Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

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Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 16 feb 2005 22:35:43

I'm trying to find a family of Robers in Cincinnati OH for the
1850/1860/1870/1880 census but they're eluding me.

This is not the family of B.H. Robers, who I suspect may be related to my
branch.

(Mary) Elizabeth Robers (born in June 1858 in Cincinnati) was my great-
great-grandmother. Her sisters included Mary Robers (Sept. 1850) and
Katherine Robers (Nov. 1860).

Elizabeth (as Lizzie), Katherine (as Kate) and Mary all appear in an 1881
Cincinnati directory. In an 1891 directory Kate and Mary are there;
Elizabeth had married my great-great-grandfather Bernard A. Bruns by 1882
and they lived in Cincinnati and then Chicago.

Katherine and Mary are living together in Ohio in 1900; Katherine lives
with her sister and brother-in-law by 1910 and 1920 in Illinois.

I can't seem to locate the girls or their parents prior to 1881, though
they're likely to be in Cincinnati. The Robers family usually worked as
furniture or cabinet makers. Their parents would have been born in
Germany, probably Vreden, and emigrated sometime in the 1840s.

The Ohio Robers may be related to some Wisconsin Robers though I haven't
seen any direct evidence of it yet.

I've searched under possible misspellings (Robbers, Rober, Robber,
Roeber, Roberts, etc.) and can't seem to turn up anything related to my
Robers. Does anyone have other suggestions at this point?

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singhals

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av singhals » 16 feb 2005 23:23:25

saki wrote:

I'm trying to find a family of Robers in Cincinnati OH for the
1850/1860/1870/1880 census but they're eluding me.

This is not the family of B.H. Robers, who I suspect may be related to my
branch.

(Mary) Elizabeth Robers (born in June 1858 in Cincinnati) was my great-
great-grandmother. Her sisters included Mary Robers (Sept. 1850) and
Katherine Robers (Nov. 1860).

Elizabeth (as Lizzie), Katherine (as Kate) and Mary all appear in an 1881
Cincinnati directory. In an 1891 directory Kate and Mary are there;
Elizabeth had married my great-great-grandfather Bernard A. Bruns by 1882
and they lived in Cincinnati and then Chicago.

Katherine and Mary are living together in Ohio in 1900; Katherine lives
with her sister and brother-in-law by 1910 and 1920 in Illinois.

I can't seem to locate the girls or their parents prior to 1881, though
they're likely to be in Cincinnati. The Robers family usually worked as
furniture or cabinet makers. Their parents would have been born in
Germany, probably Vreden, and emigrated sometime in the 1840s.

The Ohio Robers may be related to some Wisconsin Robers though I haven't
seen any direct evidence of it yet.

I've searched under possible misspellings (Robbers, Rober, Robber,
Roeber, Roberts, etc.) and can't seem to turn up anything related to my
Robers. Does anyone have other suggestions at this point?

I feel your pain. (g) If anyone sees Lydia
Harmison/Harmanson/Harrison/Hammerson in 1850 and she's *NOT* in
Cincinnati, please shout.

That said, did you try Rowbers, Rowbars, Roebars etc etc. Did you try
the 1880-on-line census index (since you know where they lived, you
should be able to rule-out fairly easily). Did you try a
show-me-everyone-born-in-Germany and living-in-Cincy? There'll be a
fair number of frogs to kiss, but your prince should be there sommers. (g)

Did you try the USGenWeb pages for Cincy? or boards.ancestry.com (free)
to see if there's a Robers or a Cincinnati board?

Cheryl

saki

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 16 feb 2005 23:54:55

singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:C8-dnYRye4BAWo7fRVn-tw@rcn.net:

I feel your pain. (g) If anyone sees Lydia
Harmison/Harmanson/Harrison/Hammerson in 1850 and she's *NOT* in
Cincinnati, please shout.

You bet!

That said, did you try Rowbers, Rowbars, Roebars etc etc.

Yes, all the variants I can imagine. I'm sure I missed some.

Did you try
the 1880-on-line census index (since you know where they lived, you
should be able to rule-out fairly easily).

Yes, no hits, alas.

Did you try a
show-me-everyone-born-in-Germany and living-in-Cincy? There'll be a
fair number of frogs to kiss, but your prince should be there sommers.
(g)

I'll keep trying with this. It's a good suggestion. No dice yet but with
persistence....

Did you try the USGenWeb pages for Cincy? or boards.ancestry.com
(free) to see if there's a Robers or a Cincinnati board?

