Clazey or Claysie

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T.M. Sommers

Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av T.M. Sommers » 31 aug 2006 05:07:50

Does anyone know the origins of the Claysie or Clazey (or some
other variant) surname?

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Lesley Robertson

Re: Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av Lesley Robertson » 31 aug 2006 09:12:23

"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
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Does anyone know the origins of the Claysie or Clazey (or some other
variant) surname?

Scottish. For example, there's a couple of families of them in my 1-place

study parish of Whitsome & Hilton in Berwickshire, Scotland
Lesley Robertson
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T.M. Sommers

Re: Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av T.M. Sommers » 31 aug 2006 11:11:38

Lesley Robertson wrote:
"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
news:44f6608c$0$10205$470ef3ce@news.pa.net...

Does anyone know the origins of the Claysie or Clazey (or some other
variant) surname?

Scottish. For example, there's a couple of families of them in my 1-place
study parish of Whitsome & Hilton in Berwickshire, Scotland

Thanks. That fits with one of them being baptized in a
Presbyterian church in Maryland. I don't see them mentioned in
Fraser's _Steel Bonnets_, though, so I guess they were
law-abiding. How boring of them.

Is 'Clazey' the canonical spelling?

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Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

Lesley Robertson

Re: Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av Lesley Robertson » 31 aug 2006 12:29:48

"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
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Lesley Robertson wrote:
"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
news:44f6608c$0$10205$470ef3ce@news.pa.net...

Does anyone know the origins of the Claysie or Clazey (or some other
variant) surname?

Scottish. For example, there's a couple of families of them in my 1-place
study parish of Whitsome & Hilton in Berwickshire, Scotland

Thanks. That fits with one of them being baptized in a Presbyterian
church in Maryland. I don't see them mentioned in Fraser's _Steel
Bonnets_, though, so I guess they were law-abiding. How boring of them.

Is 'Clazey' the canonical spelling?

There isn't really such a thing with scottish surnames - you need a bit of a

fuzzy attitude before WW1. People (even if literate) would say their names
to the Minister or Clerk and he would write down what he heard. All well and
good if they were both accustomed to the same regional accent, but wild and
wide variations occur (one of mine has 13 spellings that I know of including
Baldy, Baldie, Bawdy, Bawdie, Baude, Baldwe, etc, etc). Basically if it
sounds the same when you read it aloud, someone will have spelled it that
way.
The ones in my database all seem to have used Clazie.

When wanting to know about spelling and surname distribution, I run a quick
search with the IGI - of the 31 hits, there's only 5 not in Berwickshire,
and they're still south of the Forth in Midlothian and Edinburgh and ALL
using Clazie. The same search, run for England, Wales and Ireland gave 0.
It's obviously a very localised name. If you find out who the immigrant was,
post the names - you have a good chance that many of them are related.
Lesley Robertson

T.M. Sommers

Re: Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av T.M. Sommers » 09 sep 2006 05:51:13

Lesley Robertson wrote:
"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
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Lesley Robertson wrote:
"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
news:44f6608c$0$10205$470ef3ce@news.pa.net...

Does anyone know the origins of the Claysie or Clazey (or some other
variant) surname?

Scottish. For example, there's a couple of families of them in my 1-place
study parish of Whitsome & Hilton in Berwickshire, Scotland

Thanks. That fits with one of them being baptized in a Presbyterian
church in Maryland. I don't see them mentioned in Fraser's _Steel
Bonnets_, though, so I guess they were law-abiding. How boring of them.

Is 'Clazey' the canonical spelling?

There isn't really such a thing with scottish surnames - you need a bit of a
fuzzy attitude before WW1. People (even if literate) would say their names
to the Minister or Clerk and he would write down what he heard. All well and
good if they were both accustomed to the same regional accent, but wild and
wide variations occur (one of mine has 13 spellings that I know of including
Baldy, Baldie, Bawdy, Bawdie, Baude, Baldwe, etc, etc). Basically if it
sounds the same when you read it aloud, someone will have spelled it that
way.

Sure, but often one or a few versions of the name dominate, and
others appear only as scribal errors.

The ones in my database all seem to have used Clazie.

That does seem to be the most popular version in Scotland.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

Hugh Watkins

Re: Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 10 sep 2006 00:18:03

T.M. Sommers wrote:

Lesley Robertson wrote:

"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
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Lesley Robertson wrote:

"T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> wrote in message
news:44f6608c$0$10205$470ef3ce@news.pa.net...

Does anyone know the origins of the Claysie or Clazey (or some
other variant) surname?


Scottish. For example, there's a couple of families of them in my
1-place study parish of Whitsome & Hilton in Berwickshire, Scotland


Thanks. That fits with one of them being baptized in a Presbyterian
church in Maryland. I don't see them mentioned in Fraser's _Steel
Bonnets_, though, so I guess they were law-abiding. How boring of them.

Is 'Clazey' the canonical spelling?


There isn't really such a thing with scottish surnames - you need a
bit of a fuzzy attitude before WW1. People (even if literate) would
say their names to the Minister or Clerk and he would write down what
he heard. All well and good if they were both accustomed to the same
regional accent, but wild and wide variations occur (one of mine has
13 spellings that I know of including Baldy, Baldie, Bawdy, Bawdie,
Baude, Baldwe, etc, etc). Basically if it sounds the same when you
read it aloud, someone will have spelled it that way.


Sure, but often one or a few versions of the name dominate, and others
appear only as scribal errors.

The ones in my database all seem to have used Clazie.


That does seem to be the most popular version in Scotland.

gaelic names mistranscribed into english?


Hugh W

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Lesley Robertson

Re: Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av Lesley Robertson » 10 sep 2006 08:37:11

"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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gaelic names mistranscribed into english?

All sorts of names mis-recorded. Scotland had/has strong regional variation

in its accents, and Ministers often didn't come from the local area. People
said their name with one accent, he wrote down what he heard while
accustomed to another accent, variations appeared all over the place.
Lesley Robertson

T.M. Sommers

Re: Clazey or Claysie

Legg inn av T.M. Sommers » 10 sep 2006 14:36:31

Hugh Watkins wrote:
T.M. Sommers wrote:
Lesley Robertson wrote:

The ones in my database all seem to have used Clazie.

That does seem to be the most popular version in Scotland.

gaelic names mistranscribed into english?

Probably not. The name seems to come from Berwick.

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Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

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