Attention Military Historians.
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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James A. Doemer
Attention Military Historians.
For all of you who are knowledgeable in U.S. Military history, I have
something of a mystery. Recently I sent for my Great Grandfather's,
Anthony J. P. Doemer's, military records. He joined the Michigan National
Guard on June 19th, 1916 and was discharged on May 8th, 1917. Due to the
National Defense Act of June 18th, 1916, National Guard Units were called
into federal service and Gr. Grandfather found himself down to Camp Cotton,
El Paso, Texas serving an essentially uneventful guard duty along the
Mexican Border during The Mexican Border War. He served with the 1st
Michigan Infantry, 31st regiment, company F. For unknown reasons, Anthony
came home aproximately one month before the 31st was sent back to Michigan,
and disbanded from federal service. We do know that he received an
honorable discharge.
That's the short history of it. The mystery of it is that when we received
a partial service record (partial because apparently many if not most of the
military records from that time were lost in a fire), it confirmed his dates
of service, but under the "Decorations and Awards" section it had the
following listed:
1. WW I Victory Button (Bronze).
2. WW I Victory Medal w/Battle Clasps For Defensive Sector.
My question is: How could he have been awarded this button and medal
without having served in WW I?
something of a mystery. Recently I sent for my Great Grandfather's,
Anthony J. P. Doemer's, military records. He joined the Michigan National
Guard on June 19th, 1916 and was discharged on May 8th, 1917. Due to the
National Defense Act of June 18th, 1916, National Guard Units were called
into federal service and Gr. Grandfather found himself down to Camp Cotton,
El Paso, Texas serving an essentially uneventful guard duty along the
Mexican Border during The Mexican Border War. He served with the 1st
Michigan Infantry, 31st regiment, company F. For unknown reasons, Anthony
came home aproximately one month before the 31st was sent back to Michigan,
and disbanded from federal service. We do know that he received an
honorable discharge.
That's the short history of it. The mystery of it is that when we received
a partial service record (partial because apparently many if not most of the
military records from that time were lost in a fire), it confirmed his dates
of service, but under the "Decorations and Awards" section it had the
following listed:
1. WW I Victory Button (Bronze).
2. WW I Victory Medal w/Battle Clasps For Defensive Sector.
My question is: How could he have been awarded this button and medal
without having served in WW I?
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Kay Archer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
"James A. Doemer" <jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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from there is a picture there as well):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_Victory_Medal
Criteria
Originally known simply as the "Victory Medal", the World War I Victory
Medal was awarded to any member of the U.S. military who had served in the
armed forces between the following dates in the following locations.
a.. April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918 for any military service.
b.. November 12, 1918, to August 5, 1919 for service in European Russia
c.. November 23, 1918, to April 1, 1920 for service with the American
Expeditionary Forces in Siberia
In 1945 the World War II Victory Medal was created as the "Victory Ribbon".
Between 1945 and 1947, the two awards were known as the "Victory Medal" and
"Victory Ribbon". In 1947, when the Victory Ribbon became a full sized medal
as the World War II Victory Medal, the World War I Victory Medal adopted its
current name. Some military records as late as the 1950s, however, continued
to annotate the decoration by its previous name, and the medal was often
referred to as "Victory Medal (WWI)".
news:Y0Q5e.3077$An2.2578@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
For all of you who are knowledgeable in U.S. Military history, I have
something of a mystery. Recently I sent for my Great Grandfather's,
Anthony J. P. Doemer's, military records. He joined the Michigan
National
Guard on June 19th, 1916 and was discharged on May 8th, 1917. Due to
the
National Defense Act of June 18th, 1916, National Guard Units were called
into federal service and Gr. Grandfather found himself down to Camp
Cotton,
El Paso, Texas serving an essentially uneventful guard duty along the
Mexican Border during The Mexican Border War. He served with the 1st
Michigan Infantry, 31st regiment, company F. For unknown reasons,
Anthony
came home aproximately one month before the 31st was sent back to
Michigan,
and disbanded from federal service. We do know that he received an
honorable discharge.
