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SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Gjest » 13 aug 2005 18:46:02

Hi,

The link I used to use to get the date an SSN was issued is gone (it
was http://www.informus.com/ssnlkup.html). This worked whether the SSN
was "expired" or not.

I found a couple of other places that return only the state of issue
(they are SSN verifiers, not death indexes)

Anyone know of a free site where I can lookup the year an SSN was
issued?

I tried 3 different SSDI search pages, but none of them give this
information (I didn't try ancestry.com, as that's a pay site). The
formal description of the Death Index says it has a field for date of
issue, and I found a sample Death Index report (pay site) that gives
this information. So I'm looking for an SSDI search page that includes
this information.

Thanks

Richard Dalberg

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Richard Dalberg » 13 aug 2005 20:47:34

<emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123955162.317540.150270@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hi,

The link I used to use to get the date an SSN was issued is gone (it
was http://www.informus.com/ssnlkup.html). This worked whether the SSN
was "expired" or not.

I found a couple of other places that return only the state of issue
(they are SSN verifiers, not death indexes)

Anyone know of a free site where I can lookup the year an SSN was
issued?

I tried 3 different SSDI search pages, but none of them give this
information (I didn't try ancestry.com, as that's a pay site). The
formal description of the Death Index says it has a field for date of
issue, and I found a sample Death Index report (pay site) that gives
this information. So I'm looking for an SSDI search page that includes
this information.

Thanks


Use this page at the LDS site.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp
Joe Pessarra in Georgetown, Texas
joepessarra@cox.net

Roland

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Roland » 13 aug 2005 21:24:00

<emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123955162.317540.150270@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hi,

The link I used to use to get the date an SSN was issued is gone (it
was http://www.informus.com/ssnlkup.html). This worked whether the SSN
was "expired" or not.

I found a couple of other places that return only the state of issue
(they are SSN verifiers, not death indexes)

Anyone know of a free site where I can lookup the year an SSN was
issued?

I tried 3 different SSDI search pages, but none of them give this
information (I didn't try ancestry.com, as that's a pay site). The
formal description of the Death Index says it has a field for date of
issue, and I found a sample Death Index report (pay site) that gives
this information. So I'm looking for an SSDI search page that includes
this information.

Thanks


http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

Gjest

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Gjest » 13 aug 2005 21:43:17

Use this page at the LDS site.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp
Joe Pessarra in Georgetown, Texas


That's one I tried - it doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.

Gjest

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Gjest » 13 aug 2005 21:44:13

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.

Roland

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Roland » 14 aug 2005 00:53:37

<emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


I misread your request. Personally I have never come across a place that
states when the number was issued and I wonder if one does exist. Also, the
only reason I can think of wanting this information is to verify if a
person(immigrant) was in the U.S. at a certain time period. I was born in
the U.S. and received a SSN when I was 14 but I can see no relevance to this
in genealogy if someone were to look for me in the future.

Any thoughts?

Bruce Remick

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 14 aug 2005 00:54:29

<emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123965853.254683.42470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


Ancestry doesn't note in the SSDI the actual date an SSN was issued, either. I
don't recall ever seeing a site-- pay or not-- that had that feature, but then I
guess I never knew about the one you referenced.

Bruce

Christopher Jahn

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Christopher Jahn » 14 aug 2005 00:59:07

"Bruce Remick" <remick@cox.net> wrote in
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emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


Ancestry doesn't note in the SSDI the actual date an SSN was issued,
either. I don't recall ever seeing a site-- pay or not-- that had
that feature, but then I guess I never knew about the one you
referenced.


Most I've seen have been issued "Before 1951". I can't recall seeing a
more recent date, but then I haven't been looking at recent deaths, either.



--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html

Hey, wow man, they've got codes for mazurkas!

Laurie S

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Laurie S » 14 aug 2005 02:55:24

emily_g107@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,

The link I used to use to get the date an SSN was issued is gone (it
was http://www.informus.com/ssnlkup.html). This worked whether the SSN
was "expired" or not.

I found a couple of other places that return only the state of issue
(they are SSN verifiers, not death indexes)

Anyone know of a free site where I can lookup the year an SSN was
issued?

