LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

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LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av Mardon » 13 sep 2006 21:22:23

The LDS "Pedigree Resource File" for one of my ancestors, lists his
occupation as: "Military.. GR 1861-1865". Can anyone elaborate on
exactly what this means? The URL to the record is here.
http://tinyurl.com/eb6x8

singhals

Re: LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av singhals » 13 sep 2006 21:36:57

Mardon wrote:

The LDS "Pedigree Resource File" for one of my ancestors, lists his
occupation as: "Military.. GR 1861-1865". Can anyone elaborate on
exactly what this means? The URL to the record is here.
http://tinyurl.com/eb6x8

He was in the Union (Yankee) Army during the US Civil War. (GR = Grand
Army of the Republic)

For details, I suggest (a) the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors project at
NPS and (b) the Compiled Service Records at National Archives in DC.

Cheryl

Mardon

Re: LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av Mardon » 13 sep 2006 22:04:48

singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:

Mardon wrote:
The LDS "Pedigree Resource File" for one of my ancestors, lists
his occupation as: "Military.. GR 1861-1865". Can anyone
elaborate on exactly what this means? The URL to the record is
here. http://tinyurl.com/eb6x8

He was in the Union (Yankee) Army during the US Civil War. (GR =
Grand Army of the Republic)

For details, I suggest (a) the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors
project at
NPS and (b) the Compiled Service Records at National Archives
in DC.

Cheryl

Thank you, Cheryl.

I kind of wondered if that might be what it meant but was hoping it
wasn't because that makes the LDS record wrong. I'm familiar with the
GAR usage but hadn't seen it abbreviated as "GR" before. This
relative is my great grandfather and I know from family records that
he was living in Alsace until 1872. He fought for France in the
Franco-Prussian War of 1871 and was taken prisoner by the Germans.
When he got out of prison, he emigrated to the U.S.. I was hoping
that "GR" might have had a French Army meaning. I guess it's not
uncommon for "PRF" files to contain incorrect information but I was
hoping this wasn't one of those occasions. :(

Thanks again for your reply.

f/fgeorge

Re: LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av f/fgeorge » 13 sep 2006 22:31:53

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:04:48 GMT, Mardon <mgb72mgb@hotmail.com> wrote:

singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:

Mardon wrote:
The LDS "Pedigree Resource File" for one of my ancestors, lists
his occupation as: "Military.. GR 1861-1865". Can anyone
elaborate on exactly what this means? The URL to the record is
here. http://tinyurl.com/eb6x8

He was in the Union (Yankee) Army during the US Civil War. (GR =
Grand Army of the Republic)

For details, I suggest (a) the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors
project at
NPS and (b) the Compiled Service Records at National Archives
in DC.

Cheryl

Thank you, Cheryl.

I kind of wondered if that might be what it meant but was hoping it
wasn't because that makes the LDS record wrong. I'm familiar with the
GAR usage but hadn't seen it abbreviated as "GR" before. This
relative is my great grandfather and I know from family records that
he was living in Alsace until 1872. He fought for France in the
Franco-Prussian War of 1871 and was taken prisoner by the Germans.
When he got out of prison, he emigrated to the U.S.. I was hoping
that "GR" might have had a French Army meaning. I guess it's not
uncommon for "PRF" files to contain incorrect information but I was
hoping this wasn't one of those occasions. :(

Thanks again for your reply.
LDS records that are not original records, in other words records put

in by users, are very suspect. At one time there was a "guideline"
that every LDS member had to find 4 new generations to their family.
TONS of wrong info was sent in!!! Use those records as a guideline for
searching, never as a source.
Now the LDS does do original source filming, those I use as sources
all the time.

Mardon

Re: LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av Mardon » 13 sep 2006 23:02:16

f/fgeorge <ffgeorge@yourplace.com> wrote:

LDS records that are not original records, in other words
records put in by users, are very suspect. At one time there was
a "guideline" that every LDS member had to find 4 new
generations to their family. TONS of wrong info was sent in!!!
Use those records as a guideline for searching, never as a
source. Now the LDS does do original source filming, those I use
as sources all the time.