That's the short history of it. The mystery of it is that when we
received
a partial service record (partial because apparently many if not most of
the
military records from that time were lost in a fire), it confirmed his
dates
of service, but under the "Decorations and Awards" section it had the
following listed:
1. WW I Victory Button (Bronze).
2. WW I Victory Medal w/Battle Clasps For Defensive Sector.
Very easy, he was serving at the correct time.
from there is a picture there as well):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_Victory_Medal
Criteria
Originally known simply as the "Victory Medal", the World War I Victory
Medal was awarded to any member of the U.S. military who had served in the
armed forces between the following dates in the following locations.
a.. April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918 for any military service.
b.. November 12, 1918, to August 5, 1919 for service in European Russia
c.. November 23, 1918, to April 1, 1920 for service with the American
Expeditionary Forces in Siberia
In 1945 the World War II Victory Medal was created as the "Victory Ribbon".
Between 1945 and 1947, the two awards were known as the "Victory Medal" and
"Victory Ribbon". In 1947, when the Victory Ribbon became a full sized medal
as the World War II Victory Medal, the World War I Victory Medal adopted its
current name. Some military records as late as the 1950s, however, continued
to annotate the decoration by its previous name, and the medal was often
referred to as "Victory Medal (WWI)".
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James A. Doemer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
"Kay Archer" <kayhyphenarcher@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:115fmvfe8oldrc5@corp.supernews.com...
That seems odd to me I guess. I looks like he got the medal by one month
for service in which he never even went close to WWI or Europe, and for
other than a few pot shots at some of Pauncho Villa's scouts, never seen any
combat. Of course, come to think of it, I knew some guys that had a
Vietnam Era Ribbon that had enlisted directly after the Vietnam war had
ended. Perhaps it is the same sort of situation.
news:115fmvfe8oldrc5@corp.supernews.com...
"James A. Doemer" <jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Y0Q5e.3077$An2.2578@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
For all of you who are knowledgeable in U.S. Military history, I have
something of a mystery. Recently I sent for my Great Grandfather's,
Anthony J. P. Doemer's, military records. He joined the Michigan
National
Guard on June 19th, 1916 and was discharged on May 8th, 1917. Due to
the
National Defense Act of June 18th, 1916, National Guard Units were
called
into federal service and Gr. Grandfather found himself down to Camp
Cotton,
El Paso, Texas serving an essentially uneventful guard duty along the
Mexican Border during The Mexican Border War. He served with the 1st
Michigan Infantry, 31st regiment, company F. For unknown reasons,
Anthony
came home aproximately one month before the 31st was sent back to
Michigan,
and disbanded from federal service. We do know that he received an
honorable discharge.
That's the short history of it. The mystery of it is that when we
received
a partial service record (partial because apparently many if not most of
the
military records from that time were lost in a fire), it confirmed his
dates
of service, but under the "Decorations and Awards" section it had the
following listed:
1. WW I Victory Button (Bronze).
2. WW I Victory Medal w/Battle Clasps For Defensive Sector.
Very easy, he was serving at the correct time.
from there is a picture there as well):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_Victory_Medal
Criteria
Originally known simply as the "Victory Medal", the World War I Victory
Medal was awarded to any member of the U.S. military who had served in the
armed forces between the following dates in the following locations.
a.. April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918 for any military service.
b.. November 12, 1918, to August 5, 1919 for service in European Russia
c.. November 23, 1918, to April 1, 1920 for service with the American
Expeditionary Forces in Siberia
In 1945 the World War II Victory Medal was created as the "Victory
Ribbon".
Between 1945 and 1947, the two awards were known as the "Victory Medal"
and
"Victory Ribbon". In 1947, when the Victory Ribbon became a full sized
medal
as the World War II Victory Medal, the World War I Victory Medal adopted
its
current name. Some military records as late as the 1950s, however,
continued
to annotate the decoration by its previous name, and the medal was often
referred to as "Victory Medal (WWI)".
That seems odd to me I guess. I looks like he got the medal by one month
for service in which he never even went close to WWI or Europe, and for
other than a few pot shots at some of Pauncho Villa's scouts, never seen any
combat. Of course, come to think of it, I knew some guys that had a
Vietnam Era Ribbon that had enlisted directly after the Vietnam war had
ended. Perhaps it is the same sort of situation.
