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Legg inn av The Wanderer » 04 feb 2005 07:11:53

So far you'se guys have been a Godsend. As I think of new questions to
verify info you're my only resource. I'm looking for my GGF, a John McGrath.
According to the 1920 census HE said he was born in 1872 and came here (USA)
to Massachussetts in 1873 (I assume he came with his parents). With some
help here, I have the 1880 census and found what believe is him but there it
say's his age was 10. (There could be reasons for that: home birth, lack of
records, lying about age to work younger, etc.) So, what I am asking for is
a John McGrath born between 1870 and 1872, coming to Massachussetts in
1871-1873. HE said in 1920 that he was born in Ireland, but the 1880 census
say's England. So.... I know this is a stretch. Any info is enourmously
appreciated. This might confirm that the man in the 1920 is the same as the
1880, and would confirm my GGGP's names. TIA.

Patscga

Re: Ships Passenger Lists

Legg inn av Patscga » 05 feb 2005 15:43:40

HE said in 1920 that he was born in Ireland, but the 1880 census
say's England.
I have several ancestors born in Ireland who apparently wanted to make clear

they were of English descent so in Place of Birth they had entered "Ireland -
English". In 1880 America the Irish were not tolerated well but the English
were. Some businesses looking for workers would hang out a sign saying "Help
Wanted - No Irish Need Apply". By 1920 it had become okay to be Irish.
It is not unlikely your ancestor chose to be English in 1880, then "came out"
in 1920.
Pat

CWatters

Re: Ships Passenger Lists

Legg inn av CWatters » 05 feb 2005 16:53:40

"The Wanderer" <rosieonmychest@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:JmEMd.105286$kq2.65152@twister.nyc.rr.com...
So far you'se guys have been a Godsend. As I think of new questions to
verify info you're my only resource. I'm looking for my GGF, a John
McGrath.
According to the 1920 census HE said he was born in 1872 and came here
(USA)
to Massachussetts in 1873

Is this your web site? If not it might be of interest...

http://www.financlan.net/finans_in_america.htm

Quote: On May 26, 1869, Thomas and Ellen were blessed with the birth of
their first child, Mary Ellen Finan, the first Finan to be born on American
soil. Mary would one day grow up and marry John McGrath and settle in
Fitchburg, Massachusetts, where many of the McGrath family remain to this
day. End

Some list are online.. Perhaps....
http://www.immigrantships.net/v6/1800v6 ... 20_01.html

SS Atlantic
Departed Liverpool March 20, 1873
Via Queenstown, Ireland
Bound for New York
Wrecked near Halifax, Nova Scotia April 1, 1873

STEERAGE PASSENGERS SAVED
149 John McGrath NYT03041873 NYT04041873 Book
150 Patrick McGrath NYT03041873 NYT04041873 NYT07041873 Book brother
of Thomas Magrath, No. ?45 8th Avenue
151 James McGrath NYT03041873 NYT04041873 NYT07041873 Book brother of
Michael McGrath, No. 74 Alien Street

The Wanderer

Re: Ships Passenger Lists

Legg inn av The Wanderer » 05 feb 2005 19:54:19

I figured something along those lines. As well, there was no great self
estem in calling yourself English if, indeed, you were from the Emerlad
Isle.

--
Buddy
from Brooklyn

http://geocities.com/thewanderer315/
http://www.tinyd.net/70buddy.html
http://www.johnlennon.it/galleria_fotografica.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/ny514/

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."
Thomas Paine

"No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason
for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort
to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson

"First make sure you're right, then go ahead."
Davy Crockett

" There are certain sections in New York I wouldn't advise you to try to
invade."
Humphrey Bogart's line -as Rick- to Nazi officer in "Casablanca"

"The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all
other ties, any other history, and himself adopts the vesture of his adopted
land."
James Baldwin

"Patscga" <patscga@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050205094340.11120.00000357@mb-m18.aol.com...
HE said in 1920 that he was born in Ireland, but the 1880 census
say's England.
I have several ancestors born in Ireland who apparently wanted to make
clear
they were of English descent so in Place of Birth they had entered
"Ireland -
English". In 1880 America the Irish were not tolerated well but the
English
were. Some businesses looking for workers would hang out a sign saying
"Help
Wanted - No Irish Need Apply". By 1920 it had become okay to be Irish.
It is not unlikely your ancestor chose to be English in 1880, then "came
out"
in 1920.
Pat

The Wanderer

Re: Ships Passenger Lists

Legg inn av The Wanderer » 05 feb 2005 19:58:06

Thanks. But no such drama in my family's backround. The name McGrath is so
common amongst immigrants. None of my family (as far as I know) came through
Canada (except my wife).