I tried 3 different SSDI search pages, but none of them give this
information (I didn't try ancestry.com, as that's a pay site). The
formal description of the Death Index says it has a field for date of
issue, and I found a sample Death Index report (pay site) that gives
this information. So I'm looking for an SSDI search page that includes
this information.

Thanks

I agree with the others, I've never seen that info included but you know

you can request a copy of the application, although not free, but it has
the date, their address and occupation and their signature.
Laurie

Huntersglenn

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 14 aug 2005 05:13:27

Christopher Jahn wrote:
"Bruce Remick" <remick@cox.net> wrote in
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emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123965853.254683.42470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


Ancestry doesn't note in the SSDI the actual date an SSN was issued,
either. I don't recall ever seeing a site-- pay or not-- that had
that feature, but then I guess I never knew about the one you
referenced.



Most I've seen have been issued "Before 1951". I can't recall seeing a
more recent date, but then I haven't been looking at recent deaths, either.

I just did a quick run through at ancestry.com, putting in names of
people that I knew were born after 1951 and have died and it does show
the year that they received their SSN (in one case it was 1971, in the
other, it was 1976). Put in someone who I knew obtained their card
earlier and got the (before 1951) date.


Cathy

Bruce Remick

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 14 aug 2005 14:08:18

"Huntersglenn" <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in message
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Christopher Jahn wrote:
"Bruce Remick" <remick@cox.net> wrote in
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emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123965853.254683.42470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


Ancestry doesn't note in the SSDI the actual date an SSN was issued,
either. I don't recall ever seeing a site-- pay or not-- that had
that feature, but then I guess I never knew about the one you
referenced.



Most I've seen have been issued "Before 1951". I can't recall seeing a
more recent date, but then I haven't been looking at recent deaths, either.

I just did a quick run through at ancestry.com, putting in names of
people that I knew were born after 1951 and have died and it does show
the year that they received their SSN (in one case it was 1971, in the
other, it was 1976). Put in someone who I knew obtained their card
earlier and got the (before 1951) date.


Cathy

I hadn't noticed that and am glad you pointed it out. I rechecked the SSDI on
several people I knew of and I got a 1978 for one and a date range (1956 to
1959) for the other. As you say, with those whose SSN was issued before 1951,
only a "before 1951" is given

Bruce.

singhals

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av singhals » 14 aug 2005 15:59:25

Laurie S wrote:

emily_g107@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,

The link I used to use to get the date an SSN was issued is gone (it
was http://www.informus.com/ssnlkup.html). This worked whether the SSN
was "expired" or not.

I found a couple of other places that return only the state of issue
(they are SSN verifiers, not death indexes)

Anyone know of a free site where I can lookup the year an SSN was
issued?

I tried 3 different SSDI search pages, but none of them give this
information (I didn't try ancestry.com, as that's a pay site). The
formal description of the Death Index says it has a field for date of
issue, and I found a sample Death Index report (pay site) that gives
this information. So I'm looking for an SSDI search page that includes
this information.

Thanks

I agree with the others, I've never seen that info included but you know
you can request a copy of the application, although not free, but it has
the date, their address and occupation and their signature.
Laurie


At least, up until the time the IRS decided EVERY breathing resident
needed a Tax ID/SSN ... which was what, about 1980? when newborns listed
as a dependent on your tax return needed an SSN. Occupation: infant.
Signature by Mom or Dad. Which ought to be real fun for future
genealogists.

Cheryl

googled

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av googled » 14 aug 2005 20:20:39

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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Laurie S wrote:

emily_g107@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,

The link I used to use to get the date an SSN was issued is gone (it
was http://www.informus.com/ssnlkup.html). This worked whether the SSN
was "expired" or not.

I found a couple of other places that return only the state of issue
(they are SSN verifiers, not death indexes)

Anyone know of a free site where I can lookup the year an SSN was
issued?

I tried 3 different SSDI search pages, but none of them give this
information (I didn't try ancestry.com, as that's a pay site). The
formal description of the Death Index says it has a field for date of
issue, and I found a sample Death Index report (pay site) that gives
this information. So I'm looking for an SSDI search page that includes
this information.