Actually found some Robers boards and they have helpful information about
the Robers' families and their emigration, just no hits for my exact
people yet.

Many thanks!

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MisNomer

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av MisNomer » 17 feb 2005 01:03:10

Sometimes one has to look up by first name, as transcribers sometimes get the
name completely wrong... I found my "mary" in cinncinnati that way.

take care
Liz



On 16 Feb 2005 21:35:43 GMT, saki <saki@ucla.edu> wrote:

I'm trying to find a family of Robers in Cincinnati OH for the
1850/1860/1870/1880 census but they're eluding me.

This is not the family of B.H. Robers, who I suspect may be related to my
branch.

(Mary) Elizabeth Robers (born in June 1858 in Cincinnati) was my great-
great-grandmother. Her sisters included Mary Robers (Sept. 1850) and
Katherine Robers (Nov. 1860).

Elizabeth (as Lizzie), Katherine (as Kate) and Mary all appear in an 1881
Cincinnati directory. In an 1891 directory Kate and Mary are there;
Elizabeth had married my great-great-grandfather Bernard A. Bruns by 1882
and they lived in Cincinnati and then Chicago.

Katherine and Mary are living together in Ohio in 1900; Katherine lives
with her sister and brother-in-law by 1910 and 1920 in Illinois.

I can't seem to locate the girls or their parents prior to 1881, though
they're likely to be in Cincinnati. The Robers family usually worked as
furniture or cabinet makers. Their parents would have been born in
Germany, probably Vreden, and emigrated sometime in the 1840s.

The Ohio Robers may be related to some Wisconsin Robers though I haven't
seen any direct evidence of it yet.

I've searched under possible misspellings (Robbers, Rober, Robber,
Roeber, Roberts, etc.) and can't seem to turn up anything related to my
Robers. Does anyone have other suggestions at this point?

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saki@ucla.edu

singhals

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av singhals » 17 feb 2005 21:19:34

Good point. And of course moving the fingers of one hand one key either
way can turn up some interesting folks as well. There're a few
gentlemen named kpjm and at least one dstsj. (g)

And shove an "h" after the R -- Rhob...

And sometimes, no matter what you try, they're not there.

Cheryl



MisNomer wrote:

Sometimes one has to look up by first name, as transcribers sometimes get the
name completely wrong... I found my "mary" in cinncinnati that way.

take care
Liz



On 16 Feb 2005 21:35:43 GMT, saki <saki@ucla.edu> wrote:


I'm trying to find a family of Robers in Cincinnati OH for the
1850/1860/1870/1880 census but they're eluding me.

This is not the family of B.H. Robers, who I suspect may be related to my
branch.

(Mary) Elizabeth Robers (born in June 1858 in Cincinnati) was my great-
great-grandmother. Her sisters included Mary Robers (Sept. 1850) and
Katherine Robers (Nov. 1860).

Elizabeth (as Lizzie), Katherine (as Kate) and Mary all appear in an 1881
Cincinnati directory. In an 1891 directory Kate and Mary are there;
Elizabeth had married my great-great-grandfather Bernard A. Bruns by 1882
and they lived in Cincinnati and then Chicago.

Katherine and Mary are living together in Ohio in 1900; Katherine lives
with her sister and brother-in-law by 1910 and 1920 in Illinois.

I can't seem to locate the girls or their parents prior to 1881, though
they're likely to be in Cincinnati. The Robers family usually worked as
furniture or cabinet makers. Their parents would have been born in
Germany, probably Vreden, and emigrated sometime in the 1840s.

The Ohio Robers may be related to some Wisconsin Robers though I haven't
seen any direct evidence of it yet.

I've searched under possible misspellings (Robbers, Rober, Robber,
Roeber, Roberts, etc.) and can't seem to turn up anything related to my
Robers. Does anyone have other suggestions at this point?

----
saki@ucla.edu


saki

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 17 feb 2005 21:38:41

singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote in
news:nPednXOUn4rLYYnfRVn-qA@rcn.net:

Good point. And of course moving the fingers of one hand one key
either way can turn up some interesting folks as well. There're a few
gentlemen named kpjm and at least one dstsj. (g)

And shove an "h" after the R -- Rhob...

I'll give that a try, thanks.

And sometimes, no matter what you try, they're not there.

I can accept that for one census year...but they should be in at least
one of those four censuses for this timeframe.