--
Buddy
from Brooklyn

http://geocities.com/thewanderer315/
http://www.tinyd.net/70buddy.html
http://www.johnlennon.it/galleria_fotografica.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/ny514/

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."
Thomas Paine

"No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason
for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort
to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson

"First make sure you're right, then go ahead."
Davy Crockett

" There are certain sections in New York I wouldn't advise you to try to
invade."
Humphrey Bogart's line -as Rick- to Nazi officer in "Casablanca"

"The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all
other ties, any other history, and himself adopts the vesture of his adopted
land."
James Baldwin

"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
news:8_5Nd.4063$Gn5.303144@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
"The Wanderer" <rosieonmychest@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:JmEMd.105286$kq2.65152@twister.nyc.rr.com...
So far you'se guys have been a Godsend. As I think of new questions to
verify info you're my only resource. I'm looking for my GGF, a John
McGrath.
According to the 1920 census HE said he was born in 1872 and came here
(USA)
to Massachussetts in 1873

Is this your web site? If not it might be of interest...

http://www.financlan.net/finans_in_america.htm

Quote: On May 26, 1869, Thomas and Ellen were blessed with the birth of
their first child, Mary Ellen Finan, the first Finan to be born on
American
soil. Mary would one day grow up and marry John McGrath and settle in
Fitchburg, Massachusetts, where many of the McGrath family remain to this
day. End

Some list are online.. Perhaps....
http://www.immigrantships.net/v6/1800v6 ... 20_01.html

SS Atlantic
Departed Liverpool March 20, 1873
Via Queenstown, Ireland
Bound for New York
Wrecked near Halifax, Nova Scotia April 1, 1873

STEERAGE PASSENGERS SAVED
149 John McGrath NYT03041873 NYT04041873 Book
150 Patrick McGrath NYT03041873 NYT04041873 NYT07041873 Book brother
of Thomas Magrath, No. ?45 8th Avenue
151 James McGrath NYT03041873 NYT04041873 NYT07041873 Book brother
of
Michael McGrath, No. 74 Alien Street





The Wanderer

Re: Ships Passenger Lists

Legg inn av The Wanderer » 06 feb 2005 02:10:33

Sorry, I typed to quickly.

--
Buddy
from Brooklyn

http://geocities.com/thewanderer315/
http://www.tinyd.net/70buddy.html
http://www.johnlennon.it/galleria_fotografica.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/ny514/

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."
Thomas Paine

"No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason
for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort
to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson

"First make sure you're right, then go ahead."
Davy Crockett

" There are certain sections in New York I wouldn't advise you to try to
invade."
Humphrey Bogart's line -as Rick- to Nazi officer in "Casablanca"

"The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all
other ties, any other history, and himself adopts the vesture of his adopted
land."
James Baldwin

"The Wanderer" <rosieonmychest@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:vD8Nd.107016$kq2.50734@twister.nyc.rr.com...
I figured something along those lines. As well, there was no great self
estem in calling yourself English if, indeed, you were from the Emerlad
Isle.

--
Buddy
from Brooklyn

http://geocities.com/thewanderer315/
http://www.tinyd.net/70buddy.html
http://www.johnlennon.it/galleria_fotografica.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/ny514/

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."
Thomas Paine

"No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason
for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is as a last
resort
to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson

"First make sure you're right, then go ahead."
Davy Crockett

" There are certain sections in New York I wouldn't advise you to try to
invade."
Humphrey Bogart's line -as Rick- to Nazi officer in "Casablanca"

"The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects
all
other ties, any other history, and himself adopts the vesture of his
adopted
land."
James Baldwin

"Patscga" <patscga@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050205094340.11120.00000357@mb-m18.aol.com...
HE said in 1920 that he was born in Ireland, but the 1880 census
say's England.
I have several ancestors born in Ireland who apparently wanted to make
clear
they were of English descent so in Place of Birth they had entered
"Ireland -
English". In 1880 America the Irish were not tolerated well but the
English
were. Some businesses looking for workers would hang out a sign saying
"Help
Wanted - No Irish Need Apply". By 1920 it had become okay to be Irish.
It is not unlikely your ancestor chose to be English in 1880, then "came
out"
in 1920.
Pat


joe

Re: Ships Passenger Lists

Legg inn av joe » 06 feb 2005 04:40:41

Hello,
If he came into Boston, you can find a research guide that may be of
help to you at...

Finding Boston Passenger Lists 1820-1943
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/boston.html

Good luck with your search.

Regards,
Joe

The Wanderer wrote:
So far you'se guys have been a Godsend. As I think of new questions to
verify info you're my only resource. I'm looking for my GGF, a John McGrath.
According to the 1920 census HE said he was born in 1872 and came here (USA)
to Massachussetts in 1873 (I assume he came with his parents). With some
help here, I have the 1880 census and found what believe is him but there it
say's his age was 10. (There could be reasons for that: home birth, lack of
records, lying about age to work younger, etc.) So, what I am asking for is
a John McGrath born between 1870 and 1872, coming to Massachussetts in
1871-1873. HE said in 1920 that he was born in Ireland, but the 1880 census
say's England. So.... I know this is a stretch. Any info is enourmously
appreciated. This might confirm that the man in the 1920 is the same as the
1880, and would confirm my GGGP's names. TIA.

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