Thanks

I agree with the others, I've never seen that info included but you know
you can request a copy of the application, although not free, but it has
the date, their address and occupation and their signature.
Laurie


At least, up until the time the IRS decided EVERY breathing resident
needed a Tax ID/SSN ... which was what, about 1980? when newborns listed
as a dependent on your tax return needed an SSN. Occupation: infant.
Signature by Mom or Dad. Which ought to be real fun for future
genealogists.

Cheryl


The problem actually starts in 1961 when the SSN became an individual's
taxpayer ID number. Starting in 1962 or 1963 it was required to have a SSN
number to have a bank or brokerage account in order to link the interest and
dividends paid to the individual taxpayer. I remember my brother and I
getting our social security cards as children in 1962 or 1963.

Gjest

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Gjest » 15 aug 2005 02:01:33

Huntersglenn wrote:
Christopher Jahn wrote:
"Bruce Remick" <remick@cox.net> wrote in
news:XKvLe.244$ej5.25@lakeread05:



emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123965853.254683.42470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


Ancestry doesn't note in the SSDI the actual date an SSN was issued,
either. I don't recall ever seeing a site-- pay or not-- that had
that feature, but then I guess I never knew about the one you
referenced.



Most I've seen have been issued "Before 1951". I can't recall seeing a
more recent date, but then I haven't been looking at recent deaths, either.

I just did a quick run through at ancestry.com, putting in names of
people that I knew were born after 1951 and have died and it does show
the year that they received their SSN (in one case it was 1971, in the
other, it was 1976). Put in someone who I knew obtained their card
earlier and got the (before 1951) date.


Cathy

Okay, so there is an SSDI that includes this data from the Death Index.
(Again, I was previously using a free link from Informus that included
all SSN's, not just the 'expired' ones.) After reading that I again
searched for other (free) SSDI indexes that include this, and I didn't
find any. Ancestry costs around $200, and I had a free (14 day)
account several months ago (I didn't find anything I hadn't already
found elsewhere). Ancestry's pretty steep considering I want to check
4 SSNs. I could do that through a private company for $15 each (which I
won't - it will have to wait for another day - when hopefully I'll have
better luck).

If anyone knows of another SSDI index that includes the 'year SSN
issued' field from the Death Index, please post it here, or e-mail
emily_g107 @ hotmail.com

Thanks

D. Stussy

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av D. Stussy » 15 aug 2005 04:07:50

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005, Roland wrote:
emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123965853.254683.42470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


I misread your request. Personally I have never come across a place that
states when the number was issued and I wonder if one does exist. Also, the
only reason I can think of wanting this information is to verify if a
person(immigrant) was in the U.S. at a certain time period. I was born in
the U.S. and received a SSN when I was 14 but I can see no relevance to this
in genealogy if someone were to look for me in the future.

It's an indication of in which state a person lived when it was issued. It can
help if a family moved around alot. You've got blinders on regarding your
reasoning. Remember that no census after the passage of the Social Security
Act has been released yet....

D. Stussy

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av D. Stussy » 15 aug 2005 04:30:50

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, singhals wrote:
At least, up until the time the IRS decided EVERY breathing resident needed a
Tax ID/SSN ... which was what, about 1980? when newborns listed as a dependent
on your tax return needed an SSN. Occupation: infant. Signature by Mom or
Dad. Which ought to be real fun for future genealogists.

The IRS did not decide that. Congress did: 26 USC 151(e) from PL 104-188,
section 1615(a)(1), first introduced by Rep. Bill Archer (TX) on 05/14/1996.

You're also off by 16 years. The space for the dependent SSN was added first
on the 1987 Form 1040, and only asked for it of persons age 5 years and older.
In 1989, the age floor was lowered to 2 years old. 1991 made the age floor 1
year old. 1995 is the year the age floor was done away with - but children
born in November or December of 1995 did not have the requirement because SSA
told IRS that they can't issue the number that quickly in time for the April
15th deadline.

Therefore, newborns (born anytime) claimed as dependents were not required to
have a number until 1996.

People who are never claimed as a dependent still don't need a number.

