Guarding against jpg's of 1910 census sheets where it's nearly
impossible to read the headers on some columns, I downloaded the blank
sheets in .pdf format from ancestry.com and opened them using Adobe
Acrobat.
I can now clearly see that columns 30 thru 32 read, respectively,
"Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or Navy", "Whether
blind (both eyes)", and "Whether deaf and dumb."
All that would be wonderful EXCEPT for the fact that on all the census
sheets I've read (from several different states), on persons for whom
the enumerators DID choose to answer those questions, I'm seeing NUMBERS
rather than the "Y" or "N" one would expect.
Where can I find how to translate those numbers?
1910 US census, columns 30, 31, and 32
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Joe Pessarra
Re: 1910 US census, columns 30, 31, and 32
"Ron Hontz" <ronhontz@att.net> wrote in message
news:451DF5F2.7080508@att.net...
Go to the NARA website and use their question form.
http://www.archives.gov/contact/
Click on "Ask us a Question" at the top left side of the screen, and fill
out and send the email form that appears. I have used this before in asking
about the abbreviations at the bottom of the 1930 census form. Worked just
fine. May take a day or two, but you get the answer from the people that
know.
Joe in Texas
news:451DF5F2.7080508@att.net...
Guarding against jpg's of 1910 census sheets where it's nearly
impossible to read the headers on some columns, I downloaded the blank
sheets in .pdf format from ancestry.com and opened them using Adobe
Acrobat.
I can now clearly see that columns 30 thru 32 read, respectively,
"Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or Navy", "Whether
blind (both eyes)", and "Whether deaf and dumb."
All that would be wonderful EXCEPT for the fact that on all the census
sheets I've read (from several different states), on persons for whom
the enumerators DID choose to answer those questions, I'm seeing NUMBERS
rather than the "Y" or "N" one would expect.
Where can I find how to translate those numbers?
Go to the NARA website and use their question form.
http://www.archives.gov/contact/
Click on "Ask us a Question" at the top left side of the screen, and fill
out and send the email form that appears. I have used this before in asking
about the abbreviations at the bottom of the 1930 census form. Worked just
fine. May take a day or two, but you get the answer from the people that
know.
Joe in Texas
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Doug Corbin
Re: 1910 US census, columns 30, 31, and 32
You can read the enumerator's instructions on this site.
http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/inst1910.shtml
Doug
"Ron Hontz" wrote in message news:451DF5F2.7080508@att.net...
http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/inst1910.shtml
Doug
"Ron Hontz" wrote in message news:451DF5F2.7080508@att.net...
Guarding against jpg's of 1910 census sheets where it's nearly
impossible to read the headers on some columns, I downloaded the blank
sheets in .pdf format from ancestry.com and opened them using Adobe
Acrobat.
I can now clearly see that columns 30 thru 32 read, respectively,
"Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or Navy", "Whether
blind (both eyes)", and "Whether deaf and dumb."
All that would be wonderful EXCEPT for the fact that on all the census
sheets I've read (from several different states), on persons for whom
the enumerators DID choose to answer those questions, I'm seeing NUMBERS
rather than the "Y" or "N" one would expect.
Where can I find how to translate those numbers?
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Ron Hontz
Re: 1910 US census, columns 30, 31, and 32
"Ron Hontz" wrote in message news:451DF5F2.7080508@att.net...
Guarding against jpg's of 1910 census sheets where it's nearly
impossible to read the headers on some columns, I downloaded the blank
sheets in .pdf format from ancestry.com and opened them using Adobe
Acrobat.
I can now clearly see that columns 30 thru 32 read, respectively,
"Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or Navy", "Whether
blind (both eyes)", and "Whether deaf and dumb."
All that would be wonderful EXCEPT for the fact that on all the census
sheets I've read (from several different states), on persons for whom
the enumerators DID choose to answer those questions, I'm seeing
NUMBERS >>rather than the "Y" or "N" one would expect.
Where can I find how to translate those numbers?
Doug Corbin wrote:
You can read the enumerator's instructions on this site.
http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/inst1910.shtml
Doug
Thanks, Doug. I hadn't known of such a site and, in fact, if one backs
up the URL a bit, one can find the enumerator's instructions for ALL
censuses from 1850 thru 1930 at
http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/tEnumInstr.shtml
I'm certainly bookmarking that site for future usage.
