to other relatives.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://people.tribe.net/hayesstw
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

Lesley Robertson

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Lesley Robertson » 04 okt 2006 09:33:02

"elextek" <elextek@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LXGUg.3052$484.2387@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup
their genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD
in their home office?

I backup to an external hard drive and to CDs which are replaced regularly

(I have had CDs less than a year old refuse to be read, so am now changing
over to DVDs for long term backup). The CDs are kept in my office (and all
the important stuff from my office pc is backed up and kept at my house). I
keep the master files of everything on my pc, with copies on my laptop
(which is much more easily stolen than the pc).
And I have hardcopy printout of trees, genealogy reports, etc.
Lesley Robertson

David Rowell

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av David Rowell » 04 okt 2006 13:44:22

I back-up the whole genealogy folder - files, data, pictures, everything
- to DVD+R whenever I've made a significant change. The DVD then goes
to my daughter 1300 miles away - in another weather system. I also
back-up the data files to another folder and a pen drive. I've had a
hard drive fail mechanically if a few seconds as I was working - really
spooky!

Neither the genealogy folder nor the back-up are on the root of the boot
drive (they are also on different operating systems) so there is a
fighting chance of easy recovery IF!

Cheap advice: whatever you do make sure it is readable after you've made it.

Dave Rowell

elextek wrote:
What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup their
genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD in their
home office?

Thanks in advance for your input.


Elextek


Dora Smith

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Dora Smith » 07 okt 2006 06:48:04

Anything that provides a backup database if something goes wrong will work.
I have my databases backed up in about four places and in all available
formats.

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
tiggernut24@yahoo.com
"elextek" <elextek@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LXGUg.3052$484.2387@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup
their genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD
in their home office?

Thanks in advance for your input.


Elextek

James W Anderson

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av James W Anderson » 07 okt 2006 18:54:59

One place to back up your data especially if you have some of it
completed, is to submit to the Pedigree Resource File. You do so at
familysearch.org.

That way, if the house burns down, is destroyed by earthquake or
tornado, and the cumputer goes with it, or if the hard drive gets fried
and is unrecoverable, you can buy the set your data appears on
(familysearch.org has a handy submission tracking feature that will
tell you what disc it will be on) and reload it back into your PC or
new PC as it may be.

As it is, they add a million names every three weeks now to that
database, the latest discs are actually DVDs that replace the five-CD
sets they did before. Five CDs fill one DVD for this.

David J Grimshaw

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av David J Grimshaw » 07 okt 2006 20:18:14

James W Anderson wrote:
One place to back up your data especially if you have some of it
completed, is to submit to the Pedigree Resource File. You do so at
familysearch.org.

That way, if the house burns down, is destroyed by earthquake or
tornado, and the cumputer goes with it, or if the hard drive gets fried
and is unrecoverable, you can buy the set your data appears on
(familysearch.org has a handy submission tracking feature that will
tell you what disc it will be on) and reload it back into your PC or
new PC as it may be.

As it is, they add a million names every three weeks now to that
database, the latest discs are actually DVDs that replace the five-CD
sets they did before. Five CDs fill one DVD for this.

Hi James,

Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have no
right to charge you for your work.

Sherry

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Sherry » 07 okt 2006 22:54:45

David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

<snip>
Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have no
right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even if
it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage, unless you can find a
free site, you'll have to pay for the storage.

You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a website - look
at the agreements because many of them give the website full rights to
the family file.

Sherry

James W Anderson

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av James W Anderson » 07 okt 2006 23:03:36

Sherry wrote:
David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

snip

Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have no
right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even if
it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage, unless you can find a
free site, you'll have to pay for the storage.

You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a website - look
at the agreements because many of them give the website full rights to
the family file.

Sherry

In the case of the PRF, you still own the rights to the data you sent,
they copyright the compilation of data to protect you. There have been
some high-profile incidents where people have tried to pilfer data from
LDS products and where they been shut down in the process of trying to
call the data on LDS products their own, etc..