-
James A. Doemer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
"Kay Archer" <kayhyphenarcher@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:115fmvfe8oldrc5@corp.supernews.com...
btw Kay, thanks for your response. This leads to another question. My Gr.
Grandmother was meticulous about keeping her husbands stuff and passing it
to my Grandfather. However, he never got these awards/decorations from
her. Anthony died young, at the age of 40 in 1928 from pneumonia. The
website you gave said that the WWI Victory Medal wasn't created until 1919,
although it was awarded to people who served from April 1917. Is it
possible that Anthony never got his medal/button? If not, can I petition
for them at this late date? If he did get them, and they were lost, can I
get replacements?
Thank you very much for your patience.
news:115fmvfe8oldrc5@corp.supernews.com...
Very easy, he was serving at the correct time.
from there is a picture there as well):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_Victory_Medal
Criteria
Originally known simply as the "Victory Medal", the World War I Victory
Medal was awarded to any member of the U.S. military who had served in the
armed forces between the following dates in the following locations.
a.. April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918 for any military service.
b.. November 12, 1918, to August 5, 1919 for service in European Russia
c.. November 23, 1918, to April 1, 1920 for service with the American
Expeditionary Forces in Siberia
In 1945 the World War II Victory Medal was created as the "Victory
Ribbon".
Between 1945 and 1947, the two awards were known as the "Victory Medal"
and
"Victory Ribbon". In 1947, when the Victory Ribbon became a full sized
medal
as the World War II Victory Medal, the World War I Victory Medal adopted
its
current name. Some military records as late as the 1950s, however,
continued
to annotate the decoration by its previous name, and the medal was often
referred to as "Victory Medal (WWI)".
btw Kay, thanks for your response. This leads to another question. My Gr.
Grandmother was meticulous about keeping her husbands stuff and passing it
to my Grandfather. However, he never got these awards/decorations from
her. Anthony died young, at the age of 40 in 1928 from pneumonia. The
website you gave said that the WWI Victory Medal wasn't created until 1919,
although it was awarded to people who served from April 1917. Is it
possible that Anthony never got his medal/button? If not, can I petition
for them at this late date? If he did get them, and they were lost, can I
get replacements?
Thank you very much for your patience.
-
Althiom
Re: Attention Military Historians.
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:27:04 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
<jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
<S N I P >
Yes you can get replacements from the Department of the Army, but be
advised that it may be your children getting the replacements unless
you can provide the citations that awarded the medals as the Army will
have to research (i.e. dig through hundreds/thousands/millions of
records) to see if they have a copy of the original citation and if
they do not have the citation then you will not get the medals.
Your best option, in my opinion is to find a military historical
society and ask them about purchasing the medals.
Althiom
>
<jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
<S N I P >
btw Kay, thanks for your response. This leads to another question. My Gr.
Grandmother was meticulous about keeping her husbands stuff and passing it
to my Grandfather. However, he never got these awards/decorations from
her. Anthony died young, at the age of 40 in 1928 from pneumonia. The
website you gave said that the WWI Victory Medal wasn't created until 1919,
although it was awarded to people who served from April 1917. Is it
possible that Anthony never got his medal/button? If not, can I petition
for them at this late date? If he did get them, and they were lost, can I
get replacements?
Thank you very much for your patience.
Yes you can get replacements from the Department of the Army, but be
advised that it may be your children getting the replacements unless
you can provide the citations that awarded the medals as the Army will
have to research (i.e. dig through hundreds/thousands/millions of
records) to see if they have a copy of the original citation and if
they do not have the citation then you will not get the medals.
Your best option, in my opinion is to find a military historical
society and ask them about purchasing the medals.
Althiom
>
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James A. Doemer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
"Althiom" <gbell3@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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I know you are right. It took almost three years before I got the partial
record from NARA in St. Louis that I did get, and unfortunately, I don't
have the original citation either. Thank you for your time and
information.
news:0rrf51pp7fdlunaebefi17jb8s1vqk9vak@4ax.com...