It's tempting to surmise information from the 1881 Cincinnati directory,
which offers some of my Robers when searched at ancestry.com. You see not
only Mary, Elizabeth and Katherine but a Theresa Robers (a widow of a
John Robers) and John C. Robers as well, all at the same address
apparently. Is this most of the family unit? Without finding them in a
census I can't really say.

They lived on an Emming Street in Cincinnati. If I knew what ward that
was located in at the time I'd be willing to search the 1880 census for
that streetname. Perhaps I'd find them there.

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ecunningham

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av ecunningham » 18 feb 2005 01:30:48

saki wrote:

It's tempting to surmise information from the 1881 Cincinnati directory,
which offers some of my Robers when searched at ancestry.com. You see not
only Mary, Elizabeth and Katherine but a Theresa Robers (a widow of a
John Robers) and John C. Robers as well, all at the same address
apparently. Is this most of the family unit? Without finding them in a
census I can't really say.

They lived on an Emming Street in Cincinnati. If I knew what ward that
was located in at the time I'd be willing to search the 1880 census for
that streetname. Perhaps I'd find them there.

saki@ucla.edu: Would you be happy with the John ROBBAS family on Page
93B/1880 census?
ecunningham@att.net

MikeS

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av MikeS » 18 feb 2005 03:09:54

Great get. I think you just made saki a happy dude!

Mike

"ecunningham" <ecunningham@att.net> wrote in message
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saki wrote:

It's tempting to surmise information from the 1881 Cincinnati directory,
which offers some of my Robers when searched at ancestry.com. You see not
only Mary, Elizabeth and Katherine but a Theresa Robers (a widow of a
John Robers) and John C. Robers as well, all at the same address
apparently. Is this most of the family unit? Without finding them in a
census I can't really say.

They lived on an Emming Street in Cincinnati. If I knew what ward that
was located in at the time I'd be willing to search the 1880 census for
that streetname. Perhaps I'd find them there.

saki@ucla.edu: Would you be happy with the John ROBBAS family on Page
93B/1880 census?
ecunningham@att.net

MikeS

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av MikeS » 18 feb 2005 03:22:38

"ecunningham" <ecunningham@att.net> wrote in message
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saki wrote:
saki@ucla.edu: Would you be happy with the John ROBBAS family on Page
93B/1880 census?
ecunningham@att.net

You can find Mary and sister Kate here in 1900:

1900 United States Federal Census
---------------------------------------------------------------
Name: Kate Robers
Home in 1900: Cincinnati Ward 28, Hamilton, Ohio
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: 1861
Birthplace: Ohio
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Sister
Occupation: View Image
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Cincinnati Ward 28, Hamilton,
Ohio; Roll: T623 1280; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 239.

Mike

Bob Melson

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av Bob Melson » 18 feb 2005 03:34:12

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:22:38 +0000, MikeS wrote:

"ecunningham" <ecunningham@att.net> wrote in message
news:421536AA.F9F8C31@att.net...
saki wrote:
saki@ucla.edu: Would you be happy with the John ROBBAS family on Page
93B/1880 census?
ecunningham@att.net

You can find Mary and sister Kate here in 1900:

1900 United States Federal Census
--------------------------------------------------------------- Name:
Kate Robers
Home in 1900: Cincinnati Ward 28, Hamilton, Ohio Age: 39
Estimated birth year: 1861
Birthplace: Ohio
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Sister Occupation: View Image
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Cincinnati Ward 28, Hamilton,
Ohio; Roll: T623 1280; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 239.

Mike

Outta sight, guys! Just checked the LDS Family Search site and what
you've found seems to be confirmed there in the 1880 census. Saki's bound
to be overjoyed.

Bob


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saki

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 18 feb 2005 05:07:20

ecunningham <ecunningham@att.net> wrote in
news:421536AA.F9F8C31@att.net:

saki wrote:

It's tempting to surmise information from the 1881 Cincinnati
directory, which offers some of my Robers when searched at
ancestry.com. You see not only Mary, Elizabeth and Katherine but a
Theresa Robers (a widow of a John Robers) and John C. Robers as well,
all at the same address apparently. Is this most of the family unit?
Without finding them in a census I can't really say.

They lived on an Emming Street in Cincinnati. If I knew what ward
that was located in at the time I'd be willing to search the 1880
census for that streetname. Perhaps I'd find them there.

saki@ucla.edu: Would you be happy with the John ROBBAS family on Page
93B/1880 census?