The cost is $20 for the set of five CDs (from 1-125) and the single
DVDs (126-on) which contain the same data as a 5-CD set is $13. Not
the $40-plus that others charge.

CSquared

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av CSquared » 08 okt 2006 03:04:22

"elextek" <elextek@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LXGUg.3052$484.2387@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup
their genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD
in their home office?

Thanks in advance for your input.


Elextek


Kindly folks,

FWIW and for those not aware of the fact, a hard drive _is definitely_ a
volatile storage medium. I could tell you horror stories about people who
have learned that fact the hard way. The average life for a spinning hard
drive is somewhere around 5 years. I am seriously considering getting a
removable hard drive to keep as a "mostly-non-spinning-and-thus-non-wearing"
backup for genealogy data, digital pictures and anything else I treasure.
CD-RW and DVD-RW are almost certainly even worse; in fact I don't use those
for any purpose whatever. I personally prefer CD-R over DVD-anything as the
bits are bigger on the CD and my intuition says they must be inherently more
reliable. The prevailing wisdom in some other newsgroups seems to be that
unless you have at least 3 backups you are not really backed up, and I think
I buy that too. I need to put a copy of the CD-Rs at my daughter's house
too.....

Later,
Charlie C.
--
To email me eradicate obfuscate, remove dot invalid & replace dot & at with
the obvious.
obfuscatecsquared3 at comcast dot net dot invalid
If this seems paranoid I'm sorry, but you should see the spam I've gotten!

James A. Doemer

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 08 okt 2006 13:47:32

In News Xns985597B6F1E08TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.142,, Sherry at
sherdh@excite.com, typed this:

David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

snip

Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have no
right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even
if it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage, unless you can
find a free site, you'll have to pay for the storage.

You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a website -
look at the agreements because many of them give the website full
rights to the family file.

Sherry

That's is exactly why I won't upload my research to Ancestry or any other
pay site.

Hugh Watkins

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 13 okt 2006 10:39:38

Denis Beauregard wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:41:15 GMT, "elextek" <elextek@twcny.rr.com
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:


What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup their
genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD in their
home office?


Keep the 2nd copy in a separate building because the house may burn
and there are burglars. You can rent a small safety drawer at your
bank if you work from home, or you can leave a copy to a friend or
relative.

I am in Europe and my two out of house back ups copies are in USA on
different servers :-)

Hugh W


--

new phone = new daily blog
http://upsrev622.blogspot.com/

family history
http://hughw36.blogspot.com

Hugh Watkins

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 13 okt 2006 10:44:24

James A. Doemer wrote:

In News Xns985597B6F1E08TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.142,, Sherry at
sherdh@excite.com, typed this:


David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

snip

Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have no
right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even
if it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage, unless you can
find a free site, you'll have to pay for the storage.

You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a website -
look at the agreements because many of them give the website full
rights to the family file.

Sherry


That's is exactly why I won't upload my research to Ancestry or any other
pay site.

but my unknown cousins find me because I share and my data will survive
my death for my g g grandchildren to find

Hugh W


--

new phone = new daily blog
http://upsrev622.blogspot.com/

family history
http://hughw36.blogspot.com

Phyllis Nilsson

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Phyllis Nilsson » 13 okt 2006 15:32:38

I understand not wanting to give away information that someone will sell,
and I don't have any subscriptions (as a matter of finances).

I have, however, learned so much information from RootsWeb and FamilySearch
and Cyndi's List that I know more now than my parents or grandparents did
about their own families. I've found many mistakes, but I've learned to
dig a bit deeper to find what I believe makes sense and is more accurate.

I am truly grateful to those who upload to the free sites, and without them,
would never have learned a quarter of the information I now have. The
generosity of those here who do have subscriptions and are so willing to do
look ups for others is truly amazing, and I try very hard not to abuse
their kindness.

Had it not been for this newsgroup I'd never have known about Heritage Quest
and the information I've gleaned from that site is astounding.

I know there are probably other great free sites out there of which I'm
unaware, but if I live long enough I'll find them too and perhaps learn
even more.