Paulette

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Paulette » 15 aug 2005 05:57:01

<emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Huntersglenn wrote:
Christopher Jahn wrote:
"Bruce Remick" <remick@cox.net> wrote in
news:XKvLe.244$ej5.25@lakeread05:



emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123965853.254683.42470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


Ancestry doesn't note in the SSDI the actual date an SSN was issued,
either. I don't recall ever seeing a site-- pay or not-- that had
that feature, but then I guess I never knew about the one you
referenced.



Most I've seen have been issued "Before 1951". I can't recall seeing a
more recent date, but then I haven't been looking at recent deaths,
either.

I just did a quick run through at ancestry.com, putting in names of
people that I knew were born after 1951 and have died and it does show
the year that they received their SSN (in one case it was 1971, in the
other, it was 1976). Put in someone who I knew obtained their card
earlier and got the (before 1951) date.


Cathy

Okay, so there is an SSDI that includes this data from the Death Index.
(Again, I was previously using a free link from Informus that included
all SSN's, not just the 'expired' ones.) After reading that I again
searched for other (free) SSDI indexes that include this, and I didn't
find any. Ancestry costs around $200, and I had a free (14 day)
account several months ago (I didn't find anything I hadn't already
found elsewhere). Ancestry's pretty steep considering I want to check
4 SSNs. I could do that through a private company for $15 each (which I
won't - it will have to wait for another day - when hopefully I'll have
better luck).

If anyone knows of another SSDI index that includes the 'year SSN
issued' field from the Death Index, please post it here, or e-mail
emily_g107 @ hotmail.com

Thanks


I understand that it is possible to have access to Ancestry for free in the
Family History Centers.

Christopher Jahn

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Christopher Jahn » 15 aug 2005 06:20:53

emily_g107@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1124067693.114525.320640@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

Huntersglenn wrote:
Christopher Jahn wrote:
"Bruce Remick" <remick@cox.net> wrote in
news:XKvLe.244$ej5.25@lakeread05:



emily_g107@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123965853.254683.42470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb .com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

That's one I tried. It doesn't give the year the SSN was issued.


Ancestry doesn't note in the SSDI the actual date an SSN was
issued, either. I don't recall ever seeing a site-- pay or not--
that had that feature, but then I guess I never knew about the one
you referenced.



Most I've seen have been issued "Before 1951". I can't recall
seeing a more recent date, but then I haven't been looking at
recent deaths, either.

I just did a quick run through at ancestry.com, putting in names of
people that I knew were born after 1951 and have died and it does
show the year that they received their SSN (in one case it was 1971,
in the other, it was 1976). Put in someone who I knew obtained their
card earlier and got the (before 1951) date.


Cathy

Okay, so there is an SSDI that includes this data from the Death
Index. (Again, I was previously using a free link from Informus that
included all SSN's, not just the 'expired' ones.) After reading that I
again searched for other (free) SSDI indexes that include this, and I
didn't find any. Ancestry costs around $200, and I had a free (14
day) account several months ago (I didn't find anything I hadn't
already found elsewhere). Ancestry's pretty steep considering I want
to check 4 SSNs. I could do that through a private company for $15
each (which I won't - it will have to wait for another day - when
hopefully I'll have better luck).

It is more accurate to say "Ancestry costs UP TO $200". I don't spend near
that much on it in a year, because I don't have everything. You don't have
to take the full package: pick what you need.


If anyone knows of another SSDI index that includes the 'year SSN
issued' field from the Death Index, please post it here, or e-mail
emily_g107 @ hotmail.com

I doubt that you'll find a free one that has all the detail you want.

A request to SSA for the record costs $27 each record. Add it up, and the
cost of subscribing to a service doesn't seem so dear.

--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html

Strike any user to continue.

cecilia

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av cecilia » 15 aug 2005 08:37:10

emily_g107@hotmail.com wrote:
[...] Ancestry costs around $200 [...]

See http://landing.ancestry.com/ppv/ppv.aspx
(2 days, 5 views, 4.95 USD)

Bluegene

Re: SSDI - Death Index - date SSN issued - search link gone

Legg inn av Bluegene » 16 aug 2005 03:27:43

I understand that it is possible to have access to Ancestry for free
in the
Family History Centers.

Also, your friendly Public Library probably subscribes to Ancestry
through the Gale Group. Check it out.

Henry F. Brownlee
Hunting Forebears

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