To all German speaking...
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Hubert Klingsland
To all German speaking...
Hello
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland
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ALIDA SPRY
Re: To all German speaking...
Hubert,
I'd be happy to help you but the page can not be found. Is the link
correct?
Alida
"Hubert Klingsland" <hubabuba@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:fdb23273.0504250852.76891fc7@posting.google.com...
I'd be happy to help you but the page can not be found. Is the link
correct?
Alida
"Hubert Klingsland" <hubabuba@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:fdb23273.0504250852.76891fc7@posting.google.com...
Hello
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland
-
Joe H. Gallagher
Re: To all German speaking...
Alida
Try http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/
Joe
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Try http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/
Joe
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Hubert,
I'd be happy to help you but the page can not be found. Is the link
correct?
Alida
"Hubert Klingsland" <hubabuba@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:fdb23273.0504250852.76891fc7@posting.google.com...
Hello
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland
-
ALIDA SPRY
Re: To all German speaking...
Thanks Joe!
OK, Hubert, basically this is what the website says about your possible
ancestors.
The main page says
No longer anonymous
Photos from the official identities cardfile of the Gestapo in Vienna
This selection from the so-called Gestapo cardfile contains, at present,
approximately 3,900 photos from NS-Opfern (sacrifice?), which, along with
biographical details such as information about the arrests and further
prosecution, completes the files. The cardfile which comes from the
inventory of the Vienna Local and National Archives, was entered into a
database in 2001 by DOW (Dokumentationsarchiv des Oesterreichischen
Widerstandes - Document Archives of the Austrian Resistance). Missing
photos could be partly restored from the inventory of the DOW.
The Klingsland are found under the heading Jews (German has two words,
Juedinnen for female Jews and Jueden for male Jews)
Alfons Klingsland, Vienna
born 10 Feb 1896
The legal attorney Alfons Klingsland, in a list from the Highland Court
Presidents of Vienna (31 Jan 1942), was registered as a half-breed (mixed
race) of the first degree, and was arrested on 20 October 1944 under
suspicion of high treason. He was imprisoned at KZ Mauthausen from 21
November 1944 til 18 Jan 1945.
His sisters Alice and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Alice Klingsland, Vienna
born 27 Jan 1895
The secretary Alice Klingsland was arrested on 20 Oct 1944 under suspicion
of high treason. From the middle of March through 1 April 1945, she was
imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Martha Klingsland, Vienna
born 20 Feb 1898
The secretary Martha Klingsland was officially identified and registered by
the Gestapo on 1 Nov 1944 in Vienna. From the middle of March through 1
April 1945, she was imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Alice Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
That is a word for word translation to the best of my ability. While I did
study German for many years, was an exchange student and received a
certificate for German as a foreign language, I haven't used my German on a
regular basis for quite some time. If anyone sees any errors in my
translation, please feel free to correct it.
This is a very interesting website. It doesn't say if there is any further
information available on any of these individuals though.
Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.
Alida
"Joe H. Gallagher" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:426D8706.1050907@ix.netcom.com...
OK, Hubert, basically this is what the website says about your possible
ancestors.
The main page says
No longer anonymous
Photos from the official identities cardfile of the Gestapo in Vienna
This selection from the so-called Gestapo cardfile contains, at present,
approximately 3,900 photos from NS-Opfern (sacrifice?), which, along with
biographical details such as information about the arrests and further
prosecution, completes the files. The cardfile which comes from the
inventory of the Vienna Local and National Archives, was entered into a
database in 2001 by DOW (Dokumentationsarchiv des Oesterreichischen
Widerstandes - Document Archives of the Austrian Resistance). Missing
photos could be partly restored from the inventory of the DOW.
The Klingsland are found under the heading Jews (German has two words,
Juedinnen for female Jews and Jueden for male Jews)
Alfons Klingsland, Vienna
born 10 Feb 1896
The legal attorney Alfons Klingsland, in a list from the Highland Court
Presidents of Vienna (31 Jan 1942), was registered as a half-breed (mixed
race) of the first degree, and was arrested on 20 October 1944 under
suspicion of high treason. He was imprisoned at KZ Mauthausen from 21
November 1944 til 18 Jan 1945.