Guess all this rambling is just to say thank you for caring enough about
others to upload your information where people can readily find it.


Hugh Watkins wrote:

That's is exactly why I won't upload my research to Ancestry or any other
pay site.

Hugh W



--

James A. Doemer

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 14 okt 2006 03:04:35

In News 4p95fpFhq45jU4@individual.net,, Hugh Watkins at
hugh.watkins@gmail.com, typed this:

James A. Doemer wrote:

In News Xns985597B6F1E08TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.142,, Sherry
at sherdh@excite.com, typed this:


David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

snip

Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have
no right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even
if it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage, unless you
can find a free site, you'll have to pay for the storage.

You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a website -
look at the agreements because many of them give the website full
rights to the family file.

Sherry


That's is exactly why I won't upload my research to Ancestry or any
other pay site.

but my unknown cousins find me because I share and my data will
survive my death for my g g grandchildren to find

Hugh W

Which is why it's an excellent idea to upload your information to the LDS
Family Search site, it's free, and relatively easy to use. Additionally,
there are probably any number of local resources available that are
interested in family history. In Detroit, there is the Burton Historical
Collection which I have donated my family data in hardcopy as well as CD
(Living relatives excluded, of course). The Burton Collection operates out
of the Detroit Public Library, and is very cheap for non-residents to
conduct research, free for residents. Beyond that, I've distributed
copies of my data to every family member that has been interested in having
it. Out of all of them, one of them is bound to pass it along. If the pay
sites want my information, let them make a cash offer for it and I will
consider it.

Hugh Watkins

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 14 okt 2006 09:09:32

James A. Doemer wrote:

In News 4p95fpFhq45jU4@individual.net,, Hugh Watkins at
hugh.watkins@gmail.com, typed this:


James A. Doemer wrote:


In News Xns985597B6F1E08TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.142,, Sherry
at sherdh@excite.com, typed this:



David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

snip

Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have
no right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even
if it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage, unless you
can find a free site, you'll have to pay for the storage.

You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a website -
look at the agreements because many of them give the website full
rights to the family file.

Sherry


That's is exactly why I won't upload my research to Ancestry or any
other pay site.

but my unknown cousins find me because I share and my data will
survive my death for my g g grandchildren to find

Hugh W


Which is why it's an excellent idea to upload your information to the LDS
Family Search site, it's free, and relatively easy to use. Additionally,
there are probably any number of local resources available that are
interested in family history. In Detroit, there is the Burton Historical
Collection which I have donated my family data in hardcopy as well as CD
(Living relatives excluded, of course). The Burton Collection operates out
of the Detroit Public Library, and is very cheap for non-residents to
conduct research, free for residents. Beyond that, I've distributed
copies of my data to every family member that has been interested in having
it. Out of all of them, one of them is bound to pass it along. If the pay
sites want my information, let them make a cash offer for it and I will
consider it.

I feel I would like to support familysearch.org but can I delete and
replace or manage a tree as easily there as on wc.roootsweb.com?

my trees are very much a work in progress and often contain assumptions
or invented dates (for indexing purposes like the 70 John Jones found in
census or marriage records)
until I can prove or disprove the data

Is anyone using both sites?

Hugh W


--

new phone = new daily blog
http://upsrev622.blogspot.com/

family history
http://hughw36.blogspot.com

James A. Doemer

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 14 okt 2006 14:31:12

In News 4pbk9tFhr3mqU1@individual.net,, Hugh Watkins at
hugh.watkins@gmail.com, typed this:

James A. Doemer wrote:

In News 4p95fpFhq45jU4@individual.net,, Hugh Watkins at
hugh.watkins@gmail.com, typed this:


James A. Doemer wrote:


In News Xns985597B6F1E08TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.142,,
Sherry at sherdh@excite.com, typed this:



David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

snip

Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have
no right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even if
it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage,
unless you can find a free site, you'll have to pay for the
storage. You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a
website - look at the agreements because many of them give the
website full rights to the family file.