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:27:04 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
S N I P
btw Kay, thanks for your response. This leads to another question. My
Gr.
Grandmother was meticulous about keeping her husbands stuff and passing
it
to my Grandfather. However, he never got these awards/decorations from
her. Anthony died young, at the age of 40 in 1928 from pneumonia. The
website you gave said that the WWI Victory Medal wasn't created until
1919,
although it was awarded to people who served from April 1917. Is it
possible that Anthony never got his medal/button? If not, can I petition
for them at this late date? If he did get them, and they were lost, can
I
get replacements?
Thank you very much for your patience.
Yes you can get replacements from the Department of the Army, but be
advised that it may be your children getting the replacements unless
you can provide the citations that awarded the medals as the Army will
have to research (i.e. dig through hundreds/thousands/millions of
records) to see if they have a copy of the original citation and if
they do not have the citation then you will not get the medals.
Your best option, in my opinion is to find a military historical
society and ask them about purchasing the medals.
Althiom
I know you are right. It took almost three years before I got the partial
record from NARA in St. Louis that I did get, and unfortunately, I don't
have the original citation either. Thank you for your time and
information.
-
Althiom
Re: Attention Military Historians.
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:28:16 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
<jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
There is the possiblity of one other place that lists any
awards/medals he would have gotten and that is his discharge papers.
If you have them you could use them as the authorization and get the
medals that way.
Althiom
<jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
Yes you can get replacements from the Department of the Army, but be
advised that it may be your children getting the replacements unless
you can provide the citations that awarded the medals as the Army will
have to research (i.e. dig through hundreds/thousands/millions of
records) to see if they have a copy of the original citation and if
they do not have the citation then you will not get the medals.
Your best option, in my opinion is to find a military historical
society and ask them about purchasing the medals.
Althiom
I know you are right. It took almost three years before I got the partial
record from NARA in St. Louis that I did get, and unfortunately, I don't
have the original citation either. Thank you for your time and
information.
There is the possiblity of one other place that lists any
awards/medals he would have gotten and that is his discharge papers.
If you have them you could use them as the authorization and get the
medals that way.
Althiom
-
Kay Archer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
"Althiom" <gbell3@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Unfortunately for the OP, her grandfather was discharged a year or two
before the medal was authorised. Although he is eligible.
news:4b0g51dgrej91ads0cntpn0nnmg2l0nosg@4ax.com...
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:28:16 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
Yes you can get replacements from the Department of the Army, but be
advised that it may be your children getting the replacements unless
you can provide the citations that awarded the medals as the Army will
have to research (i.e. dig through hundreds/thousands/millions of
records) to see if they have a copy of the original citation and if
they do not have the citation then you will not get the medals.
Your best option, in my opinion is to find a military historical
society and ask them about purchasing the medals.
Althiom
I know you are right. It took almost three years before I got the
partial
record from NARA in St. Louis that I did get, and unfortunately, I don't
have the original citation either. Thank you for your time and
information.
There is the possiblity of one other place that lists any
awards/medals he would have gotten and that is his discharge papers.
If you have them you could use them as the authorization and get the
medals that way.
Unfortunately for the OP, her grandfather was discharged a year or two
before the medal was authorised. Although he is eligible.
-
James A. Doemer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
Kay Archer <kayhyphenarcher@cableone.net> wrote:
Yeah, that's something I was looking at. He was discharged in 1917, but
the medal wasn't authorized until 1919. Ah well, nobody said that genealogy
was simple. :c)
"Althiom" <gbell3@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4b0g51dgrej91ads0cntpn0nnmg2l0nosg@4ax.com...
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:28:16 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
Yes you can get replacements from the Department of the Army, but
be advised that it may be your children getting the replacements
unless you can provide the citations that awarded the medals as
the Army will have to research (i.e. dig through
hundreds/thousands/millions of records) to see if they have a copy
of the original citation and if they do not have the citation then
you will not get the medals.
Your best option, in my opinion is to find a military historical
society and ask them about purchasing the medals.
Althiom
I know you are right. It took almost three years before I got the
partial record from NARA in St. Louis that I did get, and
unfortunately, I don't have the original citation either. Thank
you for your time and information.