His sisters Alice and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Alice Klingsland, Vienna
born 27 Jan 1895
The secretary Alice Klingsland was arrested on 20 Oct 1944 under suspicion
of high treason. From the middle of March through 1 April 1945, she was
imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Martha Klingsland, Vienna
born 20 Feb 1898
The secretary Martha Klingsland was officially identified and registered by
the Gestapo on 1 Nov 1944 in Vienna. From the middle of March through 1
April 1945, she was imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Alice Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
That is a word for word translation to the best of my ability. While I did
study German for many years, was an exchange student and received a
certificate for German as a foreign language, I haven't used my German on a
regular basis for quite some time. If anyone sees any errors in my
translation, please feel free to correct it.
This is a very interesting website. It doesn't say if there is any further
information available on any of these individuals though.
Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.
Alida
"Joe H. Gallagher" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:426D8706.1050907@ix.netcom.com...
Alida
Try http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/
Joe
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Hubert,
I'd be happy to help you but the page can not be found. Is the link
correct?
Alida
"Hubert Klingsland" <hubabuba@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:fdb23273.0504250852.76891fc7@posting.google.com...
Hello
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland
-
ALIDA SPRY
Re: To all German speaking...
Just a quick note:
The "Highland Court President" may be what we all a Supreme Court Judge or
something similiar.
Alida
"ALIDA SPRY" <a_spry@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2ktbe.6788$yc.5152@trnddc04...
The "Highland Court President" may be what we all a Supreme Court Judge or
something similiar.
Alida
"ALIDA SPRY" <a_spry@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2ktbe.6788$yc.5152@trnddc04...
Thanks Joe!
OK, Hubert, basically this is what the website says about your possible
ancestors.
The main page says
No longer anonymous
Photos from the official identities cardfile of the Gestapo in Vienna
This selection from the so-called Gestapo cardfile contains, at present,
approximately 3,900 photos from NS-Opfern (sacrifice?), which, along with
biographical details such as information about the arrests and further
prosecution, completes the files. The cardfile which comes from the
inventory of the Vienna Local and National Archives, was entered into a
database in 2001 by DOW (Dokumentationsarchiv des Oesterreichischen
Widerstandes - Document Archives of the Austrian Resistance). Missing
photos could be partly restored from the inventory of the DOW.
The Klingsland are found under the heading Jews (German has two words,
Juedinnen for female Jews and Jueden for male Jews)
Alfons Klingsland, Vienna
born 10 Feb 1896
The legal attorney Alfons Klingsland, in a list from the Highland Court
Presidents of Vienna (31 Jan 1942), was registered as a half-breed (mixed
race) of the first degree, and was arrested on 20 October 1944 under
suspicion of high treason. He was imprisoned at KZ Mauthausen from 21
November 1944 til 18 Jan 1945.
His sisters Alice and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Alice Klingsland, Vienna
born 27 Jan 1895
The secretary Alice Klingsland was arrested on 20 Oct 1944 under suspicion
of high treason. From the middle of March through 1 April 1945, she was
imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Martha Klingsland, Vienna
born 20 Feb 1898
The secretary Martha Klingsland was officially identified and registered
by the Gestapo on 1 Nov 1944 in Vienna. From the middle of March through
1 April 1945, she was imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Alice Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
That is a word for word translation to the best of my ability. While I
did study German for many years, was an exchange student and received a
certificate for German as a foreign language, I haven't used my German on
a regular basis for quite some time. If anyone sees any errors in my
translation, please feel free to correct it.
This is a very interesting website. It doesn't say if there is any further
information available on any of these individuals though.
Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.
Alida
"Joe H. Gallagher" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:426D8706.1050907@ix.netcom.com...
Alida
Try http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/
Joe
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Hubert,
I'd be happy to help you but the page can not be found. Is the link
correct?
Alida
"Hubert Klingsland" <hubabuba@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:fdb23273.0504250852.76891fc7@posting.google.com...
Hello
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland
-
Robert Heiling
Re: To all German speaking...