Sherry


That's is exactly why I won't upload my research to Ancestry or any
other pay site.

but my unknown cousins find me because I share and my data will
survive my death for my g g grandchildren to find

Hugh W


Which is why it's an excellent idea to upload your information to
the LDS Family Search site, it's free, and relatively easy to use.
Additionally, there are probably any number of local resources
available that are interested in family history. In Detroit, there
is the Burton Historical Collection which I have donated my family
data in hardcopy as well as CD (Living relatives excluded, of
course). The Burton Collection operates out of the Detroit Public
Library, and is very cheap for non-residents to conduct research,
free for residents. Beyond that, I've distributed copies of my
data to every family member that has been interested in having it. Out of
all of them, one of them is bound to pass it along. If the
pay sites want my information, let them make a cash offer for it and
I will consider it.

I feel I would like to support familysearch.org but can I delete and
replace or manage a tree as easily there as on wc.roootsweb.com?

my trees are very much a work in progress and often contain
assumptions or invented dates (for indexing purposes like the 70 John
Jones found in census or marriage records)
until I can prove or disprove the data

Is anyone using both sites?

Hugh W

When you upload to familysearch.org you use the same file name that you
uploaded previously and they compare the data to update the original file.

Hugh Watkins

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 14 okt 2006 23:13:40

James A. Doemer wrote:

In News 4pbk9tFhr3mqU1@individual.net,, Hugh Watkins at
hugh.watkins@gmail.com, typed this:


James A. Doemer wrote:


In News 4p95fpFhq45jU4@individual.net,, Hugh Watkins at
hugh.watkins@gmail.com, typed this:



James A. Doemer wrote:



In News Xns985597B6F1E08TansyRagwortNetscape@216.196.97.142,,
Sherry at sherdh@excite.com, typed this:




David J Grimshaw <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:eg8ug1$jjs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

snip

Hi James,
Good idea, however since you own copyright on your work they have
no right to charge you for your work.


But they can charge you for the CD and labor to create the CD. Even if
it were a matter of uploading a gedcom for storage,
unless you can find a free site, you'll have to pay for the
storage. You have to be real careful when you upload your data to a
website - look at the agreements because many of them give the
website full rights to the family file.

Sherry


That's is exactly why I won't upload my research to Ancestry or any
other pay site.

but my unknown cousins find me because I share and my data will
survive my death for my g g grandchildren to find

Hugh W


Which is why it's an excellent idea to upload your information to
the LDS Family Search site, it's free, and relatively easy to use.
Additionally, there are probably any number of local resources
available that are interested in family history. In Detroit, there
is the Burton Historical Collection which I have donated my family
data in hardcopy as well as CD (Living relatives excluded, of
course). The Burton Collection operates out of the Detroit Public
Library, and is very cheap for non-residents to conduct research,
free for residents. Beyond that, I've distributed copies of my
data to every family member that has been interested in having it. Out of
all of them, one of them is bound to pass it along. If the
pay sites want my information, let them make a cash offer for it and
I will consider it.

I feel I would like to support familysearch.org but can I delete and
replace or manage a tree as easily there as on wc.roootsweb.com?

my trees are very much a work in progress and often contain
assumptions or invented dates (for indexing purposes like the 70 John
Jones found in census or marriage records)
until I can prove or disprove the data

Is anyone using both sites?

Hugh W


When you upload to familysearch.org you use the same file name that you
uploaded previously and they compare the data to update the original file.


I would prefer to delete the old file first

Hugh W


--

new phone = new daily blog
http://upsrev622.blogspot.com/

family history
http://hughw36.blogspot.com

Jolene & Bill Loftus

Re: Backup Genealogy data

Legg inn av Jolene & Bill Loftus » 15 okt 2006 15:50:12

I use a backup service out of San Anta California. It works automatically
and you don't have to worry about forgetting, of course there is a fee.
"elextek" <elextek@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LXGUg.3052$484.2387@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
What are genenalogists, family historians, and others doing to backup
their
genealogy data files? Do they store them offsite ? Keep a backup CD in
their
home office?

Thanks in advance for your input.


Elextek



Svar

Gå tilbake til «alt.genealogy»