There is the possiblity of one other place that lists any
awards/medals he would have gotten and that is his discharge papers.
If you have them you could use them as the authorization and get the
medals that way.
Unfortunately for the OP, her grandfather was discharged a year or two
before the medal was authorised. Although he is eligible.
Yeah, that's something I was looking at. He was discharged in 1917, but
the medal wasn't authorized until 1919. Ah well, nobody said that genealogy
was simple. :c)
-
James A. Doemer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
Kay Archer <kayhyphenarcher@cableone.net> wrote:
I shot a letter off to the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis
this afternoon giving all the detail and documentation I have and requesting
that the medals be awarded, or reissued if they have already been awarded.
We'll see what happens from that.
"Althiom" <gbell3@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4b0g51dgrej91ads0cntpn0nnmg2l0nosg@4ax.com...
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:28:16 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote:
Yes you can get replacements from the Department of the Army, but
be advised that it may be your children getting the replacements
unless you can provide the citations that awarded the medals as
the Army will have to research (i.e. dig through
hundreds/thousands/millions of records) to see if they have a copy
of the original citation and if they do not have the citation then
you will not get the medals.
Your best option, in my opinion is to find a military historical
society and ask them about purchasing the medals.
Althiom
I know you are right. It took almost three years before I got the
partial record from NARA in St. Louis that I did get, and
unfortunately, I don't have the original citation either. Thank
you for your time and information.
There is the possiblity of one other place that lists any
awards/medals he would have gotten and that is his discharge papers.
If you have them you could use them as the authorization and get the
medals that way.
Unfortunately for the OP, her grandfather was discharged a year or two
before the medal was authorised. Although he is eligible.
I shot a letter off to the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis
this afternoon giving all the detail and documentation I have and requesting
that the medals be awarded, or reissued if they have already been awarded.
We'll see what happens from that.
-
Kay Archer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
"James A. Doemer" <jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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[much snipped]
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[much snipped]
I shot a letter off to the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis
this afternoon giving all the detail and documentation I have and
requesting
that the medals be awarded, or reissued if they have already been awarded.
We'll see what happens from that.
Good luck and thanks for keeping us informed.
-
Chris
Re: Attention Military Historians.
Sad but true, you can buy the medals from E-Bay, with no documentation
needed.
Chris
needed.
Chris
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James A. Doemer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
"Chris" <my_genealogy@comcast.net> wrote in message
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That doesn't seem right.
news:1113181219.973966.77530@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Sad but true, you can buy the medals from E-Bay, with no documentation
needed.
Chris
That doesn't seem right.
-
Jeff
Re: Attention Military Historians.
Where did you get the information from? All efforts for me to look up my
Grandfathers service around that time period have been fruitless.
"James A. Doemer" <jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Grandfathers service around that time period have been fruitless.
"James A. Doemer" <jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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For all of you who are knowledgeable in U.S. Military history, I have
something of a mystery. Recently I sent for my Great Grandfather's,
Anthony J. P. Doemer's, military records. He joined the Michigan
National
Guard on June 19th, 1916 and was discharged on May 8th, 1917. Due to
the
National Defense Act of June 18th, 1916, National Guard Units were called
into federal service and Gr. Grandfather found himself down to Camp
Cotton,
El Paso, Texas serving an essentially uneventful guard duty along the
Mexican Border during The Mexican Border War. He served with the 1st
Michigan Infantry, 31st regiment, company F. For unknown reasons,
Anthony
came home aproximately one month before the 31st was sent back to
Michigan,
and disbanded from federal service. We do know that he received an
honorable discharge.
That's the short history of it. The mystery of it is that when we
received
a partial service record (partial because apparently many if not most of
the
military records from that time were lost in a fire), it confirmed his
dates
of service, but under the "Decorations and Awards" section it had the
following listed:
1. WW I Victory Button (Bronze).
2. WW I Victory Medal w/Battle Clasps For Defensive Sector.
My question is: How could he have been awarded this button and medal
without having served in WW I?
-
James A. Doemer
Re: Attention Military Historians.