Great job! Permit me to just clarify that I think the "NS-Opfern (sacrifice?)"
refers to *Victims of National Socialism* i.e. Nationalsozialismus (Nazi)
HTH
Bob
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
refers to *Victims of National Socialism* i.e. Nationalsozialismus (Nazi)
HTH
Bob
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Just a quick note:
The "Highland Court President" may be what we all a Supreme Court Judge or
something similiar.
Alida
"ALIDA SPRY" <a_spry@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2ktbe.6788$yc.5152@trnddc04...
Thanks Joe!
OK, Hubert, basically this is what the website says about your possible
ancestors.
The main page says
No longer anonymous
Photos from the official identities cardfile of the Gestapo in Vienna
This selection from the so-called Gestapo cardfile contains, at present,
approximately 3,900 photos from NS-Opfern (sacrifice?), which, along with
biographical details such as information about the arrests and further
prosecution, completes the files. The cardfile which comes from the
inventory of the Vienna Local and National Archives, was entered into a
database in 2001 by DOW (Dokumentationsarchiv des Oesterreichischen
Widerstandes - Document Archives of the Austrian Resistance). Missing
photos could be partly restored from the inventory of the DOW.
The Klingsland are found under the heading Jews (German has two words,
Juedinnen for female Jews and Jueden for male Jews)
Alfons Klingsland, Vienna
born 10 Feb 1896
The legal attorney Alfons Klingsland, in a list from the Highland Court
Presidents of Vienna (31 Jan 1942), was registered as a half-breed (mixed
race) of the first degree, and was arrested on 20 October 1944 under
suspicion of high treason. He was imprisoned at KZ Mauthausen from 21
November 1944 til 18 Jan 1945.
His sisters Alice and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Alice Klingsland, Vienna
born 27 Jan 1895
The secretary Alice Klingsland was arrested on 20 Oct 1944 under suspicion
of high treason. From the middle of March through 1 April 1945, she was
imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Martha Klingsland, Vienna
born 20 Feb 1898
The secretary Martha Klingsland was officially identified and registered
by the Gestapo on 1 Nov 1944 in Vienna. From the middle of March through
1 April 1945, she was imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Alice Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
That is a word for word translation to the best of my ability. While I
did study German for many years, was an exchange student and received a
certificate for German as a foreign language, I haven't used my German on
a regular basis for quite some time. If anyone sees any errors in my
translation, please feel free to correct it.
This is a very interesting website. It doesn't say if there is any further
information available on any of these individuals though.
Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.
Alida
"Joe H. Gallagher" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:426D8706.1050907@ix.netcom.com...
Alida
Try http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/
Joe
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Hubert,
I'd be happy to help you but the page can not be found. Is the link
correct?
Alida
"Hubert Klingsland" <hubabuba@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:fdb23273.0504250852.76891fc7@posting.google.com...
Hello
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland
-
Lutz Engelhardt
Re: To all German speaking...
The "Highland Court President" may be what we all a Supreme Court Judge or
something similiar.
Let's leave the Highland(s) in Scotland. A Oberlandesgerichtspräsident
is the president of a state's supreme court. He may be a judge too, but
his function as president has nothing to do with a judge.
Lutz Engelhardt
--
Ancestors from Germany?
http://www.lutz-genealogy.de
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ALIDA SPRY
Re: To all German speaking...
"Lutz Engelhardt" <mail@lutz-genealogy.de> wrote in message
news:426e895e$0$29186$9b622d9e@news.freenet.de...
Let's leave the Highland(s) in Scotland. A Oberlandesgerichtspräsident
is the president of a state's supreme court. He may be a judge too, but
his function as president has nothing to do with a judge.
Lutz Engelhardt
Lutz
Thank you for the clarification. As I said, I tried a word for word
translation and that was a term I wasn't familiar with so I just took a
guess by breaking it down to its elements.
Alida
--
Ancestors from Germany?
http://www.lutz-genealogy.de
news:426e895e$0$29186$9b622d9e@news.freenet.de...
The "Highland Court President" may be what we all a Supreme Court Judge or
something similiar.
Let's leave the Highland(s) in Scotland. A Oberlandesgerichtspräsident
is the president of a state's supreme court. He may be a judge too, but
his function as president has nothing to do with a judge.