I'd be overjoyed. Thanks so much!

How in blazes did Robers change to Robbas?

Oh well, I guess I shouldn't ask....

I'm very grateful to you folks!

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saki@ucla.edu

saki

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 18 feb 2005 05:10:12

"MikeS" <archangel@heaven.com> wrote in
news:OjcRd.12828$911.11745@fe2.texas.rr.com:

"ecunningham" <ecunningham@att.net> wrote in message
news:421536AA.F9F8C31@att.net...
saki wrote:
saki@ucla.edu: Would you be happy with the John ROBBAS family on Page
93B/1880 census?
ecunningham@att.net

You can find Mary and sister Kate here in 1900:

1900 United States Federal Census
---------------------------------------------------------------
Name: Kate Robers

Yes, thanks, I'd already run across this.

Mary stayed in Cincinnati and never married. Elizabeth married in 1882 and
went to Chicago with her husband Bernard Bruns, my great grandfather. Kate
moved in with them around 1910. When my great-grandmother Elizabeth died,
Kate married Bernard. I guess it was nice to keep it all in the family. :-)

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saki

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 18 feb 2005 05:11:19

Bob Melson <melsonr@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:pan.2005.02.18.02.34.10.272646@earthlink.net:

Outta sight, guys! Just checked the LDS Family Search site and what
you've found seems to be confirmed there in the 1880 census. Saki's
bound to be overjoyed.

Absolutely. This is the discovery of new family members for me.

Thanks to all who responded!

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saki@ucla.edu

Tara

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av Tara » 18 feb 2005 16:05:27

There's heck of a lot of changing with this name. Difficult to figure out
what it actually was originally. Here's 2 more census years if you need
them.

Name: John Rabes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Age in 1870: 63
Birthplace: Prussia
Home in 1870: Cincinnati Ward 12, Hamilton, Ohio
Roll: M593_1213
Page: 53
Image: 106
Year: 1870

Name: Theressa Robbins
Age in 1860: 38
Birthplace: Preußen
Home in 1860: Cincinnati Ward 12, Hamilton, Ohio
Gender: Female
Roll: M653_975
Page: 129
Year: 1860
Head of Household: John Robbins

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<snip>
How in blazes did Robers change to Robbas?

Oh well, I guess I shouldn't ask....

I'm very grateful to you folks!

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Gjest

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av Gjest » 18 feb 2005 21:34:23

How in blazes did Robers change to Robbas?

Though I've been reading it as "ROE-bers," did they pronounce it
"ROB-uhs" which phonetically is the same as ROBBAS????

tootncmon

saki

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 18 feb 2005 22:07:48

tootncmon@webtv.net wrote in news:6598-4216514F-126@storefull-
3251.bay.webtv.net:

How in blazes did Robers change to Robbas?

Though I've been reading it as "ROE-bers," did they pronounce it
"ROB-uhs" which phonetically is the same as ROBBAS????

I suspect this might have been due to the German accents of the head of
household and his wife, so I think you're right.

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saki

Re: Robers - Cincinnati OH 1850-1880

Legg inn av saki » 18 feb 2005 22:14:57

"Tara" <NOtnlarkinSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:XunRd.188$MY6.63@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

There's heck of a lot of changing with this name. Difficult to figure
out what it actually was originally.

I think it really was Robers, or Röbers (with the umlaut). There are lots
of Robers families in Westphalia, where the other Ohio Robers came from.

I also located a marriage record for a John Robers and Theresia [sic]
Schold in Hamilton County, Ohio for January 9, 1849. Until I see film of
it I won't know whether it's my John and Theresa but it seems a likely
candidate, particularly since their first child was born in 1850.

Here's 2 more census years if you
need them.

Name: John Rabes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Age in 1870: 63
Birthplace: Prussia
Home in 1870: Cincinnati Ward 12, Hamilton, Ohio
Roll: M593_1213
Page: 53
Image: 106
Year: 1870

Name: Theressa Robbins
Age in 1860: 38
Birthplace: Preußen
Home in 1860: Cincinnati Ward 12, Hamilton, Ohio
Gender: Female
Roll: M653_975
Page: 129
Year: 1860
Head of Household: John Robbins

These were very helpful, thanks. More funny name changes but these are
clearly the same Robers. Until I'd seen these records I didn't realize
that my great-grandmother Elizabeth was a twin.

Your help is much appreciated!

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saki@ucla.edu

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