HOWEVER, here's how it reads with respect to the three 1910 columns I
asked about:
192. Column 30. Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or
Navy.—This question should be asked as to all males over 50 years of age
who were born in the United States and all foreign born males who
immigrated to this country before 1865. Write "UA" if a survivor of the
Union Army; "UN" if a survivor of the Union Navy; "CA" if a survivor of
the Confederate Army; and "CN" if a survivor of the confederate Navy.
For all other persons leave the column blank.
BLIND AND DEAF AND DUMB PERSONS
193. Column 31. Whether blind (both eyes).—If a person is either totally
or partially blind, in both eyes, so as not to be able to read even with
the help of glasses, write "Bl." For all other persons leave the column
blank.
194. Column 32. Whether deaf and dumb.—If a person is both deaf and
dumb, write "DD." For all other persons leave the column blank. Persons
who are deaf but not dumb, or persons who are dumb but not deaf, are not
to be reported.
It's nice to know how they were SUPPOSED to fill out the columns but I
am now looking at two specific examples of how they REALLY did it.
One fellow from PA has, in 30-32 "0", "9", and "8"
A Minnesota guy's reads "-4", "-5", and "-5"
Again, thanks for the pointer that may yet help me on further queries
but my problem today hasn't yet been solved.
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ecunningham
Re: 1910 US census, columns 30, 31, and 32
Ron Hontz wrote:
Ron: As I remember, they are of no interest to you. The National
Archives website re census records says the following:
"# A word of caution: On the 1910 census, columns 30-32 are often
"overwritten" with numbers like 2-1-0-0 or 6-9-0-0. These numbers are
not the answers for columns 30-32, but were data summaries used by
Census Bureau tabulators in Washington, DC, to compile statistical data. "
ecunningham@att.net
It's nice to know how they were SUPPOSED to fill out the columns but I
am now looking at two specific examples of how they REALLY did it.
One fellow from PA has, in 30-32 "0", "9", and "8"
A Minnesota guy's reads "-4", "-5", and "-5"
Again, thanks for the pointer that may yet help me on further queries
but my problem today hasn't yet been solved.
Ron: As I remember, they are of no interest to you. The National
Archives website re census records says the following:
"# A word of caution: On the 1910 census, columns 30-32 are often
"overwritten" with numbers like 2-1-0-0 or 6-9-0-0. These numbers are
not the answers for columns 30-32, but were data summaries used by
Census Bureau tabulators in Washington, DC, to compile statistical data. "
ecunningham@att.net
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Ron Hontz
Re: 1910 US census, columns 30, 31, and 32
ecunningham wrote:
Ah, OK. Now that you mention it, I just went back and looked at ALL
the 1910's I'd saved from various states. I find absolutely NONE where
an enumerator followed the instructions. And, rather than those columns
simply being overwritten at Census Bureau HQ, they were left totally
blank until the numbers were inserted. Having worked for Uncle myself,
my best guess would be that they came out with "informal" instructions
after the formal instructions had already gone to the printer. The
"informal" instructions would have said "Just skip those last 3 columns."
Thanks.
Ron Hontz wrote:
It's nice to know how they were SUPPOSED to fill out the columns but I
am now looking at two specific examples of how they REALLY did it.
One fellow from PA has, in 30-32 "0", "9", and "8"
A Minnesota guy's reads "-4", "-5", and "-5"
Again, thanks for the pointer that may yet help me on further queries
but my problem today hasn't yet been solved.
Ron: As I remember, they are of no interest to you. The National
Archives website re census records says the following:
"# A word of caution: On the 1910 census, columns 30-32 are often
"overwritten" with numbers like 2-1-0-0 or 6-9-0-0. These numbers are
not the answers for columns 30-32, but were data summaries used by
Census Bureau tabulators in Washington, DC, to compile statistical data. "
ecunningham@att.net
Ah, OK. Now that you mention it, I just went back and looked at ALL
the 1910's I'd saved from various states. I find absolutely NONE where
an enumerator followed the instructions. And, rather than those columns
simply being overwritten at Census Bureau HQ, they were left totally
blank until the numbers were inserted. Having worked for Uncle myself,
my best guess would be that they came out with "informal" instructions
after the formal instructions had already gone to the printer. The
"informal" instructions would have said "Just skip those last 3 columns."
Thanks.