I agree 100% with what you've said. I've found a lot of information
regarding my Quaker ancestors in the LDS microfilm of the original
Quaker meeting records (esp. Queensbury, NY). Those records are
wonderful! I also realize the suspect nature of the "Pedigree
Resource File" information. Great for finding 'leads' but too often
wrong information creeps in. That's why I was not really that
surprised that a Civil War reference was attached to my great
grandfather who never arrived in the U.S. until the 1870's.

BTW, If anyone's interested, my Family History sites are:
http://www.ErblandBrown.org and http://www.Erbland.org.
The great grandfather I mentioned in my OP was August (aka Auguste,
aka Augustin) ERBLAND.

singhals

Re: LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av singhals » 14 sep 2006 01:34:22

Mardon wrote:

singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:


Mardon wrote:

The LDS "Pedigree Resource File" for one of my ancestors, lists
his occupation as: "Military.. GR 1861-1865". Can anyone
elaborate on exactly what this means? The URL to the record is
here. http://tinyurl.com/eb6x8

He was in the Union (Yankee) Army during the US Civil War. (GR =
Grand Army of the Republic)

For details, I suggest (a) the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors
project at
NPS and (b) the Compiled Service Records at National Archives
in DC.

Cheryl


Thank you, Cheryl.

I kind of wondered if that might be what it meant but was hoping it
wasn't because that makes the LDS record wrong. I'm familiar with the
GAR usage but hadn't seen it abbreviated as "GR" before. This
relative is my great grandfather and I know from family records that
he was living in Alsace until 1872. He fought for France in the
Franco-Prussian War of 1871 and was taken prisoner by the Germans.
When he got out of prison, he emigrated to the U.S.. I was hoping
that "GR" might have had a French Army meaning. I guess it's not
uncommon for "PRF" files to contain incorrect information but I was
hoping this wasn't one of those occasions. :(

Thanks again for your reply.


Well, couple thoughts --

the PRF is a user-submitted database; a lot of users "customize" their
data to the point of incomprehensibility. It's always _possible_ that
the submitter was telling himself that the guy was in GeRmany in 1861-65
so no need to look for his Civil War record.

And, a longer shot -- he was stateside during The Late Unpleasantness,
returned to Alsace-Lorraine just in time to get dragged into their war
and when he got out he came back to the states.

Why not contact the submitter and ASK what she meant? -- not that I know
quite how to do that with what they give you on-line, but it ought to be
on the CDs ...

Cheryl

ecunningham

Re: LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av ecunningham » 14 sep 2006 02:24:09

singhals wrote:

the PRF is a user-submitted database; a lot of users "customize" their
data to the point of incomprehensibility. It's always _possible_ that
the submitter was telling himself that the guy was in GeRmany in 1861-65

Why not contact the submitter and ASK what she meant? -- not that I know
quite how to do that with what they give you on-line, but it ought to be
on the CDs ...


Cheryl: It's not on #41, I looked and the military reference is not
either!
Possibly she updated on later PRF's and used the same person number?
Might try finding a appropriate surname mailing list and see if she is
around there?
ecunningham@att.net

Mardon

Re: LDS "Pedigree Resource File" Question

Legg inn av Mardon » 14 sep 2006 13:10:47

ecunningham <ecunningham@att.net> wrote:

Why not contact the submitter and ASK what she meant? -- not
that I know quite how to do that with what they give you
on-line, but it ought to be on the CDs ...

Cheryl: It's not on #41, I looked and the military reference
is not either!
Possibly she updated on later PRF's and used the same person
number? Might try finding a appropriate surname mailing list and
see if she is around there?
ecunningham@att.net

Thanks for looking up the CD #41 reference. The surname mailing list
idea would normally be a good one too but I'm the Rootsweb
administrator for the ERBLAND surname mailing list and we only have 3
members; my sister and I, plus a friend in France. :( I know
enough about my great grandfather to be very confident that he was
not in the U.S. during the U.S. Civil War. I feel certain it's just
an error in the PRF. "Thanks for all the help," to everyone who
posted.

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