Lutz Engelhardt
Lutz
Thank you for the clarification. As I said, I tried a word for word
translation and that was a term I wasn't familiar with so I just took a
guess by breaking it down to its elements.
Alida
--
Ancestors from Germany?
http://www.lutz-genealogy.de
-
ALIDA SPRY
Re: To all German speaking...
"Robert Heiling" <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:426E7764.7C8638CC@comcast.net...
Thanks Bob.
I wasn't familiar with term in that context. I'm glad to have a chance to
use my German and it's nice to learn new words.
Alida
news:426E7764.7C8638CC@comcast.net...
Great job! Permit me to just clarify that I think the "NS-Opfern
(sacrifice?)"
refers to *Victims of National Socialism* i.e. Nationalsozialismus
(Nazi)
HTH
Bob
Thanks Bob.
I wasn't familiar with term in that context. I'm glad to have a chance to
use my German and it's nice to learn new words.
Alida
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Just a quick note:
The "Highland Court President" may be what we all a Supreme Court Judge
or
something similiar.
Alida
"ALIDA SPRY" <a_spry@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2ktbe.6788$yc.5152@trnddc04...
Thanks Joe!
OK, Hubert, basically this is what the website says about your possible
ancestors.
The main page says
No longer anonymous
Photos from the official identities cardfile of the Gestapo in Vienna
This selection from the so-called Gestapo cardfile contains, at
present,
approximately 3,900 photos from NS-Opfern (sacrifice?), which, along
with
biographical details such as information about the arrests and further
prosecution, completes the files. The cardfile which comes from the
inventory of the Vienna Local and National Archives, was entered into a
database in 2001 by DOW (Dokumentationsarchiv des Oesterreichischen
Widerstandes - Document Archives of the Austrian Resistance). Missing
photos could be partly restored from the inventory of the DOW.
The Klingsland are found under the heading Jews (German has two words,
Juedinnen for female Jews and Jueden for male Jews)
Alfons Klingsland, Vienna
born 10 Feb 1896
The legal attorney Alfons Klingsland, in a list from the Highland Court
Presidents of Vienna (31 Jan 1942), was registered as a half-breed
(mixed
race) of the first degree, and was arrested on 20 October 1944 under
suspicion of high treason. He was imprisoned at KZ Mauthausen from 21
November 1944 til 18 Jan 1945.
His sisters Alice and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Alice Klingsland, Vienna
born 27 Jan 1895
The secretary Alice Klingsland was arrested on 20 Oct 1944 under
suspicion
of high treason. From the middle of March through 1 April 1945, she
was
imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Martha Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
Martha Klingsland, Vienna
born 20 Feb 1898
The secretary Martha Klingsland was officially identified and
registered
by the Gestapo on 1 Nov 1944 in Vienna. From the middle of March
through
1 April 1945, she was imprisoned at the work camp Oberlandzendorf.
Her siblings Alfons and Alice Klingsland were likewise apprehended.
That is a word for word translation to the best of my ability. While I
did study German for many years, was an exchange student and received a
certificate for German as a foreign language, I haven't used my German
on
a regular basis for quite some time. If anyone sees any errors in my
translation, please feel free to correct it.
This is a very interesting website. It doesn't say if there is any
further
information available on any of these individuals though.
Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.
Alida
"Joe H. Gallagher" <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:426D8706.1050907@ix.netcom.com...
Alida
Try http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/
Joe
ALIDA SPRY wrote:
Hubert,
I'd be happy to help you but the page can not be found. Is the link
correct?
Alida
"Hubert Klingsland" <hubabuba@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:fdb23273.0504250852.76891fc7@posting.google.com...
Hello
I have recently found information (at http://www.doew.at/php/gestapo/index)
about unknown to me so far, branch of my family-KLINGSLAND (Syblings:
Alfons, Alice and Martha, who lived in Wienna, Austria during II
World
War).
Is there anyone of you, who speaks German, kind enough to help me to
find out more about history of those people in Wienna. Perhaps there
is a trace in death records or cemetary listings?
I know that Alfons KLingsland was an attorney - in 1947 he had a case
in court in Wienna - but that is all I know so far.
Thank you for all extra information.
Greetings from Poland
Hubert Klingsland