As was mine for a long time because I had originally thought that he was in
the regular Army and I was told that his records were destroyed in the fire.
Then I found out, almost by accident, that he had originally enlisted into
the Michigan National Guard. So I sent to the Michigan National Guard and
they had his records. Then, about a month ago or so, the Records place in
St. Louis sent me a partial record. Which didn't include very much. As far
as knowing where he served and all of that, that is information I gleaned
from cards & letters he sent home while he was in Texas. The guy loved to
write home it seems. There's a post card or a letter for almost every day
he was away.
Jeff <tankerHC@yahoo.com> wrote:
the regular Army and I was told that his records were destroyed in the fire.
Then I found out, almost by accident, that he had originally enlisted into
the Michigan National Guard. So I sent to the Michigan National Guard and
they had his records. Then, about a month ago or so, the Records place in
St. Louis sent me a partial record. Which didn't include very much. As far
as knowing where he served and all of that, that is information I gleaned
from cards & letters he sent home while he was in Texas. The guy loved to
write home it seems. There's a post card or a letter for almost every day
he was away.
Jeff <tankerHC@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where did you get the information from? All efforts for me to look up
my Grandfathers service around that time period have been fruitless.
"James A. Doemer" <jdjunkmail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Y0Q5e.3077$An2.2578@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
For all of you who are knowledgeable in U.S. Military history, I have
something of a mystery. Recently I sent for my Great Grandfather's,
Anthony J. P. Doemer's, military records. He joined the Michigan
National
Guard on June 19th, 1916 and was discharged on May 8th, 1917. Due
to the
National Defense Act of June 18th, 1916, National Guard Units were
called into federal service and Gr. Grandfather found himself down
to Camp Cotton,
El Paso, Texas serving an essentially uneventful guard duty along the
Mexican Border during The Mexican Border War. He served with the 1st
Michigan Infantry, 31st regiment, company F. For unknown reasons,
Anthony
came home aproximately one month before the 31st was sent back to
Michigan,
and disbanded from federal service. We do know that he received an
honorable discharge.
That's the short history of it. The mystery of it is that when we
received
a partial service record (partial because apparently many if not
most of the
military records from that time were lost in a fire), it confirmed
his dates
of service, but under the "Decorations and Awards" section it had the
following listed:
1. WW I Victory Button (Bronze).
2. WW I Victory Medal w/Battle Clasps For Defensive Sector.
My question is: How could he have been awarded this button and medal
without having served in WW I?
-
ecunningham
Re: Attention Military Historians.
Jeff wrote:
Group: I have noted various responses to these questions, but don't
recall seeing the following.
1. Most (if not all US states) have Departments of Military & Veterans
Affairs. Ask your state if they have any records and where they are
stored.
2. WWI in both US and Great Britain had much attention paid to serving
men and their return. In the US, even to the extent of lists of men
and when and where they were returning. Check local newspapers for the
time period.
Those who did not return often had large front page bios.
3. In Great Britain WWI, civilian nurses working in military hospitals
were considered part of military and their records are in the military
records lists. Mine signed a year's contract and never left England,
but her records were in WWI records lists.
4. WWII - Discharged military were told to register their DD-214 at
their county clerk's office. I have some with clerk's seal and entry
book numbers.
ecunningham@att.net
Where did you get the information from? All efforts for me to look up my
Grandfathers service around that time period have been fruitless.
Group: I have noted various responses to these questions, but don't
recall seeing the following.
1. Most (if not all US states) have Departments of Military & Veterans
Affairs. Ask your state if they have any records and where they are
stored.
2. WWI in both US and Great Britain had much attention paid to serving
men and their return. In the US, even to the extent of lists of men
and when and where they were returning. Check local newspapers for the
time period.
Those who did not return often had large front page bios.
3. In Great Britain WWI, civilian nurses working in military hospitals
were considered part of military and their records are in the military
records lists. Mine signed a year's contract and never left England,
but her records were in WWI records lists.
4. WWII - Discharged military were told to register their DD-214 at
their county clerk's office. I have some with clerk's seal and entry
book numbers.
ecunningham@att.net